My first Model shoot - model Cheb...

[Numfar]

Today was my first shoot with a prospective model looking to build
her portfolio. ..... So to get to the point, I thought I'd post a few
of the shots here, hopefully get some feedback and C&C.

The first thing I want to say is that it looks like you did a very
good job and I really like them.

Regarding the eyes I too find some things distracting. The first
thing I noticed is the unattractive mascara in shots 1-5 (since
she's only 18 she puts mascara on like a little girl). She'll learn
quicker if you tell her the "glob" effect is unattractive. I think
if you want to fix it in PS you can improve these images.

I will give the PS work a try here. I may be wrong, but I think the mascara may have been partly my fault, as we were doing 3 looks on the day - two that we mutually agreed upon, and one that I had suggested. We both wanted to do the 'fall' look and the 'classic' look, but I wanted the wild clours/overdone look for the candy store shots.

As we were doing it all in one go, it may have been that she did her best to set up a base for all three looks. Long explanation to say it may have been a problem with my scheduling or suggestions, rather than her sensibilities. That said, I readily admit I have little to no clue about make up, and will have to learn more, and quickly, if I want to do this well.

The second thing about the eyes is it looks like you don't
understand their shape.

That is probably very true. I read the tutorial, and think I get it better now. I will look for more info.

I think there may be some misunderstanding of my 'whitening' of the eyes above. Where I did anything to the eyes specifically, it was selecting the eyes, in a layer mask, and using exposure adjustment I brought them up a third of a stop over the rest of the face. If there was a fair bit of red in the eye in a particular shot, I'd also desaturage the whites by about 10-15 per cent. I didn't actually paint them white at all, which may be how it has come across so far.

I had hoped that by using the exposure adjustment the image would retain any shadows or tonality that was there.

I hope this helps you. Again, nice job.

It really has, thanks for taking time on this Jim.

-Brent
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[Numfar]

All the shots are nice, especially the B+Ws.

Way too much whitening/fixing of the eyes - almost on the verge of
freaky looking. Maybe a bit too much skin fixing as well for shot

1. 1 depending of course on the look you are going for.

Yep, shot #1 was my first go at the technique, and I didn't adjust the opacity at all. I'm gradually refining my use of the technique as I go along and get more of a handle on it.

Thank you for the comment, it all helps.

B

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[Colmac]

What always puzzles me about outdoor shoots on the street or wherever is, where does the model change her clothes? I notice a lot of changes in this shoot. Good set of pics but I agree the PS is a bit overdone.
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Colmac

 

[Jim F.]

glad it helped Brent.

Here's a link that I forgot to post, but it clearly shows how shadowing is required to give the eye the right look.

http://www.tutorialized.com/tutorial/Digital-Eye/6292

Over done perhaps, but still effective as an exaggerated example.

Regards, Jim

 

[Forrest41926]

This is pretty amazing for a first try ... wish I had a tenth the skill you do.

Congrats on some AMAZING photos!

 

[vtpeters]

Great shots, but a few of those 'strange' eye lashes that point upwards/outwards distract from otherwise very nice shots.

Great job!
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Victor Peters

 

[Numfar]

What always puzzles me about outdoor shoots on the street or
wherever is, where does the model change her clothes? I notice a
lot of changes in this shoot.

I tried to be organized on this shoot. I made a list of all the locations I wanted us to hit, organized by proximity and 'look'. So we'd do all shots with one outfit, then stop for a break (Breakfast around 8:30am, then coffee around 11). I made sure to go to a fairly decent place for those breaks (ie with clean bathrooms) and the model changed in there, then. At each break we discussed what we were going to do next.

At the end of the shoot we grabbed a bite and talked about the day.

It worked for us, but i had a vehicle to move us around and to leave the wardrobe changes in when we didn't need them. It would be more difficult without that luxury.

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[Numfar]

Re: What an amazing face

I agree, but response to her look has been, at best, mixed. Personally I think those that don't see at least some potential there are unburdened by common sense, but such things are extremely subjective, so I suppose it's to be expected. That, and if it doesn't come through in the images, it's clearly my fault, and not hers. In person the young woman is striking in her ...well, 'sophisticated cuteness' is the way I'd have to put it.

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At the very begining, I found photography simple: Point the camera and push the button. After several weeks of practice, I discovered I could achieve even better results by turning the camera on and removing the lens cap.

 

[Barugon]

Today was my first shoot with a prospective model looking to build
her portfolio. We got an early start and shot for 8+ hours in
locations all around the city. I blew through an insane amount of
memory, and have nearly 900 RAW files to sort through.

