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Hi Fuji Friends

I'm in a bit of a dilemma here.

I'm debating whether to buy an LCD monitor.

The main reason for this jump into the unknown is that I think I'm starting to really suffer from eye strain as I use a PC at work for up to 8 hours a day, and then use my home PC for maybe up to a couple of hours a night. Both my office pc and my home pc have flat screen 17 inch CRT monitors.

So other than going to get my eyes tested for the first time in my life, maybe middle age is catching me up :-), I'm trying to get an LCD monitor for work as that the greatest exposure, but as the price of LCD monitors is getting more sensible here in the UK, I'm not deliberating getting one for home as well.

So that leads me to the all important question - how does an LCD monitor compare with a CRT monitor for photo editing. The only experience I have is with my laptop (Compaq - sorry Jay if you are reading this :-) ) and I don't think that is a s good as using my CRT monitor.

So who has upgraded / changed from a CRT monitor to an LCD monitor and what are your views, especially relating to photo editing. I'm not to worried about web surfing or office applications as I do have some experience of these on other work PCs.

At the moment I'm looking at entry level 15 inch LCD, but from major manufactures such as Iiyama , NEC Samsung etc, not the really cheap no-name brands, but then again I'm not rich enough to go out and get a 17 inch Sony or something like that.

Any feedback would be really great - I don't want to go out and spend £250 - £00 on a monitor and find that its useless for editing photos.

Thanks for reading this guys, and hopefully I'll hear from some of the old faithfulls her as well as the many new folk on this forum.

--
Duncan
Birmingham, England
http://www.pbase.com/duncanburt
 
Duncan Burt said:
The main reason for this jump into the unknown is that I think I'm
starting to really suffer from eye strain as I use a PC at work for
up to 8 hours a day, and then use my home PC for maybe up to a
couple of hours a night. Both my office pc and my home pc have flat
screen 17 inch CRT monitors.
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You sure you're running the video at the optimal refresh rate? I run my work and home monitors at 85Hz. Anything lower than 75Hz I quickly feel the eye strain.
Duncan Burt said:
So that leads me to the all important question - how does an LCD
monitor compare with a CRT monitor for photo editing. The only
experience I have is with my laptop (Compaq - sorry Jay if you are
reading this :-) ) and I don't think that is a s good as using my
CRT monitor.
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IMO, LCD is completely inadequate for photo editing. I have another system setup at home with dual monitors, one LCD and the other CRT. Affordable LCDs are only 1024x768. That alone makes editing cumbersome not to mention the lower dynamic range in comparison to CRT.
 
It has been discussed several days ago, try search for that topic. Thanks.
Duncan Burt said:
Hi Fuji Friends

I'm in a bit of a dilemma here.

I'm debating whether to buy an LCD monitor.

The main reason for this jump into the unknown is that I think I'm
starting to really suffer from eye strain as I use a PC at work for
up to 8 hours a day, and then use my home PC for maybe up to a
couple of hours a night. Both my office pc and my home pc have flat
screen 17 inch CRT monitors.

So other than going to get my eyes tested for the first time in my
life, maybe middle age is catching me up :-), I'm trying to get an
LCD monitor for work as that the greatest exposure, but as the
price of LCD monitors is getting more sensible here in the UK, I'm
not deliberating getting one for home as well.

So that leads me to the all important question - how does an LCD
monitor compare with a CRT monitor for photo editing. The only
experience I have is with my laptop (Compaq - sorry Jay if you are
reading this :-) ) and I don't think that is a s good as using my
CRT monitor.

So who has upgraded / changed from a CRT monitor to an LCD monitor
and what are your views, especially relating to photo editing. I'm
not to worried about web surfing or office applications as I do
have some experience of these on other work PCs.

At the moment I'm looking at entry level 15 inch LCD, but from
major manufactures such as Iiyama , NEC Samsung etc, not the really
cheap no-name brands, but then again I'm not rich enough to go out
and get a 17 inch Sony or something like that.

Any feedback would be really great - I don't want to go out and
spend £250 - £00 on a monitor and find that its useless for editing
photos.

