My D70 initial Report

Most pro portrait photographers will tell you that 100mm is the
ideal portrait lens for a 35mm camera. I think a lot of people are
going for the 50mm lens as it’s the “standard” lens that they
started using. My favorite focal length for portraits is 200mm as
I can give my subject more space and some people don’t react well
to having there space invaded. Then again, I’m not a portrait
photographer.

Morris
Thousands of birds would beg to differ ;-)
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M7
http://mystic7.darwinonline.org
 
  1. 's 1/2/3.......Kit Lens........4/5 Sigma 135-400.
New Disney Concert Hall LA

Yeah, well...

s602............Kit Lens...........blah blah blah
Not fair! You had better light. Plus, you're shudder ;-)


Just lookin' for a good time, Larry!... :) Hope ya don't mind.
(the surf shot is excellente bien!)

I liked your D70 shots, and I like Bob's shots as well.

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best,
shudder
    • shudder's digital darkroom
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M7
http://mystic7.darwinonline.org
 
G, you came at a bad time. Someone put up a post asking people to put up pictures of flags, and of course every time an American flag was posted, the eurocentric elitists (as opposed to europeans in general) had to have a go at them, which p'd me off. It's not that I'm a flag waving "we're #1" type, it's the hypocrisy that gets me. So that turned into a flame war, then someone started another flag thread which also ended in a flame war, then someone responded with "political threads suck" which also started a flame war, then add me to the mix, and, well... This all taking place after an almost daily barrage of "D70 or 20D?" posts, and tensions kind of built up there. But for the most part it's a cool forum, not as cool as this one, though. I don't go back because I see some of my "nemeses" egging me on, and it will only start more fights. Plus I've learned all I need to learn from them, now it's up to me to put the ideas into practice.
Hi Guilherme: The other forum is about 3 times as big and as with
all forums when a new hot camera comes out it gets popular and
there is alot of repetition of info as some folks are in over their
heads asking stupid questions that should be researched before
threaded............ something like when the S7000 came along.

There are a few more top dogs and a few more contributers; the
folks there are OK and not really hostile or less tolerent and will
let their views be known. BUT nothing like the Canon Boards,
generally speaking I find it more stimulating and you will enjoy it.

The surfing shot was taken from a bluff overlooking the breaking
waves in Santa Cruz, California.
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Larry.
**************
'When the Power of LOVE overcomes the Love of Power the world will
know peace.'

--Jimi Hendrix
--
M7
http://mystic7.darwinonline.org
 
Most pro portrait photographers will tell you that 100mm is the
ideal portrait lens for a 35mm camera. I think a lot of people are
going for the 50mm lens as it’s the “standard” lens that they
started using. My favorite focal length for portraits is 200mm as
I can give my subject more space and some people don’t react well
to having there space invaded. Then again, I’m not a portrait
photographer.

Morris
Hi Morris,

I'm no portrait photog myself (Landscape scenic and street + Macro's my bag) I wasn't meaning to contradict but just point out that 50mm was originally a 1:1 and at 80mm isn't really the best portrait solution either (Though perhaps not a bad compromise for some!)

The 50mm, I suppose, was originally the 1:1 included cheapo lens of "very little" choice :-) on your new 1980s 35mm film SLR. I don't think you can get a true 100mm Prime at present the nearest one above, I think is an 85mm (136mm? if my math serves!) I'd actually choose that over the 50mm for portraits but for high quality near 1:1 street and low light I'd be going after a 35mm. For the in-between through 100mm I'd probably (and did) get a decent mid zoom 28-75 (45-120). Back in film I always liked the 50mm for street stuff, but as you I prefer a longer lens for portraiture. Indoors low light though I find the longer stuff is almost hopeless and for me that's where I find that a fast"ish" mid zoom actually comes to the fore, especially now that ISO 1600 is probably cleaner in low-light on my new cam as ISO 200 was/is on on my S7K - In-fact 3200 is highly useable with a bit of work! (With regards to Film stuff I'm talking from way back in the late 70's early 80's before family commitments robbed me of the finances to continue my hobby!- I only recently got interested in photography again with the advent of the 6900!)

Of on a tangent a bit :- I think clean high ISO shooting is where the true battle between Film and Digital SLR comes into play. Film loses ground to the convenience of quickly shifting the third parameter ( ISO) to compensate for lighting and lens capability and is a real winner - whichever current mainstream DSLR you have. I feel that the speed of the lens is definitely less critical to the outcome nowadays and that's probably another reason why really fast primes are probably less of a requirement in todays market. (by no means redundant though!)

Best Regards

Greg

--
Every silver lining has a cloud ;-(

http://www.pbase.com/chromedome
 
Most pro portrait photographers will tell you that 100mm is the
ideal portrait lens for a 35mm camera. I think a lot of people are
going for the 50mm lens as it’s the “standard” lens that they
started using. My favorite focal length for portraits is 200mm as
I can give my subject more space and some people don’t react well
to having there space invaded. Then again, I’m not a portrait
photographer.

Morris
Thousands of birds would beg to differ ;-)
--
M7
http://mystic7.darwinonline.org
Hiya Mystic

What sort of birds ar those then? ;-) Oh! and at the risk of starting something unsavoury - (Q) When is a Frog not a Frog? (A) When it's a Monkey! Didn't stop folk from a certain town in the UK hanging it though! ;-)

Greg

--
Every silver lining has a cloud ;-(

http://www.pbase.com/chromedome
 
Hi Thomas:

Please be my guest; it will be interesting to see what you come up with; as some of you know PP is not my strong suite. Thomas you too are the Man for asking.................thank you.

Larry.
Guilerme you are the Man.

