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"I will laugh in the face of shallow depth of field; I will harness all available light with super-fast aperture lenses; I will handhold my 200/1.8 wide open and smile." --Anonymous unemployed concert photographer

Hehe. I'd forgotten about this one.

From http://www.photo.net/concerts/mirarchi/concer_2.htm (a good article on concert photography)

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The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
 
"I will laugh in the face of shallow depth of field; I will harness
all available light with super-fast aperture lenses; I will
handhold my 200/1.8 wide open and smile." --Anonymous unemployed
concert photographer

Hehe. I'd forgotten about this one.
Thats pretty funny, I've just been reading up on the Wilkinsons, I'd looked at some of your pictures before and never really had the time to look into the group themselves, as they are virtually unknown in the UK. (In popular terms anyway)

So I've just been reading about them and realised that they had not been going long.. This got me thinking before you started trying to get photos at concerts, were you into photography and did you have the big L lens disease? I'm not being funny I'm just curious if you were into photography big time before the advent of digital and your concert photgraphy. If not you've become very knowlegable in a short space of time, which is very impressive.

David

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My Gallery: http://photogallery.davideaves.co.uk
 
I was familiar with cameras from earlier in life (had a Minolta SRT-101, didn't get a lot of use). But, you can blame the Wilkinsons for my current interest in photography.

I went to see them at a BlockBuster Video (just the three of them, and Steve's guitar, 2 tiny speakers, and about 40 people) when they went on a little promo-tour of their first album release. I had just gotten an el-cheapo digital camera at the time (Aug, 1998) -- $800 and I think it did 640x480. LOL.

We went to see them a few more times, and the first pictures we really got of them was in Corpus Christi in 1999. That was with a fixed 35mm Olympus Stylus.

After that experience (front row), I wanted something with a longer range to it, but also something where the flash would reach out more than 10 feet. That let me to my Olympus IS-3 + accessories, currently on Ebay (shameless plug -- http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3333&item=2911094439&rd=1 ).

In January of 2000, I went on a cruise with them. On the cruise, there was no flash allowed during the performances (though most didn't pay attention to that). After I got back home, I realized that the IS-3 (f/5.6 max aperture) wasn't going to cut it without flash, and that I was beginning to really hate flash (red eye, didn't look like the actual concert lighting, etc), and that I needed something better.

I dropped by a Ritz store in the mall, and saw Nikon's 80-200/2.8 ASW and an F-1. Wow -- no noise on the AF, and a FAST lens. I also saw the D1 at that time. Thought "what kind of fool would spend $5,000 on a digital SLR if he could get the film body and the fast zoom for less money" -- ROFLMAO.

Did a lot of reading, and soon settled on the Canon system and the EOS-3. Got the 70-200/2.8 and 28-70/2.8, 1.4x TC, and I think the 550-EX flash (just in case).

Spent countless hours scanning negatives on my HPS20xi negative scanner. Got addicted to message boards and IM while waiting for the stupid things to scan, etc.

In November of 2000, I saw the D30, and KNEW that I had to have one. Even if it didn't focus as well as an EOS-3 (hey, it couldn't be THAT bad, right? -- rofl), it would be SO much better than scanning roll after roll (and it was).

In March of 2003, the 1D had finally become available to mere mortals, and the banding issues were solved, so I took the plunge.

In the meantime, have added WAY too many lenses, accessories, etc. to my system.

One day, I'm gonna send them a HUGE bill for all my stuff, I swear. LOL.

I'll just say it's payment for all the pictures I gave them over the years. Yes, I've given them about a half-dozen 8x10's (framed), a 20x30 canvas BW print (that hangs over their mantle), and 25 lbs (I'm not kidding) in two HUGE photo albums of all the 4x6's I took with film.
So I've just been reading about them and realised that they had not
been going long.. This got me thinking before you started trying to
get photos at concerts, were you into photography and did you have
the big L lens disease? I'm not being funny I'm just curious if you
were into photography big time before the advent of digital and
your concert photgraphy. If not you've become very knowlegable in a
short space of time, which is very impressive.
--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
 
I'll just say it's payment for all the pictures I gave them over
the years. Yes, I've given them about a half-dozen 8x10's
(framed), a 20x30 canvas BW print (that hangs over their mantle),
and 25 lbs (I'm not kidding) in two HUGE photo albums of all the
4x6's I took with film.
Hi David

Thanks for the detailed history, very interesting to see the evolution.

Its great that you have been able to give them the photos, I'm sure they really appreciate that. I know what you mean about masses of film and stuff. Back in 2000-2001 my interest in photography boomed with a Pentax P&S camera. Coupled with spending half my time in a beautiful city, I was going through film like it was going out of fashion (Hmmm could be some truth in that :o) ) which was costing a fortune. Having been monitoring digital cameras quite a lot, I finally got to the stage in early 2001 where I found a camera I liked and met my needs, with at the time what I saw as excellent quality. Since then I have learnt a lot about photography with my camera (Canon Pro 90). I've just worked out now that my costs per photo are much less than film now, based on my orginal purchase.

The trouble is now I am hanging around in the Canon SLR forum too much, researching lens and eagerly awaiting what comes out in March. Oh Dear!

Although I really like my Pro 90 I am longing for lower noise photos and higher ISOs as well as the increased quality generally. (Though my Pro beats my P&S film for quality I have some awesome prints) I'll still use the Pro quite a bit to start with as I can't afford a big lens to begin with, it will be good for a smaller camera too at times, with its very flexible IS lens.

