Lazy Photographers

[Hollie]

I take a lot of indoor flash night shots of people. Most posters here don't. I think I have a frame/flash/hot shoe contraption that will work with the 2100 I ordered and perhaps even the D-40. I've seen yours and other excellent pix with the D-40 but their are so many negative comments, even user comments, on the review, it made me scared to get one. It sure took good sharp prints for you though. Does it have a synch terminal for flash? Do you have problems with bad CA or blooming? and why is the E100rs so popular, I know it has IS and AF Assist but it looks like a 2100 UZI otherwise. Please help me decide!!!

If these photos of yours were clueless, you have a great camera. I saw a lot of artistic shots with artistic and funny captions.

I want a small camera like the D-40 and everyone posting here seems to have 3 or 4 Olys. Please tell me about it.
Thanks,
Hollie

Regards,

Willa
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Please tell...when do you use which camera and how do you like the
D 40 compared to your other cameras?

thx,
Hollie

Willa
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BillyBoy02 wrote:

Judy, one way I judge a picture is how it holds up to the test of
time. 10 years from now are you going to find a picture of a cow
interesting or a duck in a pond. If you've seen one picture of a
duck swimming in a pond you've seen them all....

So I suppose if you seen one hippo, you've seen them all also,
right?...



Zoo photography can be a challenge to have the animal appear to be
in the wild...also walking around the Toronto Zoo is hardly a lazy
way to spend a day, I almost wore my shoes out walking around that
zoo...that place is huge!...

Besides, I don't think we have any hippos or lions in our neck of
the woods...

I sure wish I had my Uzi 20 years ago when I was on a safari in
Kenya Africa...

Here's some pics I took with my old Minolta 110 camera on that
safari, now that was lazy, riding around in a mini bus...

http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=25520&uid=18055

Bob

 

['UZ'pShoot'ERS']

you have no clue of what wild in refference to animals means & I don't fear wild animals I respect thier capabilities & unpredictabilities...especially when scared & cornered....Not to metion a frequent viewing of mostly wildlife TV...I'd be willing to hazzard a guess that even an imature black could wreak havok on a human if he gets his paws on one....

so you beleive it's dangerous to go in the woods because of black
bears ? weenie alert !

Just be aware that wild animals are just that: wild. Bears,
because of their size and strength are potentially dangerous and
must be respected.

Please read this before making blanket assumptions about Black Bears:
http://smokymtns.com/bearkill.htm
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[Willa]

Yikes! Now there's a wild critter! I don't EVER want to touch one of those!

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(learning every day)

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[Victor T]

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[knucklehead]

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[BillyBoy02]

man, you people like to lump all photos into one category ( all of them are same,they all have vision,content,purpose etc etc) take a look at some of these studpi cow pictures (which is why I started the post,don't want to get off subject) tell me the vision etc about these pictures. You guys just can't say one photo is better then another. Your doing a disservice to the really good photographers here.

I capture my photo wherever I can. The first Night Heron photo is
wild while the second is captive. If I had not practiced my
methods at the zoo, I would not have had the knowledge from the
first shoot to bring home the second photo as shooting in the wild
dose have it?s challenges.

For many of us getting out in the wild is a limited opportunity. I
love to shoot in the wild, but living in New York City and having a
full time job as well as a family limits this opportunity. Once or
twice a year I can afford the opportunity to go into the woods for
a week or two and work in the wild. There are marshes in the City
and I do visit them. Otherwise my opportunity to shoot wildlife is
limited to the Zoo. Do you propose that I park my camera most of
the year Billy?

nope, take photos of what you can,like buildings,urban things. I
bet you can come up with challenging things then say someone in the
country taking a pix of a cow in a pasture

Practice makes perfect and I love to practice and

bring home images that I can share with others.

Morris

Ps. Both photos taken with a Canon G1 + Olympus B-300. The second
is 2x up sampled in PhotoShop and cropped. The second filled the
frame as is.

Is this really a challenge and is it interesting to take photos of
fenced in animals ? How about getting the hiking shoes out and take
some pictures of "wild" animals that are seldom seen. These
domesticsted animals have all been photographed to death and are
quite boring to me. What do you think ?