The D70 is a magnificent Camera and it has helped me along beyond
my wildest dreams; you gotta have both dials (A & S) and a 1 Gig
card.
  1. 's 1/2/3.......Kit Lens........4/5 Sigma 135-400.
New Disney Concert Hall LA

Mind if I post an altered version of this one, Larry?
 
Hi Michael;

I think we are going to see many breathtaking photographs of this building during our lifetime and it going to be constant subject matter for both local Architecturial and Photographic schools in SoCal.

The Grove on Fairfax is totally Micky Mouse, but I was blown away by Samy's new store. I love visiting LA and was in town before Christmas when the weather was summer in winter.

This Buds for you:



Kneeboarder in the Green Room at Cardiff Reef.

Darn.............I forgot to find out about that temp-paint from a friend who has been working on the lot at Fox for the past 22 years.

Keep Kool.

--
Larry.
**************
'When the Power of LOVE overcomes the Love of Power the world will know peace.'

--Jimi Hendrix
  1. 's 1/2/3.......Kit Lens........4/5 Sigma 135-400.
New Disney Concert Hall LA

Yeah, well...

s602............Kit Lens...........blah blah blah



Just lookin' for a good time, Larry!... :) Hope ya don't mind.
(the surf shot is excellente bien!)

I liked your D70 shots, and I like Bob's shots as well.

--
best,
shudder
    • shudder's digital darkroom
 
Most pro portrait photographers will tell you that 100mm is the
ideal portrait lens for a 35mm camera. I think a lot of people are
going for the 50mm lens as it’s the “standard” lens that they
started using. My favorite focal length for portraits is 200mm as
I can give my subject more space and some people don’t react well
to having there space invaded. Then again, I’m not a portrait
photographer.

Morris
Thousands of birds would beg to differ ;-)
--
M7
http://mystic7.darwinonline.org
Hiya Mystic

What sort of birds ar those then? ;-) Oh! and at the risk of
starting something unsavoury - (Q) When is a Frog not a Frog? (A)
When it's a Monkey! Didn't stop folk from a certain town in the UK
hanging it though! ;-)

Greg
Is that you, batty? ;-)
--
Every silver lining has a cloud ;-(

http://www.pbase.com/chromedome
--
M7
http://mystic7.darwinonline.org
 
I love visiting LA and was in town before
Christmas when the weather was summer in winter.
...when you come in to town. We could hook up for a brew. Love the green room shot. I lived in Cardiff for a year when attending UCSD. Never saw the water look like that, though! Cool stuff.

--
best,
shudder
    • shudder's digital darkroom
 
Not fair! You had better light. Plus, you're shudder ;-)
That's a compliment... I think. :)

I was thinking of you yesterday when passing through Salem, CT. We came upon a bike shop in the middle of freakin' nowhere with a big, bad chopper in the winodw... The place was called BAD BOYZ TOYZ. Ha!

--
best,
shudder
    • shudder's digital darkroom
 
Not fair! You had better light. Plus, you're shudder ;-)
That's a compliment... I think. :)
Of course!
I was thinking of you yesterday when passing through Salem, CT. We
came upon a bike shop in the middle of freakin' nowhere with a big,
bad chopper in the winodw... The place was called BAD BOYZ TOYZ.
Ha!

--
best,
shudder
I don't think too many "Bad Boyz" have 60 grand to spend on "toyz" ;-)

I'm not sure if I mentioned it in this forum or not, but those good ol' boyz at Harley credit waited until I had 10 months left on my payments, and repo'd my bike, them scumbags. I'd been a month behind most of the last two years, but once they had their money plus some nice interest, they got the bike too. So, from now on, just call me M7, Photographer.
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M7
http://mystic7.darwinonline.org
 
Here's a corrected version of Larry's shot after some work in Photoshop using Levels and Curves. The original was quite underexposed, and very low contrast. While I still think Shudder's shot is ultimately the better photo, I figured this would be a fairer comparison. :)


  1. 's 1/2/3.......Kit Lens........4/5 Sigma 135-400.
New Disney Concert Hall LA

Yeah, well...

s602............Kit Lens...........blah blah blah



Just lookin' for a good time, Larry!... :) Hope ya don't mind.
(the surf shot is excellente bien!)

I liked your D70 shots, and I like Bob's shots as well.

--
best,
shudder
    • shudder's digital darkroom
 
Most pro portrait photographers will tell you that 100mm is the
ideal portrait lens for a 35mm camera. I think a lot of people are
going for the 50mm lens as it’s the “standard” lens that they
started using. My favorite focal length for portraits is 200mm as
I can give my subject more space and some people don’t react well
to having there space invaded. Then again, I’m not a portrait
photographer.

Morris
Thousands of birds would beg to differ ;-)
--
M7
http://mystic7.darwinonline.org
Hiya Mystic

What sort of birds ar those then? ;-) Oh! and at the risk of
starting something unsavoury - (Q) When is a Frog not a Frog? (A)
When it's a Monkey! Didn't stop folk from a certain town in the UK
hanging it though! ;-)

Greg
Is that you, batty? ;-)
Neh! Mystic 'tis not batty, the bard of cryptic prose, but I Chromie. Do you think I might masquerade under someonelses handle? - shame of shame! :-)

here's a link to the story of the Hartlepool Monkey (hope you enjoy!)

http://www.rjh.f2s.com/monkey/

--
Every silver lining has a cloud ;-(

http://www.pbase.com/chromedome
 
man , thats is a great lightning shot, great exposure. I bet the printsyou made of it totally rock. all the best....Paul
Onya! This is a decision you will never regret, I know I have not.
I only pick up the 602 when I am feeling nostalgic now.. sigh...
But it would never have taken this.



I have printed some 18x12 inch prints that have blown me away and
got a 30 inch panorama the other day. I have a wife somewhere - at
least I seem to remember one ;-)
Cheers,
Tim
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