Thanks for reading this guys, and hopefully I'll hear from some of
the old faithfulls her as well as the many new folk on this forum.

--
Duncan
Birmingham, England
http://www.pbase.com/duncanburt
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Duncan Burt said:
Hi Fuji Friends

I'm in a bit of a dilemma here.

I'm debating whether to buy an LCD monitor.

The main reason for this jump into the unknown is that I think I'm
starting to really suffer from eye strain as I use a PC at work for
up to 8 hours a day, and then use my home PC for maybe up to a
couple of hours a night. Both my office pc and my home pc have flat
screen 17 inch CRT monitors.

So other than going to get my eyes tested for the first time in my
life, maybe middle age is catching me up :-), I'm trying to get an
LCD monitor for work as that the greatest exposure, but as the
price of LCD monitors is getting more sensible here in the UK, I'm
not deliberating getting one for home as well.

So that leads me to the all important question - how does an LCD
monitor compare with a CRT monitor for photo editing. The only
experience I have is with my laptop (Compaq - sorry Jay if you are
reading this :-) ) and I don't think that is a s good as using my
CRT monitor.

So who has upgraded / changed from a CRT monitor to an LCD monitor
and what are your views, especially relating to photo editing. I'm
not to worried about web surfing or office applications as I do
have some experience of these on other work PCs.

At the moment I'm looking at entry level 15 inch LCD, but from
major manufactures such as Iiyama , NEC Samsung etc, not the really
cheap no-name brands, but then again I'm not rich enough to go out
and get a 17 inch Sony or something like that.

Any feedback would be really great - I don't want to go out and
spend £250 - £00 on a monitor and find that its useless for editing
photos.

Thanks for reading this guys, and hopefully I'll hear from some of
the old faithfulls her as well as the many new folk on this forum.

--
Duncan
Birmingham, England
http://www.pbase.com/duncanburt
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I switched from a 17 inch CRT monitor to an Apple 15 inch monitor and just love it. I don't notice any problems in processing my pictures but I am far from a professional and the purists will tell you that the color accuracy is better on a CRT. However, I love the space savings, the energy savings, the reduction in heat and last, but not least, it is a lot easier on the eyes. A review of LCD monitors was performed in a well known magazine a few months back (can't remember the name) and one comment the reviewers had was that "after reviewing and staring at the LCD monitors on and off for two days EVERONE commented on the fact that their eyes diddn't bother near as much as when the reviewed CRT monitors. The LCD monitors have improved greatly in the last year or two. A recent review of LCD monitors placed the Apple on top but it was not the cheapest by far.
 
Just a quickie.

Unfortunately I would advise that entry level lcd panels even from name brands at the price level you indicate are just not in the same class as a similarly priced crt especially for the purposes that you'd use it for :-(

For work if youre using it for spreadsheets etc it would do wonders for eye strain tho!

Double your budget then you may be ok, and even then purists would point to calibration and dynamic range issues.

Not too helpful i'm afraid!

Mike Bee
Duncan Burt said:
Hi Fuji Friends

I'm in a bit of a dilemma here.

I'm debating whether to buy an LCD monitor.

The main reason for this jump into the unknown is that I think I'm
starting to really suffer from eye strain as I use a PC at work for
up to 8 hours a day, and then use my home PC for maybe up to a
couple of hours a night. Both my office pc and my home pc have flat
screen 17 inch CRT monitors.

So other than going to get my eyes tested for the first time in my
life, maybe middle age is catching me up :-), I'm trying to get an
LCD monitor for work as that the greatest exposure, but as the
price of LCD monitors is getting more sensible here in the UK, I'm
not deliberating getting one for home as well.

So that leads me to the all important question - how does an LCD
monitor compare with a CRT monitor for photo editing. The only
experience I have is with my laptop (Compaq - sorry Jay if you are
reading this :-) ) and I don't think that is a s good as using my
CRT monitor.

So who has upgraded / changed from a CRT monitor to an LCD monitor
and what are your views, especially relating to photo editing. I'm
not to worried about web surfing or office applications as I do
have some experience of these on other work PCs.