I'm new, so brought too much gear along. Luckily I could leave some
of it in the car. The three lenses I used for 98 per cent of my
shots were the 85 f1.2, the 70-200 f2.8 IS and the 35 f1.4. Other
than the 17-40 for two shots and the 24-105 for convenience in one
sequence, I didn't use another lens.

Everything was shot with the 5D.

I have a fair bit of experience shooting automobiles and products,
wildlife and scenery, but have always hesitated at doing
glamour/fashion work with models. But it turned out to be a great
experience, made better by the fact that the model I was working
with was, despite being just 18 years old, very professional and
extremely patient. So to get to the point, I thought I'd post a few
of the shots here, hopefully get some feedback and C&C.

http://numfar.zenfolio.com/img/p660230285.jpg

http://numfar.zenfolio.com/img/p961808733.jpg

http://numfar.zenfolio.com/img/p813573204.jpg

http://numfar.zenfolio.com/img/p890667852.jpg

http://numfar.zenfolio.com/img/p991039452.jpg

http://numfar.zenfolio.com/img/p620664330.jpg

http://numfar.zenfolio.com/img/p1031604374.jpg

http://numfar.zenfolio.com/img/p720092406.jpg

http://numfar.zenfolio.com/img/p934216052.jpg

http://numfar.zenfolio.com/img/p985440294.jpg

http://numfar.zenfolio.com/img/p873719395.jpg

These are really excellent. You might try a few full body shots too.

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[Elwood_98034]

who was photographed at her prom making funny faces with two of her friends. They were taking their own mug shot, and a photographer caught them.

She looks very much like the same girl when she sticks her tongue out.

Num, do you know if it is her? The Pop Photo pic was great.
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[monokul]

the pictures are great. The only think I don't do with models when it comes to portrait is wide optic - it makes the face looki funny. Great job.
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[Gary R]

there's some great shots here, disregard the irrelevant technical critque.

the client is not concerned with that when the subject is "commercial" photography.

there are saleable images here, show the images, collect the check.

 

[Numfar]

Num, do you know if it is her? The Pop Photo pic was great.

My model's prom was about 3 weeks ago - so I doubt it. I'm dropping off a CD to her today, so I'll ask to be sure.

B
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At the very begining, I found photography simple: Point the camera and push the button. After several weeks of practice, I discovered I could achieve even better results by turning the camera on and removing the lens cap.

 

[Elwood_98034]

Num, do you know if it is her? The Pop Photo pic was great.

My model's prom was about 3 weeks ago - so I doubt it. I'm dropping
off a CD to her today, so I'll ask to be sure.

B
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Thanks, I was just curious.

More to the point, she is a beautiful girl, and you must have a good camera to have taken such good pictures of her like that (that is what I always get told, anyway).

I think you both need to keep doing what you are doing, as it looks pretty good so far.
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Elwood.

Light! Give me light!

 

[Numfar]

I used the 5D on the shoot, with the 85 f1.2, 34 f1.4 and 70-200 f2.8 - so yes, very good gear.

And as we all know, good gear = good photos, right?

B

PS - being serious for a sec - I wonder if you have that Pop Photo article and could scan the pic, I'd just be interested in seeing the comparision of the two young ladies.
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At the very begining, I found photography simple: Point the camera and push the button. After several weeks of practice, I discovered I could achieve even better results by turning the camera on and removing the lens cap.

 

[Elwood_98034]

And as we all know, good gear = good photos, right?

B

PS - being serious for a sec - I wonder if you have that Pop Photo
article and could scan the pic, I'd just be interested in seeing
the comparision of the two young ladies.
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Num, I have to go to Alaska for a week tomorrow, but I have sent myself an email to remind me when I get back. I will email it to you.

They are very similar in appearance, and have very similar tongues. Go figure...

Elwood.

Light! Give me light!

 

[Numfar]

Num, I have to go to Alaska for a week tomorrow, but I have sent
myself an email to remind me when I get back. I will email it to
you.

They are very similar in appearance, and have very similar tongues.
Go figure...

Heh - I'm looking at possible trips to Alaska (for next year) myself. But on tuesday I'm off to the Rockies for two weeks - so I will look for the email when I get back.

Have a good trip. Say hi to a grizzly for me.

B

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At the very begining, I found photography simple: Point the camera and push the button. After several weeks of practice, I discovered I could achieve even better results by turning the camera on and removing the lens cap.