In camera processing - bigger screen?

[Xshooter]

This may be a stupid question, apologies if it is, but having used the Fuji in-camera processing software (which is a very welcome free bonus for us all!) I sometimes struggle to see the pros and cons of the processing changes on the small LCD screen. Is it possible to conduct the in-camera processing while somehow connecting the camera to a larger (calibrated perhaps) external screen or laptop? It would then be easier to see which film simulation is right for circumstance or where shadows or highlights could require adjusting. Cheers

 

[Xshooter]

By the way I don't have LR which perhaps has Fuji film simulations in it already. I use mostly jpegs, but use the in camera processing sometimes. I have Iridient too.

 

[Vic Chapman]

By the way I don't have LR which perhaps has Fuji film simulations in it already. I use mostly jpegs, but use the in camera processing sometimes. I have Iridient too.

I think LR is the editor to which the XT2 can be tethered but if you're tethered to LR you might as well use it for processing.

You can use camera remote to view the image and take the image, including settings apart from zoom obviously. Not sure whether you have access to normal playback and in-camera processing. If you do then that would be the way to go, to take and process images on a tablet.

 

[cantanima bis]

If you ask me, that's what the HDMI out port is for! I've been hooking up my camera to a 32" TV for several years now. When back at home, it's much, much nicer than using the LCD screen, and the results are better than anything I can accomplish in external software.

 

[Xshooter]

Ah, good one! The only downside (if there is one) is that a TV colour may not be calibrated the same as a monitor for photo purposes, but yes a HDMI to the TV would be a great help as the LCD screen is v small to edit in.

 

[Cliff Fujii]

By the way I don't have LR which perhaps has Fuji film simulations in it already. I use mostly jpegs, but use the in camera processing sometimes. I have Iridient too.

If you have an X-T2 with firmware 1.10, then you can purchase HS-V5 1.1 (compatible with the X-T1), from FujiFilm, Amazon.com, or Adorama. Then upgrade (free) it to version 1.3 so that it's compatible with the X-T2. This will allow you to connect your X-T2 to your laptop and also to control it from your laptop.

 

[Vic Chapman]

Ah, good one! The only downside (if there is one) is that a TV colour may not be calibrated the same as a monitor for photo purposes, but yes a HDMI to the TV would be a great help as the LCD screen is v small to edit in.

If you're going that far, you can't beat a quality calibrated monitor/screen.

 

[Xshooter]

Cliff, I have X-Pro2 which doesn't support tethering.

 

[Xshooter]

So Vic, will I be able to successfully connect my X-Pro2 to an external monitor via a HDMI and still be able to do in-camera processing? I know the X-Pro doesn't support tethering but this external connection to monitor may be different, I don't know.

 

[Cliff Fujii]

Cliff, I have X-Pro2 which doesn't support tethering.

You are absolutely right. You didn't mention what camera you wanted to tether in your original post so I gave a generic answer.

 

[Vic Chapman]

So Vic, will I be able to successfully connect my X-Pro2 to an external monitor via a HDMI and still be able to do in-camera processing? I know the X-Pro doesn't support tethering but this external connection to monitor may be different, I don't know.

I can't answer that - I'm not even sure you can do the processing on a tablet using the cameras pp. Someone more technically minded than I will be along with the answer soon I'm sure.

I don't have time to check right now but I will give it a try later.

 

[hankse]

So Vic, will I be able to successfully connect my X-Pro2 to an external monitor via a HDMI and still be able to do in-camera processing? I know the X-Pro doesn't support tethering but this external connection to monitor may be different, I don't know.

That will work, I do it regularly with my X-Pro2 and X100T. Works great.

 

[Vic Chapman]

So Vic, will I be able to successfully connect my X-Pro2 to an external monitor via a HDMI and still be able to do in-camera processing? I know the X-Pro doesn't support tethering but this external connection to monitor may be different, I don't know.

That will work, I do it regularly with my X-Pro2 and X100T. Works great.

Thanks Hankse I shoot raw and process in LR but I might give that a try. I wonder why no one has mentioned this before.

Vic

 

[HumanAspect]

So Vic, will I be able to successfully connect my X-Pro2 to an external monitor via a HDMI and still be able to do in-camera processing? I know the X-Pro doesn't support tethering but this external connection to monitor may be different, I don't know.