At the moment I'm looking at entry level 15 inch LCD, but from
major manufactures such as Iiyama , NEC Samsung etc, not the really
cheap no-name brands, but then again I'm not rich enough to go out
and get a 17 inch Sony or something like that.

Any feedback would be really great - I don't want to go out and
spend £250 - £00 on a monitor and find that its useless for editing
photos.

Thanks for reading this guys, and hopefully I'll hear from some of
the old faithfulls her as well as the many new folk on this forum.

--
Duncan
Birmingham, England
http://www.pbase.com/duncanburt
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http://www.pbase.com/mikebee
 
Hi Duncan,

I'm with Mike on this one. I like you spend all day in the office in-front of a 15' LCD which is supposedly equivelant to a 17' CRT. At home I use a decent Mitsubishi 17' CRT. I also wish to get an LCD for home use but all the 15' LCD's seem run at 1024 * 768 which is too restrictive for photo editing. Also the 15' LCD's I've used do not have the enough contrast or colour accuracy to perform a decent job with photo editing, however, they are a lot easier on the old eyes.

I actually find a 17' CRT too small and am looking for larger monitor at present; I can only just comfortably push my current monitor to 1152*864 at 100hz. I think the best solution is to wait a couple of years for the price of 17"" 18" LCD's to become more mainstream and also for the technology to improve and maybe to purchase a top quality 19" or 20" Ilyama or similar CRT in the interim. The space they take up in the home is annoyingly prohibitive for me though!!

Best of luck,

Greg
MikeBee said:
Unfortunately I would advise that entry level lcd panels even from
name brands at the price level you indicate are just not in the
same class as a similarly priced crt especially for the purposes
that you'd use it for :-(

For work if youre using it for spreadsheets etc it would do wonders
for eye strain tho!

Double your budget then you may be ok, and even then purists would
point to calibration and dynamic range issues.

Not too helpful i'm afraid!

Mike Bee
Duncan Burt said:
Hi Fuji Friends

I'm in a bit of a dilemma here.

I'm debating whether to buy an LCD monitor.

The main reason for this jump into the unknown is that I think I'm
starting to really suffer from eye strain as I use a PC at work for
up to 8 hours a day, and then use my home PC for maybe up to a
couple of hours a night. Both my office pc and my home pc have flat
screen 17 inch CRT monitors.

So other than going to get my eyes tested for the first time in my
life, maybe middle age is catching me up :-), I'm trying to get an
LCD monitor for work as that the greatest exposure, but as the
price of LCD monitors is getting more sensible here in the UK, I'm
not deliberating getting one for home as well.

So that leads me to the all important question - how does an LCD
monitor compare with a CRT monitor for photo editing. The only
experience I have is with my laptop (Compaq - sorry Jay if you are
reading this :-) ) and I don't think that is a s good as using my
CRT monitor.

So who has upgraded / changed from a CRT monitor to an LCD monitor
and what are your views, especially relating to photo editing. I'm
not to worried about web surfing or office applications as I do
have some experience of these on other work PCs.

At the moment I'm looking at entry level 15 inch LCD, but from
major manufactures such as Iiyama , NEC Samsung etc, not the really
cheap no-name brands, but then again I'm not rich enough to go out
and get a 17 inch Sony or something like that.

Any feedback would be really great - I don't want to go out and
spend £250 - £00 on a monitor and find that its useless for editing
photos.

Thanks for reading this guys, and hopefully I'll hear from some of
the old faithfulls her as well as the many new folk on this forum.

--
Duncan
Birmingham, England
http://www.pbase.com/duncanburt
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http://www.pbase.com/mikebee
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Greg Brammah said:
I'm with Mike on this one. I like you spend all day in the office
in-front of a 15' LCD which is supposedly equivelant to a 17' CRT.
At home I use a decent Mitsubishi 17' CRT. I also wish to get an
LCD for home use but all the 15' LCD's seem run at 1024 * 768 which
is too restrictive for photo editing. Also the 15' LCD's I've used
do not have the enough contrast or colour accuracy to perform a
decent job with photo editing, however, they are a lot easier on
the old eyes.

