more E1 sample image (no noise !)

[William Chang]

Some more new E1 image from Japan , quality look better than all the previous image we have seen ... noise free !!!!

http://digitalcamera.impress.co.jp/03_09/tokuho/index.htm

E1 picture - 4th to 8th ...

 

[YosemiteSam]

Some more new E1 image from Japan , quality look better than all
the previous image we have seen ... noise free !!!!

http://digitalcamera.impress.co.jp/03_09/tokuho/index.htm

E1 picture - 4th to 8th ...

How do u know they're E-1?
What lens was used?
How can u determine 'no noise' from a jpg on your monitor?

 

[Yvonne]

Hello George

http://digitalcamera.impress.co.jp/03_09/tokuho/index.htm

E1 picture - 4th to 8th ...

How do u know they're E-1?

Pic 4 through 8 are under a title that contains "E-1".

What lens was used?

?? Yes, that would be interesting to know, can you tell us, William?

How can u determine 'no noise' from a jpg on your monitor?

You can't, but you can download the original file (there is a blue button beside the thumbnail, saying "original")

........... and, .... they sure are impressive!!!!!!!!

--
Yvonne

...whatever does it mean?.... :-O

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[Yvonne]

http://digitalcamera.impress.co.jp/03_09/tokuho/index.htm

E1 picture - 4th to 8th ...

How do u know they're E-1?

Pic 4 through 8 are under a title that contains "E-1".

What lens was used?

?? Yes, that would be interesting to know, can you tell us, William?

How can u determine 'no noise' from a jpg on your monitor?

You can't, but you can download the original file (there is a blue
button beside the thumbnail, saying "original")

........... and, .... they sure are impressive!!!!!!!!

--
Yvonne

...whatever does it mean?.... :-O

http://community.webshots.com/user/yvonnesteinmann

--
Yvonne

...whatever does it mean?.... :-O

http://community.webshots.com/user/yvonnesteinmann

 

[William Chang]

Pic 4 to 8 are E-1 sample image ...

so download the original file and see the EXIF data youself
(blue button beside the thumbnail, saying "original")

all pictures are taken at ISO 100 ... from the EXIF data shown , the lens should be E 14 - 54 mm F2.8 - F3.5 ....

well this is the best E1 image i have seen so far ....

 

[Jim Attfield]

... the experts have spoken, the E-1 is a dud, the almighty C&N machine rolls on, unstoppable...

Let's not let a little inconvenience like actual good pictures get in the way of a good killing :-(

Jim

Pic 4 to 8 are E-1 sample image ...

so download the original file and see the EXIF data youself
(blue button beside the thumbnail, saying "original")

all pictures are taken at ISO 100 ... from the EXIF data shown ,
the lens should be E 14 - 54 mm F2.8 - F3.5 ....

well this is the best E1 image i have seen so far ....

 

[Roland Karlsson]

Some more new E1 image from Japan , quality look better than all
the previous image we have seen ... noise free !!!!

http://digitalcamera.impress.co.jp/03_09/tokuho/index.htm

E1 picture - 4th to 8th ...

Looks nice.

At ISO 100 they are of course "noise free". Good lightning
and a pretty girl also helps .

The pictures are rather sharp and has nice gradiation. The
second one I find really good, even though there are some
oversaturated parts.

One surprise though - the first image has chromatic
aberration in the upper left corner. This gives a rather
strange feeling - Phil takes unsharp pictures without CA
and this is sharp pictures with CA. Sharp pictures with CA
you can take with any good DSLR, even withou CA with
a good lens.

Roland

 

[Roland Karlsson]

... the experts have spoken, the E-1 is a dud, the almighty C&N
machine rolls on, unstoppable...

Let's not let a little inconvenience like actual good pictures get
in the way of a good killing :-(

This is not fair IMHO. Of course you can take good pictures with
the camera at ISO 100. No one has said anything else. But
there are lots of cameras that can take good pictures at ISO 100.

The E1 was hyped to be an extra ordinary camera with a
rather high price. It is in that light the camera has been
judged.

So ... those good pictures ... are they extra ordinary. And would
they still be extra ordinary at ISO 800?

Roland

 

[YosemiteSam]

How do u know they're E-1?

Pic 4 through 8 are under a title that contains "E-1".

Aha! Thanks, I didn't see that. Wonder what the purpose of this page of photos is?

What lens was used?

?? Yes, that would be interesting to know, can you tell us, William?

Yvonne

 

[Ross]

Looks nice.

At ISO 100 they are of course "noise free". Good lightning
and a pretty girl also helps .

The pictures are rather sharp and has nice gradiation. The
second one I find really good, even though there are some
oversaturated parts.

One surprise though - the first image has chromatic
aberration in the upper left corner. This gives a rather
strange feeling - Phil takes unsharp pictures without CA
and this is sharp pictures with CA. Sharp pictures with CA
you can take with any good DSLR, even withou CA with
a good lens.

Roland

Roland,

I hadn't noticed the CA, but since I printed that picture for fun, I looked at the print. I needed an 8X loupe to see it. I picked the first picture to play with, because it had normal dimensions. The others had strange pixel dimensions to the original files (like 2800+?). The first picture did need USM for sure, but printed nicely on a Canon S800 inkjet with good colors. Oh well, why not, as you said, optimum conditions & nice subject. I'll chech for the CA in the original file, thanks.
--
Bob Ross

 

[Brian Ezzell]

So ... those good pictures ... are they extra ordinary. And would
they still be extra ordinary at ISO 800?

If you were shooting those on FILM, would you choose ISO 800 film?

I sure wouldn't, and I wouldn't select anything less than ISO 100 on a digital for those shots.

