K10D!!! But, *this* is NOT there...

[arnelie]

Does not have anything to do with computers, but with studio flashes. USB Highspeed is supported, so relax...

Does that mean I can't connect it directly via a USB cable to a
mobile HD storage device? That would suck on travels .

 

[Katsura]

Thanks for the explanation

 

[geoffcole]

• you have to take the winder off to get the body battery out to

charge it

Same as the D but, I am assuming like the D, you don't need to have
a battery in the camera.

If I remember what was said correctly, the D-Li50 battery would stay in the body even with the grip attached -- so to charge the in-body battery you'd have to do one of several things:

a) take off the grip to remove the in-body battery

b) charge the in-body battery through the camera's own charger interface

c) have three or even four D-Li50 batteries: one in the body, one in the grip, and two on charger(s).

-- there's no provision at this stage for the grip insert to be fitted with CRV3 or AA batts, but seeing as it is an insert, presumably it wouldn't be to hard for Pentax or a third party to design a two or three alternative inserts -- say one model to hold two D-Li50s, and a second to hold two or three CRV3 or four or six AA.

... of course Nikon have a really interesting concept for emergency use in the field: a battery shell for use in D70 and D70s that can take three 3-volt CR2 batteries -- as shown here:
http://www.nikon.com.au/productitem.php?pid=205-0ca406f074

... and the other main examples in the same vein being:

Nikon MB-D200 battery-pack for the D200 ( http://www.nikon.com.au/productitem.php?pid=831-2b02de57d5 ) that can take two proprietary Nikon batts, or 6 AAs through use of MS-D200 insert ( http://www.nikon.com.au/productitem.php?pid=846-ec993841a2 )

Nikon MB-D100 battery pack for the D100 that holds six AA batteries ( http://www.nikon.com.au/productitem.php?pid=209-6a513dff06 )

Canon BGM-E2 AA-battery adapter for the BG-E2 and BG-E4 battery grips on the 30D and 5D ( http://www.canon.com.au/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos30d.html http://www.canon.com.au/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos5d.html )

-- all of which suggest that if Pentax wanted to provide facilities to use standard battery types such as CR2, CRV3, or (preferrably) AA in an emergency, they could do so by providing a range of different battery-pack inserts for the D-BG2 grip.

Only question though is: are such option in the pipeline or being considered for debut alongside the K10D?

 

[ptodd]

Does that mean I can't connect it directly via a USB cable to a
mobile HD storage device? That would suck on travels .

Even if it was the case, one can get a very small SD card reader and use that. I still prefer that, especially for travel, because it doesn't use up the camera's battery.

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[ptodd]

You can have program shift in the Sv - sensitivity priority - mode
if you turn it on in the custom menu "Ev dial in Sv mode".

Thanks. I guess that works fine, but it seems strange to miss out the SAv (or whatever it would be called) permutation.

Cheers,
Peter

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[leorimkus]

• Goodbye AA batteries

Biggest loss for me...

• Goodbye TTL Flash (only P-TTL supported)

Also not good. But reduces price.

• No native PC Synch

There are a lot of other posibilities to control studio light, so I think this isn't important.

• Goodbye ISO 3200

The same with competitors. I worry more if ISO800 will be usable. I use it often on DS, but 1600 is too moisy for me. 3200 isn't usable at all.

But this list is short, though...

Unsure:

• Hello (long time since) PowerZoom (due to the USM connectors)?

I think this is a mistake in american specs. All other sources say, that PZ isn't supported. These contacts would be used for USM.

Anyone having additional items to this/these list(s), corrections?

• arne

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[leorimkus]

You are right except that it was Sony who decided. And all the buyers of theis sensors had to accept that. I doubt, that K10D has different sensor than a100, D80 and D200. Maybe some modification of it, but basicaly the same (looks like D200 and D80 sensors are a bit different, but still have the same base).

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[ngap]

• you have to take the winder off to get the body battery out to

charge it

Same as the D but, I am assuming like the D, you don't need to have
a battery in the camera.

If I remember what was said correctly, the D-Li50 battery would
stay in the body even with the grip attached -- so to charge the
in-body battery you'd have to do one of several things:

a) take off the grip to remove the in-body battery

b) charge the in-body battery through the camera's own charger
interface

c) have three or even four D-Li50 batteries: one in the body, one
in the grip, and two on charger(s).

Or with Pentax, one in the grip, one in your bag or pocket and two in the charger and none in the body.

But why do you have to have one in the body?
Is it any different to the D?

If not, then there is no need to take it out of the body as there is no need for it to be in there.

If they are saying to have two batteries in the camera at once, then it is a fair comment. It is a matter of are you using the grip to increase battery life, then you need to store the second battery out of the camera if you don't want to take the grip off.

If you are using it as a vertical grip, then it makes no difference. I have used both sorts in the past and prefered the PEntax system. But then I have used it as vertical grip, rather than for extending the battery capacity.

 

[RoscoT]

shane gerrish wrote:

But why do you have to have one in the body?
Is it any different to the D?

Evidently, with both batteries you double the shot capacity.
--
Rosco
Terminal Stage LBA
http://www.pbase.com/roscot

 

[ngap]

shane gerrish wrote:

But why do you have to have one in the body?
Is it any different to the D?

Evidently, with both batteries you double the shot capacity.
--
Rosco
Terminal Stage LBA
http://www.pbase.com/roscot

And if that is the reason for using it, then yes it is the option of having one in the grip and one in your pocket is not as good as two in the pack.

Can you work the Canon and Nikon ones, with only one battery in the grip?

 

[Tyne]

In german version of specification PowerZoom is supported too

 

[ptodd]

A dedicated control for metering mode... would've preferred that, rather than the one for AF point selection.

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[Frank C.]

K10D best dSLR ever (at least from Pentax), but with the following
limitations (compared to *ist-D):

• Goodbye TTL Flash (only P-TTL supported)

ok, enlighten me, what is the difference TTL vs P-TTL? thx

 

[Sweets]

see also http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=20008183
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rgrds. Henk (*istD&DBG-1).

 

[ngap]

Metering modes are on a switch, next to the mode button, not in menus

 

[ngap]

P-TTL uses a preflash to determine exposure like in the Nikon and Canon DSLRs

TTL does not require a preflash and has been around for years.

 

[pentaxowner]

For me it's not question of price. It's more question where to recharge my battery when I am somewhere out in wild. I do have only limited access to electricity. With my Maha charger I charge one set in hour, how will it take for propertiary charger to do? At least I would love to see AA batteries in grip ((
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Fero, London
My blog: http://feronovak.blogspot.com/index.html

 

[ptodd]

Metering modes are on a switch, next to the mode button, not in menus

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[leorimkus]

And P-TTL doesn't work with manual lenses

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[JensR]

Hi Arne!

• Goodbye AA batteries

double #sigh#

• Goodbye TTL Flash (only P-TTL supported)

double #sigh#

• No native PC Synch

Don't care

• Goodbye ISO 3200

Let's see how pushable ISO 1600 is, I fear not too much.

But this list is short, though...

Short, but some very important points for some...

Cheers
Jens

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'Well, 'Zooming with your feet' is usually a stupid thing as zoom rings are designed for hands.' (Me, 2006)
http://www.jensroesner.de/