I actually find a 17' CRT too small and am looking for larger
monitor at present; I can only just comfortably push my current
monitor to 1152*864 at 100hz. I think the best solution is to wait
a couple of years for the price of 17"" 18" LCD's to become more
mainstream and also for the technology to improve and maybe to
purchase a top quality 19" or 20" Ilyama or similar CRT in the
interim. The space they take up in the home is annoyingly
prohibitive for me though!!

Best of luck,

Greg
MikeBee said:
Unfortunately I would advise that entry level lcd panels even from
name brands at the price level you indicate are just not in the
same class as a similarly priced crt especially for the purposes
that you'd use it for :-(

For work if youre using it for spreadsheets etc it would do wonders
for eye strain tho!

Double your budget then you may be ok, and even then purists would
point to calibration and dynamic range issues.

Not too helpful i'm afraid!

Mike Bee
Duncan Burt said:
Hi Fuji Friends

I'm in a bit of a dilemma here.

I'm debating whether to buy an LCD monitor.

The main reason for this jump into the unknown is that I think I'm
starting to really suffer from eye strain as I use a PC at work for
up to 8 hours a day, and then use my home PC for maybe up to a
couple of hours a night. Both my office pc and my home pc have flat
screen 17 inch CRT monitors.

So other than going to get my eyes tested for the first time in my
life, maybe middle age is catching me up :-), I'm trying to get an
LCD monitor for work as that the greatest exposure, but as the
price of LCD monitors is getting more sensible here in the UK, I'm
not deliberating getting one for home as well.

So that leads me to the all important question - how does an LCD
monitor compare with a CRT monitor for photo editing. The only
experience I have is with my laptop (Compaq - sorry Jay if you are
reading this :-) ) and I don't think that is a s good as using my
CRT monitor.

So who has upgraded / changed from a CRT monitor to an LCD monitor
and what are your views, especially relating to photo editing. I'm
not to worried about web surfing or office applications as I do
have some experience of these on other work PCs.

At the moment I'm looking at entry level 15 inch LCD, but from
major manufactures such as Iiyama , NEC Samsung etc, not the really
cheap no-name brands, but then again I'm not rich enough to go out
and get a 17 inch Sony or something like that.

Any feedback would be really great - I don't want to go out and
spend £250 - £00 on a monitor and find that its useless for editing
photos.

Thanks for reading this guys, and hopefully I'll hear from some of
the old faithfulls her as well as the many new folk on this forum.

--
Duncan
Birmingham, England
http://www.pbase.com/duncanburt
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http://www.pbase.com/mikebee
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Duncan Burt said:
Hi Fuji Friends

I'm in a bit of a dilemma here.

I'm debating whether to buy an LCD monitor.

The main reason for this jump into the unknown is that I think I'm
starting to really suffer from eye strain as I use a PC at work for
up to 8 hours a day, and then use my home PC for maybe up to a
couple of hours a night. Both my office pc and my home pc have flat
screen 17 inch CRT monitors.

So other than going to get my eyes tested for the first time in my
life, maybe middle age is catching me up :-), I'm trying to get an
LCD monitor for work as that the greatest exposure, but as the
price of LCD monitors is getting more sensible here in the UK, I'm
not deliberating getting one for home as well.
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Duncan Burt said:
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Duncan
Birmingham, England
http://www.pbase.com/duncanburt
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Honestly Duncan, I think this sentence of yours says it all.

So other than going to get my eyes tested for the first time in my life, maybe middle age is catching me up :-)
You really should get those eyes tested................ESP AT YOUR AGE...;-))
Kindest regards
filibuster
 
filibuster said:
Honestly Duncan, I think this sentence of yours says it all.
So other than going to get my eyes tested for the first time in my
life, maybe middle age is catching me up :-)
You really should get those eyes tested................ESP AT YOUR
AGE...;-))
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On yer bike mate :-)

I can't face you to that, I'm still in me 30s (just 1)

Bet you're no Spring Chicken !!!

Only kiddin' yer Keith - Good to hear from you again - raining over there as well ?