Thanks again for the detail

David
My Gallery: http://photogallery.davideaves.co.uk
 
The digital SLR's are only gonna get cheaper (and better).

I've recommended the Olympus E-10/20 (similar to your camera) to quite a few folks who just didn't want to spend "the big bucks" for a digltal camera, but wanted something better than the normal point/n/shoot.

They're all quite happy with them.

I know what you mean about the DPR forum. LOL. It's addicting. But it's so easy to learn about things on forums like this (once you filter out the complete BS, that is).

Oh, not only is my canvas print hanging over their mantle (or it was, they took it down for fear of damage when they started using the fireplace during the winter), but they actually had all my pictures (in the albums) out on the coffee table at one time. Hehe. How do I know? Their grandma asked me once about the pictures, and I jokingly said something about "hope their coffee table is stout enough to hold them", and she replied that they were, indeed, on the coffee table.

I predict that Canon will announce a very nice digital SLR at a phenomenal price in a few weeks.
Thanks for the detailed history, very interesting to see the
evolution.

Its great that you have been able to give them the photos, I'm sure
they really appreciate that. I know what you mean about masses of
film and stuff. Back in 2000-2001 my interest in photography boomed
with a Pentax P&S camera. Coupled with spending half my time in a
beautiful city, I was going through film like it was going out of
fashion (Hmmm could be some truth in that :o) ) which was costing
a fortune. Having been monitoring digital cameras quite a lot, I
finally got to the stage in early 2001 where I found a camera I
liked and met my needs, with at the time what I saw as excellent
quality. Since then I have learnt a lot about photography with my
camera (Canon Pro 90). I've just worked out now that my costs per
photo are much less than film now, based on my orginal purchase.

The trouble is now I am hanging around in the Canon SLR forum too
much, researching lens and eagerly awaiting what comes out in
March. Oh Dear!
Although I really like my Pro 90 I am longing for lower noise
photos and higher ISOs as well as the increased quality generally.
(Though my Pro beats my P&S film for quality I have some awesome
prints) I'll still use the Pro quite a bit to start with as I can't
afford a big lens to begin with, it will be good for a smaller
camera too at times, with its very flexible IS lens.
--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
 
..........in front of your lenses. That would be real special. : )
John

"I will laugh in the face of shallow depth of field; I will harness
all available light with super-fast aperture lenses; I will
handhold my 200/1.8 wide open and smile." --Anonymous unemployed
concert photographer

Hehe. I'd forgotten about this one.

From http://www.photo.net/concerts/mirarchi/concer_2.htm (a good
article on concert photography)

--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
--
http://www.digi-images.com

For the best solution to archiving your digital photos http://www.pictureflow.com/ArchiveCreator/Pages/AC-Main.html
 
"I will laugh in the face of shallow depth of field; I will harness
all available light with super-fast aperture lenses; I will
handhold my 200/1.8 wide open and smile." --Anonymous unemployed
concert photographer

Hehe. I'd forgotten about this one.

From http://www.photo.net/concerts/mirarchi/concer_2.htm (a good
article on concert photography)

--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
--
http://www.digi-images.com

For the best solution to archiving your digital photos
http://www.pictureflow.com/ArchiveCreator/Pages/AC-Main.html
--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
 
i'd like to see that photo more often.....; }
"I will laugh in the face of shallow depth of field; I will harness
all available light with super-fast aperture lenses; I will
handhold my 200/1.8 wide open and smile." --Anonymous unemployed
concert photographer

Hehe. I'd forgotten about this one.

From http://www.photo.net/concerts/mirarchi/concer_2.htm (a good
article on concert photography)

--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
--
http://www.digi-images.com

For the best solution to archiving your digital photos
http://www.pictureflow.com/ArchiveCreator/Pages/AC-Main.html
--
photography is my passion.
 
The digital SLR's are only gonna get cheaper (and better).
Yes the great thing about the evolution, and price reduction. I guess an extended form of Moore's law could well be applied, when you look at the advances.
I've recommended the Olympus E-10/20 (similar to your camera) to
quite a few folks who just didn't want to spend "the big bucks" for
a digltal camera, but wanted something better than the normal
point/n/shoot.

They're all quite happy with them.
Yes that was one of my considerations at the time too (E10) and the C2100 (Same Canon Lens as Pro) I really like my Pro now, I just am begining to feel its limitations more.
I know what you mean about the DPR forum. LOL. It's addicting.
But it's so easy to learn about things on forums like this (once
you filter out the complete BS, that is).
Yes, they are an excellent resource as that recent thread mentioned once the BS filter has been applied.
Oh, not only is my canvas print hanging over their mantle (or it
was, they took it down for fear of damage when they started using
the fireplace during the winter), but they actually had all my
pictures (in the albums) out on the coffee table at one time.
Hehe. How do I know? Their grandma asked me once about the
pictures, and I jokingly said something about "hope their coffee
table is stout enough to hold them", and she replied that they
were, indeed, on the coffee table.
Thats very cool, nice to know they care about your work too.
I predict that Canon will announce a very nice digital SLR at a
phenomenal price in a few weeks.
Yes lets hope so! I think you may well be right. I'm really looking forward to finding out.

David

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My Gallery: http://photogallery.davideaves.co.uk
 

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