I printed some of the 'noisey' photos posted last week. Yes, at 100% on my monitor, there is visable noise. But printed at 8x10 om my cheap HP they look great!

This noise debate is a bunch of hooey - if it works for you, use it.

-- Brian
http://www.click-pics.com
E-20, Sunpak 544, and a bag full of other stuff...

 

[Stevelink]

Greetings! I appreciate finally seeing some good images from the E-1. Although I agree that they look quite sharp and well-saturated, I am wondering if they are that much better overall than my E-20 or C-5050 images. Although Phil's noise and resolution tests make me wonder about investing in yet another 5 m-pixel system, I am now curious as to a comparison of image quality between the E-1 and the upcoming Sony DSC F-828 with that Zeiss optic! True, this may be apples and oranges, but an interesting comparison nonetheless.
Steve
--
Stephen A. Solomon MBA
[email protected]

 

[Edgar Ubert]

Hi there,
Thanks for the link.
As we knew the E-1 is perfectly capable of making great pictures at 100 ISO.
That's one of the reasons I will buy it.



Taking a photograph is leaving a footprint in the future.

 

[Yvonne]

Hello George

To me it looks like its a magazine on digital imagery.. but I cannot read it either ;-) - maybe William can help us here?

Happy photo hunting
Yvonne

How do u know they're E-1?

Pic 4 through 8 are under a title that contains "E-1".

Aha! Thanks, I didn't see that. Wonder what the purpose of this
page of photos is?

What lens was used?

?? Yes, that would be interesting to know, can you tell us, William?

Yvonne

--
Yvonne

...whatever does it mean?.... :-O

http://community.webshots.com/user/yvonnesteinmann

 

[Roland Karlsson]

If you were shooting those on FILM, would you choose ISO 800 film?
I sure wouldn't, and I wouldn't select anything less than ISO 100
on a digital for those shots.

Of course. Maybe I was unclear. Those pictures are fine.
I was not commenting on using more ISO on those pictures.

My post was only an answer to Jim's post. I think that Jim
was unfair in his sarcastic post, trying to by funny at the
cost of other that has been writing here.

This noise debate is a bunch of hooey

No, it is not. It might be proven wrong. But it is relevant until then.
The competing products can use ISO 800 and get nice noise free
pictures. If you need to use ISO 200 to get the same with E-1,
it is a disadvantage. And that is interesting to know before you
invest in a new (rather expensive) system.

• if it works for you, use it.

Yes, of course.

Roland

 

[Roland Karlsson]

As we knew the E-1 is perfectly capable of making great pictures at
100 ISO.
That's one of the reasons I will buy it.

There are cheaper cameras that can take great pictures at ISO 100.

So - what are your motivations for the E1 over those?

Roland

 

[Edgar Ubert]

There are cheaper cameras that can take great pictures at ISO 100.

So - what are your motivations for the E1 over those?

Roland

Actually I own at the moment a Leica digilux, great camera but I need a DSLR especially for the naturephotography I need more than 300 mm so thats one reason.

The second one is I need something that can stand some abuse (rain,cold, a little bump from time to time)
The third is the size, it's pretty small if you look at canon or nikon or fuiji
And fourth, the body mabe a few hundred dollars overpriced the lenses are NOT.
If I buy a DSLR I need lenses also..........

greatings Edgar

--
Taking a photograph is leaving a footprint in the future.

 

[BOB44713]

I just downloaded the original-sized images (3 pics of the girl) and printed 8x10's on my Kodak 8500. WOW!!! They look excellent and no noise to be found anywhere. They are tack sharp and very nice color.

BobT

 

[Pearl Rider]

If you were shooting those on FILM, would you choose ISO 800 film?
I sure wouldn't, and I wouldn't select anything less than ISO 100
on a digital for those shots.

Maybe so if you knew you'd get great quality at that ISO. I moved from an E-10 to the 10D and, right away, the difference between noise in images from both cameras was staggering. With the E-10, I was loathe to move it off ISO 80 (ISO 160 was OK) but now, it's just another setting I make when the circumstances arise. Here's an example, I shot this tiger on a rather overcast day so I used ISO 800 to get a fast enough shutter speed to stop the action as it was pacing. Then, to my surprise, it walked out into the moat and started coming towards me. Well, I had nothing to prefocus on so I hastily switched the camera into AI SERVO mode, which focus tracks moving subjects, and bingo, I got this shot before it veered off...



And this shot was taken at ISO 1600 and no noise reduction of ANY kind was used...



And no more noise in my shots with blue skies (ISO 100)...

 

[Joseph S Wisniewski]

Actually I own at the moment a Leica digilux, great camera but I
need a DSLR especially for the naturephotography I need more than
300 mm so thats one reason.

Consider that the Oly 300mm f2.8 is 1.6 pounds heavier than an equivelant Nikon (as well as longer and wider). It's also longer, heavier, and wider than a 300mm f2.8 Canon, and the Canon has image stabilization. Both the Nikon and Canon have ultrasonic ring motors, while the Oly has gear motors.

The second one is I need something that can stand some abuse
(rain,cold, a little bump from time to time)

I have a Nikon D100 that went bouncing a long way down a hillside. The case took some ugly damage, but the camera is totally sound.

The third is the size, it's pretty small if you look at canon or
nikon or fuiji
And fourth, the body mabe a few hundred dollars overpriced the
lenses are NOT.

No. They're a few thousand dollars overpriced (looking at that 300mm you said you needed).

If I buy a DSLR I need lenses also..........

Percisely why I use a DLSR that has hundreds of availiable lenses, from four manufacturers. Not 4 lenses from one manufacturer.

--
Ciao!

Joe

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