Maybe you should quote my post in total, as context is everything.
None is needed and profitable next to the Sigma 56mm.
That's only a benefit if your goal is using an aps-c sensor in stead of making pictures.
Sony is better here, but at those prices I would rather buy into full frame. A7III + third party FE lenses is the main enemy of Sony aps-c. No need for Canon add even more redundancy to the market here.
I really can't see Canon making a success out of crop format RF lenses. That would be their third go at APS-C lenses. An RF mount 7D successor might be credible if Canon were to be badgered into making it, but its main justification would be as a teleconverter for the 70-200mm lenses and the RF 100-500mm. An R6 plus either 24-105mm lens would make more sense than a fast APS-C standard zoom plus a putative R7 at its likely price.
People running EOS M alongside EOS R (like I do) do it for size, weight and/or cost reasons. That's why an R7 would have absolutely no appeal for me. I would just carry on with my collection of EOS M until they died, maybe stockpiling second-hand bargains as they appeared.
Certain youtubers are trying to blow way out of proportions every little rumor an or gossip these days by creating clickbait titles to get views. Do I personally think the M6 days are numbered, yes. But that is far different then actually claiming Canon has officially discontinued the M6 when Canon has yet to make such claims in any statement that I have seen.
I have stated several times that Canon will have to, IMO, convert the some of their DSLRs lineup, to an significant number of the cropped variety. This has to be done to maintain their vast leadership in Camera Sales.
Canon have had a cropped sensor mirrorless lineup for nearly ten years. Another new one isn't going to be as successful (or it's going to be even more of a failure if you're a pessimist )
If that's the case, why does the EF-M 32mm f/1.4 exist when the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 is also out there?
Uh no, the benefit is having a wide selection of native lenses without using an adapter.
I'm not referencing the Sony 16-55 f/2.8. I'm talking about improvements in optical performance to the basic EF-M kit zoom, like Nikon did with the DX Z 16-50 or Fuji did with the X 15-45 PZ.
You expect Canon to be transparent with their customers when they strong along F-mount users?
mine just coughed a bit after reading this thread but it is fine now til it quits working someday
the m 32 f1.4 was already here before the siggy 30 came along
some of us don't care about m not being a complete system, we have Canon FF, and ef - efs links
some of us don't care, we have ef links and we have 11-22 and 32
This has been on since, at least, 2016. They will eventually be right...mine just coughed a bit after reading this thread but it is fine now til it quits working someday
sony, fuji, oly owners come gleefully flocking here
but they don't factor in that siggy is the one winning
and because of siggy dominating great lenses, research dollars are less for great bodies
what goes around comes around for1 those cheering on the unofficial announcement of a supposed demise
until Canon gets its act together on small and powerful, they would not be smart in discontinuing what they have already that is small and powerful - eg, 14 fps; e-shutter, 32.5 mpxl in a small body - where is the replacement for these at $850
I don't think anyone is cheering the demise of EF-M; rather, it looks like it's the opposite: people lamenting what could've been if Canon gave the system the love it deserved.mine just coughed a bit after reading this thread but it is fine now til it quits working someday
sony, fuji, oly owners come gleefully flocking here
but they don't factor in that siggy is the one winning
and because of siggy dominating great lenses, research dollars are less for great bodies
what goes around comes around for those cheering on the unofficial announcement of a supposed demise
until Canon gets its act together on small and powerful, they would not be smart in discontinuing what they have already that is small and powerful - eg, 14 fps; e-shutter, 32.5 mpxl in a small body - where is the replacement for these at $850
Canon has not had an cropped sensor mirrorless lineup for nearly ten years in the way that Sony had done it nor as Nikon is now doing it. An to me, that would be the biggest selling point, using FF lens easily on cropped sensors.
It could be successful depending on Canon's roadmap. Previously, EF-M ran concurrently and separately with EF and EF-S. Many DSLR users didn't want to move to or invest in EF-M as well because of compatibility and performance.
exactly!This has been on since, at least, 2016. They will eventually be right...mine just coughed a bit after reading this thread but it is fine now til it quits working someday
sony, fuji, oly owners come gleefully flocking here
but they don't factor in that siggy is the one winning
and because of siggy dominating great lenses, research dollars are less for great bodies
what goes around comes around for1 those cheering on the unofficial announcement of a supposed demise
until Canon gets its act together on small and powerful, they would not be smart in discontinuing what they have already that is small and powerful - eg, 14 fps; e-shutter, 32.5 mpxl in a small body - where is the replacement for these at $850
In that very same vein, I predict the demise of the EF lens series. ;-)
...Meanwhile, I will keep using my equivalent 320mm tool in such a compact format most of other photographic solutions users can not imagine being possible.
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many of use m6II as an adjunct system -- myself with the 11-22, 32, EF 100L, toki 10-17 FE, and 55-250 STMI don't think anyone is cheering the demise of EF-M; rather, it looks like it's the opposite: people lamenting what could've been if Canon gave the system the love it deserved.mine just coughed a bit after reading this thread but it is fine now til it quits working someday
sony, fuji, oly owners come gleefully flocking here
but they don't factor in that siggy is the one winning
and because of siggy dominating great lenses, research dollars are less for great bodies
what goes around comes around for those cheering on the unofficial announcement of a supposed demise
until Canon gets its act together on small and powerful, they would not be smart in discontinuing what they have already that is small and powerful - eg, 14 fps; e-shutter, 32.5 mpxl in a small body - where is the replacement for these at $850
Nikon managed to make the Z50 pretty compact. Pretty sure Canon can make a similarly sized camera too.
On one hand, so many people look at FF as the holy grail - seeing APSC as a stop gap until FF in more affordable. But cropped sensors have other advantages, such as size, weight and reach.
I've been using my EF and EF-S lenses on EOS M for nearly eight years. I sold my 1100D soon after I bought my first EOS M, as the M was a far better complement to my 5DII. I was reluctant to buy EF-M lenses at first because of their incompatibility with FF but I replaced my (incompatible with the 5DII) EF-S 10-22mm with the EF-M 11-22mm and never looked back.
In some ways better. I find the EOS R is a lot more fun to use than the 5Ds.
That would be a break with tradition. EF-S lenses were incompatible with FF for their first 14 years. They first became compatible with FF cameras with the introduction of the EOS R, and I suspect that was mainly because of the crop format 4k video.
I would go further than that. APS-C lenses in general could well be next. That's why I said "I really can't see Canon making a success out of crop format RF lenses."
Just keep taking pictures and if and when something better comes along...go there. It's always been that way. Technology constantly changes from what we have and the improvements are exciting.We'll see what happens. I have (hopefully) several mores years of useful life for my M50 and current lenses. When it's time to replace it, I'll have to see what's available that suits my needs and wants. Unfortunately, at the moment there are not many brands targeting the small size + high IQ combination of the M series. Even the micro 4/3 options tend to be not that small.