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[Daniella68313]

I agree to some extend..but to me a photo of a bear face close up..is a photo of a bear face close-up...taken at the zoo or in nature..it is either good or bad for sharpness and composition but the location change little in the overall photo.

If you are lucky enough to be able to get close enough with good equipement to capture a nice and sharp Grissly bear close up..then that's great..the zoo is a nice and safe alternative.

Surely there are lots of advantage to take animals in the wild..but generaly, unlesse you are a pro photographer with pro equipement..it means to have lesser quality photo for most of us. I have been facing bears 2 time from quite close distance and i cannot say that i am more happy about those photos than i am about those polar bear photos i took from the SF zoo.

Even photos of pets would be interesting if only people woudl take the time to think about the compositon and what they are doing..mostly those photos are snap shots done on the impulse of the monent and that is what makes them boring..not the location nor the subject.

I cannot deny that i have a certain pride in my wild animal photos, like the bear shot i took from about 6 feet of the bear...but the photos are not the best i did, taken with a Canon SLR:

http://www.pbase.com/zylen/slr

I am very happy though..the way this photo of an owl turned out, even if it was cought in a rescue shelter:

http://www.pbase.com/image/2163960

Just my thoughts.

Is this really a challenge and is it interesting to take photos of
fenced in animals ? How about getting the hiking shoes out and take
some pictures of "wild" animals that are seldom seen. These
domesticsted animals have all been photographed to death and are
quite boring to me. What do you think ?

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[BillyBoy02]

if you think "scared and cornered" should be connected in anyway with "telephoto lens from a distance" then I can't help you over this hurdle....

so you beleive it's dangerous to go in the woods because of black
bears ? weenie alert !

Just be aware that wild animals are just that: wild. Bears,
because of their size and strength are potentially dangerous and
must be respected.

Please read this before making blanket assumptions about Black Bears:
http://smokymtns.com/bearkill.htm
****

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'Happy Shootin' !!!
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Me & My UZI, Strollin Down The Avenue. Me & My UZI, Focusin On
Somethin New. To 'UZe' Or Not To 'UZe'? That 'IS' The Question. Ask
not what your Uzi can do for you but what you can do for your Uzi
c2100uz/e100rs (in that order) & a B-300

--
'Happy Shootin' !!!
'UZ'P'Shoot'ERS'
http://www.pbase.com/rrawzz
http://www.pbase.com/otfgallery/uzpshooter
Me & My UZI, Strollin Down The Avenue. Me & My UZI, Focusin On
Somethin New. To 'UZe' Or Not To 'UZe'? That 'IS' The Question. Ask
not what your Uzi can do for you but what you can do for your Uzi
c2100uz/e100rs (in that order) & a B-300

--
'Happy Shootin' !!!
'UZ'P'Shoot'ERS'
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http://www.pbase.com/otfgallery/uzpshooter
Me & My UZI, Strollin Down The Avenue. Me & My UZI, Focusin On
Somethin New. To 'UZe' Or Not To 'UZe'? That 'IS' The Question. Ask
not what your Uzi can do for you but what you can do for your Uzi
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['UZ'pShoot'ERS']

No..there have been plenty that say a pic doesn't do anything for them but they don't base a whole thread on it afterwards...there's a big difference & they normally don't say contradictory things to justify the thread....& for the most part some don't even click on it if they sense what it is from the subject line...Like I probably did....I almost did that with this thread too....LOL You're still in the dark...But don't get me wrong there are plenty that sugar coat too...But not all"OF You People"

 

[Daniella68313]

Actually you can have some pleasant surprise, even in photo of ducs...Also that's is where creativity comes into play...and luck of course. Some time just a small element makes a plain duck photo interesting. I liked this one for the wierd reflection, but there can be other details that make one duck photo very special:

http://www.pbase.com/image/1266058

Or some time a wierd shadow can make it all:

http://www.pbase.com/image/1979004

those 2 subjects can become very interesting or even unusual if someone pay attention to details.