To all the other who replied so far. thanks for the input, I'll post more responses tonight - got to go to my German lesson now :-(
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Duncan
Birmingham, England
http://www.pbase.com/duncanburt
 
Hello Duncan,

I've a Dell LCD on a notebook and an inexpensive NEC CRT that I can compare side-by-side. While the Dell LCD is fairly good relative to others I've checked, it does not compare to the CRT in color gamut or resolving brightness/contrast.

I've been using the contrast bars in this forum's reviews to test LCD's at computer stores. Gateway's LCD's are terrible, resolving far fewer than my three year-old Dell. New, on the shelf LCD's from third parties are comparable to my Dell. The only displays I've seen that is better than the Dell (and comparable to my CRT) are the big Apple LCD's for their desktops. The 22 inch ($2500. US) resolves all the contrast bars and is tack-sharp. If one has an extra $1000. a 23 inch is available! IMO the Apple notebook LCD's are comparable to my Dell's. And, they have no contrast or color adjustments (according the the Apple rep in the store), only brightness. I can adjust color, brightness and contrast on my Dell (ATI graphics).

That said, I still find myself using my notebook for photo editing!

Timothy Dunnigan
http://www.pbase.com/tdunnigan/
Duncan Burt said:
Hi Fuji Friends

I'm in a bit of a dilemma here.

I'm debating whether to buy an LCD monitor.

The main reason for this jump into the unknown is that I think I'm
starting to really suffer from eye strain as I use a PC at work for
up to 8 hours a day, and then use my home PC for maybe up to a
couple of hours a night. Both my office pc and my home pc have flat
screen 17 inch CRT monitors.

So other than going to get my eyes tested for the first time in my
life, maybe middle age is catching me up :-), I'm trying to get an
LCD monitor for work as that the greatest exposure, but as the
price of LCD monitors is getting more sensible here in the UK, I'm
not deliberating getting one for home as well.

So that leads me to the all important question - how does an LCD
monitor compare with a CRT monitor for photo editing. The only
experience I have is with my laptop (Compaq - sorry Jay if you are
reading this :-) ) and I don't think that is a s good as using my
CRT monitor.

So who has upgraded / changed from a CRT monitor to an LCD monitor
and what are your views, especially relating to photo editing. I'm
not to worried about web surfing or office applications as I do
have some experience of these on other work PCs.

At the moment I'm looking at entry level 15 inch LCD, but from
major manufactures such as Iiyama , NEC Samsung etc, not the really
cheap no-name brands, but then again I'm not rich enough to go out
and get a 17 inch Sony or something like that.

Any feedback would be really great - I don't want to go out and
spend £250 - £00 on a monitor and find that its useless for editing
photos.

Thanks for reading this guys, and hopefully I'll hear from some of
the old faithfulls her as well as the many new folk on this forum.

--
Duncan
Birmingham, England
http://www.pbase.com/duncanburt
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Hi Duncan,

I just saw a nice Sony LCD. It’s about 24” wide and you can change the resolution settings. Just $3000. ;) Now to the real world: Most of the LCD monitors out there that I’ve seen are small or expensive. They only work well at ONE resolution that they’ve been designed for (except the $3000 Sony!) You can get a high res 19” monitor cheap: maybe $180. Bigger is definitely better. You could even go to two monitors! 2x $180 +$100 ( for a 2nd video card) =$460. Still cheaper than LCDs or 21” monitors. And much bigger!

There’s a great ergonomics site: http://www.office-ergo.com/setting.htm , that has lots of info that might help you.

Sitting at least 24” away from the screen if one. A BIG monitor of course helps with that.

What they also suggest, and what I’ve just tried at work ( and am now going to design a desk for home to do the same thing ) is I’ve placed my monitor 10” LOWER than the desk surface, with it tilted back about 28 degrees. Try it: it’s great. Much easier on the neck, and your eyes focus easier with it like this. This position mimics how we read a magazine or book. It’s more natural.

Best of luck,
Jack
Duncan Burt said:
Hi Fuji Friends

I'm in a bit of a dilemma here.

