Image files

[David Krhovsky]

A simple question. When working with your jpeg files in Photoshop do you work on a copy of the original? If so, what is your favored file format? TIFF, native Photoshop or something else? Thanks for your replys.--davek

 

[Jamooche]

I shoot only RAW and then convert to 16 bit tiff files. I do all editing at 16 bit tiff then convert to 8 bit tiff and save. If I want to reedit the file I open the tiff file. I print from tiff and archive the 8 bit tiffs with the RAW. I use jpegs for internet galleries and email only. And there's no real reason to archive the jpegs since they are just shrunken tiffs with sharpening.

Most of my files stay as RAW files. I use the breeze browser to view them. I only convert an image if I am gong to do something with it, print, post, share etc. There's no point in editing and spending tons of time on an image that you will do nothing with. You don't really need to work from a copy since you have the RAW file to back you up if you acciddntally save it, say cropped down to 400x600 like I once did. On my old Coolpix 950 if I made this mistake with the original jped i was screwed.

Best,

Jamil

A simple question. When working with your jpeg files in Photoshop
do you work on a copy of the original? If so, what is your favored
file format? TIFF, native Photoshop or something else? Thanks for
your replys.
--
davek

 

[David Krhovsky]

Thanks Jamil. I shoot almost exclusively in low compression/high quality jpeg, so I'm not starting with a RAW file. My question relates to jpeg images coming out of the camera. Specifically, do you work on a copy of the original jpeg saved as a different file format such as PSD or TIFF? Thanks again for your replys.

davek

Most of my files stay as RAW files. I use the breeze browser to
view them. I only convert an image if I am gong to do something
with it, print, post, share etc. There's no point in editing and
spending tons of time on an image that you will do nothing with.
You don't really need to work from a copy since you have the RAW
file to back you up if you acciddntally save it, say cropped down
to 400x600 like I once did. On my old Coolpix 950 if I made this
mistake with the original jped i was screwed.

Best,

Jamil

A simple question. When working with your jpeg files in Photoshop
do you work on a copy of the original? If so, what is your favored
file format? TIFF, native Photoshop or something else? Thanks for
your replys.
--
davek

--davek

 

[Jamooche]

I never shoot jpeg straight from camera. Why decrease your image quality? You paid so much for such a great camera anyway. With RAW you can go anywhere. But if I were to work with jpeg from camera, I would save as tiff...If you open a jpeg and then resave it a bunch of times it will decrease in quality because it is being compressed again every time you save it. When I make a jpeg it is saved only the first time. Tiff files don't degrade like this.

But before you do that, I would really consider changing to RAW...it's the only way to get super high image quality.

Best,
Jamil

davek

Most of my files stay as RAW files. I use the breeze browser to
view them. I only convert an image if I am gong to do something
with it, print, post, share etc. There's no point in editing and
spending tons of time on an image that you will do nothing with.
You don't really need to work from a copy since you have the RAW
file to back you up if you acciddntally save it, say cropped down
to 400x600 like I once did. On my old Coolpix 950 if I made this
mistake with the original jped i was screwed.

Best,

Jamil

A simple question. When working with your jpeg files in Photoshop
do you work on a copy of the original? If so, what is your favored
file format? TIFF, native Photoshop or something else? Thanks for
your replys.
--
davek

--
davek

 

[David Krhovsky]

Thanks Jamil, I appreciate your insight.

But before you do that, I would really consider changing to
RAW...it's the only way to get super high image quality.

Best,
Jamil

davek

Most of my files stay as RAW files. I use the breeze browser to
view them. I only convert an image if I am gong to do something
with it, print, post, share etc. There's no point in editing and
spending tons of time on an image that you will do nothing with.
You don't really need to work from a copy since you have the RAW
file to back you up if you acciddntally save it, say cropped down
to 400x600 like I once did. On my old Coolpix 950 if I made this
mistake with the original jped i was screwed.

Best,

Jamil

A simple question. When working with your jpeg files in Photoshop
do you work on a copy of the original? If so, what is your favored
file format? TIFF, native Photoshop or something else? Thanks for
your replys.
--
davek

--
davek

--davek

 

[Dick60789]

A simple question. When working with your jpeg files in Photoshop
do you work on a copy of the original? If so, what is your favored
file format? TIFF, native Photoshop or something else? Thanks for
your replys.

I usually shoot in RAW but occassionally shoot in fine JPG. The quality of fine JPG is excellent particularly if you aren't planning on printing the output. It is VERY important in JPG to NEVER edit and save the original file. Each time you save in JPG the compression algorythym is run and the file loses more information.