BillyBoy -

Some folks don't live in areas where wild amimals abound. It's
difficult to find critters - period. There's a challenge in any
photo including the squirrels, ducks, dogs, cats, kids, barns,
flowers, etc. etc. etc.

It's not so much what you photograph but how you envision the subject.

What may be beautiful to you may be so-so to me. That's the fun of
photography...the challenge is to try to portray a subject in the
most pleasing way each individual eye views it.

Judy

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[Daniella68313]

LOL...i never wore my shoes for just one day walk...but i suppose i have sturdy shoes. I aggree with you though..taking animal in zoo can be challanging...Animals in zoo are usually letargic and sleepy...getting them to do somethign interesting can be a real challange.

BillyBoy02 wrote:

Judy, one way I judge a picture is how it holds up to the test of
time. 10 years from now are you going to find a picture of a cow
interesting or a duck in a pond. If you've seen one picture of a
duck swimming in a pond you've seen them all....

So I suppose if you seen one hippo, you've seen them all also,
right?...



Zoo photography can be a challenge to have the animal appear to be
in the wild...also walking around the Toronto Zoo is hardly a lazy
way to spend a day, I almost wore my shoes out walking around that
zoo...that place is huge!...

Besides, I don't think we have any hippos or lions in our neck of
the woods...

I sure wish I had my Uzi 20 years ago when I was on a safari in
Kenya Africa...

Here's some pics I took with my old Minolta 110 camera on that
safari, now that was lazy, riding around in a mini bus...

http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=25520&uid=18055

Bob

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[BillyBoy02]

I'm not anti cow, the photo that "Dan the Amish Photographer"toke of some cows were good. You showed the big bags hanging down filled with milk. But a couple other pictures of cows taken about that same day were void of anything special ,these are the ones I'm talkiing about.

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What if the Hokey Pokey is 'what it's all about?' If not, 'they'
need to make 'them' stop making that claim!
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[Daniella68313]

was milking him? i did not know that male cow had milk ))

that is surely a rare specimen you captured...even more rare than the rare wild cougar ! ))

I have to agree with you there Bill but there's an interesting
story that goes with this cow...

Seems that last week a bee flew into it's ear...

Well, the next day the farmer was milking him and the bee turned up
in the bottle of milk...
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
In one ear and out the udder... ;> )

Wait till you see Ergos photos with sheep...
Now those are interesting....

Bob

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[Dirk Vermeirre]

Hi Billy Boy,

I would be very glad if you would take time to take a look at my pictures of captivated animals (I prefer them being in the wild, but that's not my choise) and tell me how boring you find these an a scale from 1 to 10. I like them very much and living in a country that has very few animals in the wild (except birds, rats and mouses) I'm glad that a Zoo gives me the possibility to make interesting pictures of other animals to.

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With very kind regards,

Dirk

 

[BillyBoy02]

Daniella, I conceded to Bob S in one of the first threads in the post that not all duck photo are dull. Yours is very nicely done, I like the waves in the water. You people are wearing me out,I'm taking some time off to watch the US Open and take a walk I'll be back for round 3 later

http://www.pbase.com/image/1266058

Or some time a wierd shadow can make it all:

http://www.pbase.com/image/1979004

those 2 subjects can become very interesting or even unusual if
someone pay attention to details.

BillyBoy -

Some folks don't live in areas where wild amimals abound. It's
difficult to find critters - period. There's a challenge in any
photo including the squirrels, ducks, dogs, cats, kids, barns,
flowers, etc. etc. etc.

It's not so much what you photograph but how you envision the subject.

What may be beautiful to you may be so-so to me. That's the fun of
photography...the challenge is to try to portray a subject in the
most pleasing way each individual eye views it.

Judy

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[knucklehead]

that is surely a rare specimen you captured...even more rare than
the rare wild cougar ! ))

I have to agree with you there Bill but there's an interesting
story that goes with this cow...

Seems that last week a bee flew into it's ear...

Well, the next day the farmer was milking him and the bee turned up
in the bottle of milk...
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
In one ear and out the udder... ;> )

Wait till you see Ergos photos with sheep...
Now those are interesting....