I'm debating whether to buy an LCD monitor.

The main reason for this jump into the unknown is that I think I'm
starting to really suffer from eye strain as I use a PC at work for
up to 8 hours a day, and then use my home PC for maybe up to a
couple of hours a night. Both my office pc and my home pc have flat
screen 17 inch CRT monitors.

So other than going to get my eyes tested for the first time in my
life, maybe middle age is catching me up :-), I'm trying to get an
LCD monitor for work as that the greatest exposure, but as the
price of LCD monitors is getting more sensible here in the UK, I'm
not deliberating getting one for home as well.

So that leads me to the all important question - how does an LCD
monitor compare with a CRT monitor for photo editing. The only
experience I have is with my laptop (Compaq - sorry Jay if you are
reading this :-) ) and I don't think that is a s good as using my
CRT monitor.

So who has upgraded / changed from a CRT monitor to an LCD monitor
and what are your views, especially relating to photo editing. I'm
not to worried about web surfing or office applications as I do
have some experience of these on other work PCs.

At the moment I'm looking at entry level 15 inch LCD, but from
major manufactures such as Iiyama , NEC Samsung etc, not the really
cheap no-name brands, but then again I'm not rich enough to go out
and get a 17 inch Sony or something like that.

Any feedback would be really great - I don't want to go out and
spend £250 - £00 on a monitor and find that its useless for editing
photos.

Thanks for reading this guys, and hopefully I'll hear from some of
the old faithfulls her as well as the many new folk on this forum.

--
Duncan
Birmingham, England
http://www.pbase.com/duncanburt
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Jared Hunter said:
You sure you're running the video at the optimal refresh rate? I
run my work and home monitors at 85Hz. Anything lower than 75Hz I
quickly feel the eye strain.
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Yep I agree, my office monitor is running at 85 Hz as is my home monitor
Jared Hunter said:
Jared Hunter said:
So that leads me to the all important question - how does an LCD
monitor compare with a CRT monitor for photo editing. The only
experience I have is with my laptop (Compaq - sorry Jay if you are
reading this :-) ) and I don't think that is a s good as using my
CRT monitor.
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IMO, LCD is completely inadequate for photo editing. I have another
system setup at home with dual monitors, one LCD and the other CRT.
Affordable LCDs are only 1024x768. That alone makes editing
cumbersome not to mention the lower dynamic range in comparison to
CRT.
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I run my 17" monitors at 1024 x 768 and I'm quite used to that so the native resolution of an LCD would not be a problem
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Duncan
Birmingham, England
http://www.pbase.com/duncanburt
 
Member said:
I switched from a 17 inch CRT monitor to an Apple 15 inch monitor
and just love it. I don't notice any problems in processing my
pictures but I am far from a professional and the purists will tell
you that the color accuracy is better on a CRT. However, I love the
space savings, the energy savings, the reduction in heat and last,
but not least, it is a lot easier on the eyes. A review of LCD
monitors was performed in a well known magazine a few months back
(can't remember the name) and one comment the reviewers had was
that "after reviewing and staring at the LCD monitors on and off
for two days EVERONE commented on the fact that their eyes diddn't
bother near as much as when the reviewed CRT monitors. The LCD
monitors have improved greatly in the last year or two. A recent
review of LCD monitors placed the Apple on top but it was not the
cheapest by far.
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So a differnce of opinion here

I going to push to get and LCD for work, word excel powerpoint etc and mabe I'll try and get an LCD for home from a vendor with a flexible return policy, then I can compare it directly with my NEC CRT monitor.
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Duncan
Birmingham, England
http://www.pbase.com/duncanburt
 
MikeBee said:
Just a quickie.

Unfortunately I would advise that entry level lcd panels even from
name brands at the price level you indicate are just not in the
same class as a similarly priced crt especially for the purposes
that you'd use it for :-(

For work if youre using it for spreadsheets etc it would do wonders
for eye strain tho!

Double your budget then you may be ok, and even then purists would
point to calibration and dynamic range issues.

Not too helpful i'm afraid!