When working with JPG.

1). I would archieve the original JPG.

2). I would save edits in TIF or PSD so I would not lose quality as I worked on the edits.

 

[Karl Guttag]

First, never write over the orgininal. You never know when you will accidentally mess things up. You can undelete a file you delete, but if you write over it, it is gone on the computer. A common thing to do in Photoshop is to accidentally save in low quality compression. Storage is very cheap. I just bought a 160Gig Hard Drive for about $250, or enough to store about 120,000 Fine JPEGs or about 48,000 RAW images (or pennies per 1,000 pictures). A CDROM cost about 25 Cents for 700MB to store about 500 Fine JPEGs or 200 RAWs. Relative to anything else today, storage is next to free.

I think about what I am going to be doing with the pictures. For something tricky or something I think I may want in very high quality I will shoot RAW. But if I am going to be taking a bunch of "snapshots" (I will sometimes rattle off 200 to 300 or so) then I use JPEG Fine.

If I am saving intermediate results or I have done something fancy, I will save in Adobe PSD. It is a totally lossless format (like TIFF). I am always using layers so it does not make sense to me to use any other format. I can't see any reason to use TIFF when editing.

If I am whipping through a hundred or more pictures where I try to spend less than 1 minute a picture (often just a crop and sharpen), then I copy all the images to a new folder and whip through them with JPEG in to JPEG out.

The only time I would use TIFF is to send the output to somebody that requires it. A conversion from PSD to TIFF is lossless.

Karl

A simple question. When working with your jpeg files in Photoshop
do you work on a copy of the original? If so, what is your favored
file format? TIFF, native Photoshop or something else? Thanks for
your replys.
--
davek

--Karl

 

[Stuart Riley]

Hello,

thanks to all about their favorite methods of storage (file types), but I ask about retrieval. Specifically, do you use the USB cable to connect to the camera to gather the RAW files? Do you use a card reader? and if you do, what software will read the RAW files (not just for viewing)?

TIA,
Stuart

I think about what I am going to be doing with the pictures. For
something tricky or something I think I may want in very high
quality I will shoot RAW. But if I am going to be taking a bunch
of "snapshots" (I will sometimes rattle off 200 to 300 or so) then
I use JPEG Fine.

If I am saving intermediate results or I have done something fancy,
I will save in Adobe PSD. It is a totally lossless format (like
TIFF). I am always using layers so it does not make sense to me
to use any other format. I can't see any reason to use TIFF when
editing.

If I am whipping through a hundred or more pictures where I try to
spend less than 1 minute a picture (often just a crop and sharpen),
then I copy all the images to a new folder and whip through them
with JPEG in to JPEG out.

The only time I would use TIFF is to send the output to somebody
that requires it. A conversion from PSD to TIFF is lossless.

Karl

A simple question. When working with your jpeg files in Photoshop
do you work on a copy of the original? If so, what is your favored
file format? TIFF, native Photoshop or something else? Thanks for
your replys.
--
davek

--
Karl

--the eyes are the portal of the soul

 

[Dick60789]

thanks to all about their favorite methods of storage (file types),
but I ask about retrieval.

I shoot CRW on to CF cards (256MB) and download to 10Gb Digital Wallet. The Digital Wallet is portable and I can take it on a shoot. The Digital Wallet plugs into my computer as a portable disk drive.

I catalog the files using IMatch. I archieve the files on DVDRAM. I use a plugin with IMatch to directly convert the CRW to linear TIF files in Photoshop. I use D30 profiles to color correct and then edit the files in Photoshop.

 

[David Krhovsky]

Can you use Breeze Browser to do batch conversions from one file format to another. If not what programs can be used?

thanks to all about their favorite methods of storage (file types),
but I ask about retrieval.

I shoot CRW on to CF cards (256MB) and download to 10Gb Digital
Wallet. The Digital Wallet is portable and I can take it on a
shoot. The Digital Wallet plugs into my computer as a portable
disk drive.

I catalog the files using IMatch. I archieve the files on DVDRAM.
I use a plugin with IMatch to directly convert the CRW to linear
TIF files in Photoshop. I use D30 profiles to color correct and
then edit the files in Photoshop.

--davek

 

[Dick60789]

Can you use Breeze Browser to do batch conversions from one file format to another. If not what programs can be used?

Yes you can use Breeze Browser to do batch converts. It is IMO is much better software than that provided by Canon.