That will work, I do it regularly with my X-Pro2 and X100T. Works great.

Thanks Hankse I shoot raw and process in LR but I might give that a try. I wonder why no one has mentioned this before.

Vic

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Because it's self-evident! The HDMI outlet ports the camera's playback output to a screen capable of taking a HDMI signal. It's what the port is for. As It's self-evident I suppose I shouldn't have mentioned it

It's also mentioned on many forums notably the Fujix and many more. I've recommended it myself some years ago.

It doesn't give a "live" view as you have to create the JPG in order to see the outcome. But it's quick and gives the desired outcome

 

[Xshooter]

Thanks HumanAspect for detailed explanation. You mentioned a screen that is capable of HDMI input. Do you mean an external monitor (colour calibrated). as opposed to a TV screen? I guess this HDMI output is plainly evident, it only occurred to me today that I'd like to do in-camera processing but on a larger screen if possible. I assume any relatively non-expensive external monitor with HDMI will suffice, as long as I get it colour calibrated. I'll have to start searching.

 

[HumanAspect]

I've only used it on a large TV screen. It works as well as I like it. To be honest I've only tried it a few times, I generally use the JPG output of my cameras and the few times I use RAW I just use the in camera processing on the camera's LCD screen.

I never colour calibrate anything, I'm not that bothered; if it looks good on the screen I'm viewing at the time then that's fine by me.

 

[Doug Pardee]

The topic came up in some other postings in this thread, but rather than keep digging down, I started a new top-level response.

"Calibrated screen" isn't really a thing. A calibrator is used to make a computer/screen system calibrated. Most, often all, of the actual color correction is done in the computer... mainly in LUTs (Look Up Tables) that are loaded into the computer's video processor. Some more can be done by color-space-aware software running on that computer, which then handles the color-space rendering from the (usually wide-gamut) working space into the LUT-corrected monitor color space.

Sometimes, some monitor adjustments are made at the start of the process, to bring the monitor closer to the desired response so that the LUTs don't have to make such large changes. With LCD screens, this is less common because LCDs don't always respond well to the changes -- they sometimes do some funny things with color casts.

To the extent that monitor adjustments are made, yes, this can improve the color response from your HDMI input. But it doesn't make the monitor "calibrated."

 

[Cliff Fujii]

So Vic, will I be able to successfully connect my X-Pro2 to an external monitor via a HDMI and still be able to do in-camera processing? I know the X-Pro doesn't support tethering but this external connection to monitor may be different, I don't know.

If I remember correctly, connecting to the HDMI port is a read only connection. The image on the HDMI cannot be manipulated. It's just an enlargement of what you will see on the camera's LCD when you press the playback button. I use this setup to review my day's take when I'm on a trip. If I need to do some editing or forwarding, I have to connect the SD card to my Surface Pro and work with the image that way.

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Cliff

 

[Cliff Fujii]

Thanks HumanAspect for detailed explanation. You mentioned a screen that is capable of HDMI input. Do you mean an external monitor (colour calibrated). as opposed to a TV screen? I guess this HDMI output is plainly evident, it only occurred to me today that I'd like to do in-camera processing but on a larger screen if possible. I assume any relatively non-expensive external monitor with HDMI will suffice, as long as I get it colour calibrated. I'll have to start searching.

I believe you can only see the image through the playback feature. If you want to do in-camera processing using a large monitor, you'll need an X-Tx and HS-V5.

 

[cantanima bis]

So Vic, will I be able to successfully connect my X-Pro2 to an external monitor via a HDMI and still be able to do in-camera processing? I know the X-Pro doesn't support tethering but this external connection to monitor may be different, I don't know.

If I remember correctly, connecting to the HDMI port is a read only connection. The image on the HDMI cannot be manipulated. It's just an enlargement of what you will see on the camera's LCD when you press the playback button. I use this setup to review my day's take when I'm on a trip. If I need to do some editing or forwarding, I have to connect the SD card to my Surface Pro and work with the image that way.

As I wrote above, I process my photos all the time via the HDMI port (albeit hooked up to a TV; I don't see why a computer monitor should be any different). Just hit the menu, select Raw Processing, and have at it.

Maybe I misunderstand what you guys are talking about, though.