Mike Bee
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I'm begining to think the same thing, esp. about dynamic range and colour calibration. Thats what I had heard in the past and was checking out the current views here.
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Duncan
Birmingham, England
http://www.pbase.com/duncanburt
 
Jack Tintera said:
Hi Duncan,

I just saw a nice Sony LCD. It’s about 24” wide and
you can change the resolution settings. Just $3000. ;) Now to
the real world: Most of the LCD monitors out there that I’ve
seen are small or expensive. They only work well at ONE resolution
that they’ve been designed for (except the $3000 Sony!) You
can get a high res 19” monitor cheap: maybe $180. Bigger is
definitely better. You could even go to two monitors! 2x $180
+$100 ( for a 2nd video card) =$460. Still cheaper than LCDs or
21” monitors. And much bigger!

There’s a great ergonomics site:
http://www.office-ergo.com/setting.htm , that has lots of info that
might help you.
Sitting at least 24” away from the screen if one. A BIG
monitor of course helps with that.

What they also suggest, and what I’ve just tried at work (
and am now going to design a desk for home to do the same thing )
is I’ve placed my monitor 10” LOWER than the desk
surface, with it tilted back about 28 degrees. Try it: it’s
great. Much easier on the neck, and your eyes focus easier with it
like this. This position mimics how we read a magazine or book.
It’s more natural.

Best of luck,
Jack
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Thanks for that link Jack, I'll check out what I can do with ergonomics

I can't change the position of my monitor either at work or at home, but maybe there is something else I can try.

Off to have a look now
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Duncan
Birmingham, England
http://www.pbase.com/duncanburt
 
Hi Duncan,

I would'nt be a bad idea to have your eyes checked, but here are more ideas that might help no matter what you do:

These computer problems are becoming a BIG problem in the USA. We have government agencies (OSHA) etc concerned. I've also had eye strain. I know what its like to "crawl" into the computer screen when your designing something in CAD! Hours go by. Your eyes bug out of your head.

They suugest to take breaks often. Every 1/2 hr or so focus on something in the distance. Sit at least 24-25" away from the screen. Make the fonts bigger if you need to so you don't strain. I use a big monitor and set the res high, then adjust the fonts to suit. Studies have been done (refer to that ergonomics site) that show humans can focus easier looking down.

Glare from lighting is another big source of problems. There's lots of info on the subject, but the jist is to make it soothing on your eyes.

I cheated at work: I have a "L" desk with an 18" wide leaf. I got a shelf and put it behind the desk-and the monitor on that-10" lower than the desk-then propped up the front of the monitor base to tip it back-about 25-28 degrees. Jury rig. I love it.

At home I have a high res (1400 x 768?) 15" laptop, and a flat screen Sony 19" (1600 x 1200) monitor off of that at the same time. The Sony is the best.

Hope this helps some.

Jack
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Duncan Burt said:
I have come to the conclusion that unless I can get on on "trial" -
no quibble return policy then I'm going to wait a while, get my
eyes tested and live with my NEC CRT for the time being, that is
unless someones can direct me otherwise !!!!!

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Duncan
Birmingham, England
http://www.pbase.com/duncanburt
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Jack

Any chance you could post a picture of your setup. It sounds interesting, but I just cant picture in my mind what it would look like.
Lynn
 
Lynn,

Wish I could. Right now I've got Windows NT 4.0, and it doesn't support USB, so until my company gets something that works, I'm unable to.

The rube goldberg set up is: just picture a thin (18" deep) desk-29" high. Now put the monitor on a table or shelf etc that's 19" high-behind the desk. Now you have the monitor 10" lower. I had to prop up the underside of the monitor base to get it tilted back.

That's why I want to build a desk with all that built in. They have some desks in the stores like this also. Some even have the monitor "under glass" -below the desk surface-like the TV announcers do, but I think thats too much.
Maybe a few months from now I'll build that desk, and post a picture.
Let me know if this helps.

Jack
Lynn C said:
Jack
Any chance you could post a picture of your setup. It sounds
interesting, but I just cant picture in my mind what it would look
like.
Lynn
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