Bob

--
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[Daniella68313]

I think you just put your finger on the real thing...

the original post was about something else as animals taken in the wild are more interesting photos and i disagree..at least for amaters, the photos taken in the wild will probably just quick and some time very quick snap shots, either in fear of the animal getting away or in fear of being eated by your photographic subject.

I captured also this coyotee on a trail..he was jumping in the air to catch a mouse...but is the photo more interesting that this nice monkey photo that i saw, taken from a zoo, of a mother monkey holding her baby?

http://www.pbase.com/image/624064

I do lots of hiking...and i have been in many places in USA...I have seen many wild animals but taking good photo of them is near to impossible..because you do not plan. Now i may be wrong..but pro photographer spend lots of time spotting wild animals to get the shots that they are getting...mostly this is out of consumer reach. I have been hiking all over the state, but rare are the occasions where you can have a good photo of a wild animal..even if you are not lazy...and even more rare are the occasions where in those occasion you have good light condition..as most wild animals are coming out at night...I saw a nice bobcat, but it was at night.

Never saw a cougar...saw lots of deers...those are incredibly easy to take in photo here in California..but in MOntreal those same deers woudl be the greatest challange as they "fly" away as soon as they get a sniff of human sent...

http://www.pbase.com/image/1423086

Regards to all,

Willa

Well no one said you had to look at them.

I for one would love to get out and take wild animals in there
natural habitat but I just can not get that fare out in the time I
get to spend taking pictures.

Oh could you please post some pictures of your MEERKAT
http://www.pbase.com/image/2079934

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[HG83674]

Such anger, you never did say what city you live in.,
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I've worked and also lived in Alaska for 25 years and to suggest that a novice Photographer should go looking for a bear encounter armed with a 10X zoom camera is moronic at best. You don't try to sneak up on a bear armed with a camera. Most of the time that bear knows your there and will give you leeway only to a certain point. Wild bears will attack for different reasons, suprise, territorial defense, protecting cubs and in rare cases for food. A bear has a very good sense of smell but very poor eyersight and it's his poor eyesight that will get you in trouble in a close incounter. If you bump into a bear and he's none aggressive and knows your there by all means take a snapshot but don't stalk him as you better believe he has set a boundry of safety for you.
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[Daniella68313]

yaaaahhhhh sooo boring...i can't help but to fall asleep let me yan for a bit...

Hi Billy Boy,

I would be very glad if you would take time to take a look at my
pictures of captivated animals (I prefer them being in the wild,
but that's not my choise) and tell me how boring you find these an
a scale from 1 to 10. I like them very much and living in a country
that has very few animals in the wild (except birds, rats and
mouses) I'm glad that a Zoo gives me the possibility to make
interesting pictures of other animals to.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1008&message=2868995

With very kind regards,

Dirk

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[Julio Y.]

I've refrained from getting involved in this ridiculous argument til now. But, just so you're sure about one thing: you can't possibly pull ahead because this was a totally ridiculous argument to begin with. In other words, the premise is so dumb that it's impossible with even the most intelligent and eloquent of speeches to rise above the dumbness of the original statement! As for not respecting wild black bears, that's just plain lunacy. I pray that we don't read about you one of these days, BillyBoy!

If you've spent time in the woods you would know that other then
seeing a grizzly bear your common black bear is not a threat. They
are like any other animal,they want to get away just like any other
animal would.

this really irritates me this attitude. You are a product of
hollywood and the silly way they portray threats from animals in
the wild. I've seen a total of about 7 bears in the wild and you
really have to bend over backwards to get one to attack you besides
I'm talking about taking a photo of them with a tele photo lens at
a distance ,god keep watching the hollywood movies and being
scared of things in the woods !!!

I'm sorry, that statement shows how little you know about bears. If

you lived around bears like I do, then you would know, that you
show the Black Bear, the same respect that you would a Grizzly.

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Victor T

Seven whole bears, WOW, that makes you quite the expert. For your
info, more people have been killed and eaten by Black Bears in
Alaska, than by Grizzlies. So which city did you say you lived in.
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