IBIS

[Gandolphi]

I can only comment on the SL 2-s and SL 3 cameras, the Leica SL/M and Novoflex EF/L adaptors…‘cos this is what I have.



if a Leica M lens is attached to either SL with the Leica adaptor, the IBIS can be used; if a lens is attached via the Novoflex adaptor the IBIS function cannot be activated. Whether other third party adaptors allow IBIS, zi do not know.

 

[SrMi]

I can only comment on the SL 2-s and SL 3 cameras, the Leica SL/M and Novoflex EF/L adaptors…‘cos this is what I have.

if a Leica M lens is attached to either SL with the Leica adaptor, the IBIS can be used; if a lens is attached via the Novoflex adaptor the IBIS function cannot be activated. Whether other third party adaptors allow IBIS, zi do not know.

To activate IBIS, the camera needs to know the focal length. The Leica adapter passes that information, but the Novoflex doesn't. You can manually set the focal length in the camera, and it will enable IBIS.

 

[David Kieltyka]

To activate IBIS, the camera needs to know the focal length. The Leica adapter passes that information, but the Novoflex doesn't. You can manually set the focal length in the camera, and it will enable IBIS.

Yes.

I use my SL2 a lot with adapted lenses so I have lotsa adapters. The benefits of using Leica's R-to-L adapter are: it recognizes ROM lenses so you don't need to ID 'em via menu after mounting 'em; and it allows Auto ISO in aperture priority mode with all R lenses. (The SL cameras have inherited a Panasonic "feature" that disables Auto ISO in AP mode with non-native lenses. Stooopid but this has been the case with Lumix mirrorless cameras from the beginning.) Unfortunately this adapter (or at least my copy) is badly behaved with non-ROM R lenses so I've given up using it.

-Dave-

 

[Gandolphi]

hi

exactly my thought but I have set the focal length but still no IBIS. Tomorrow, my next step will be to set a Leica lens ( as though uncoded ) to see if I can fool the camera. I am trying to figure the best lens to choose, one which needs little or no distortion control. At the moment I am thinking 135 mm Elmar. Any other suggestions?

I can only comment on the SL 2-s and SL 3 cameras, the Leica SL/M and Novoflex EF/L adaptors…‘cos this is what I have.

if a Leica M lens is attached to either SL with the Leica adaptor, the IBIS can be used; if a lens is attached via the Novoflex adaptor the IBIS function cannot be activated. Whether other third party adaptors allow IBIS, zi do not know.

To activate IBIS, the camera needs to know the focal length. The Leica adapter passes that information, but the Novoflex doesn't. You can manually set the focal length in the camera, and it will enable IBIS.

 

[SrMi]

hi

exactly my thought but I have set the focal length but still no IBIS. Tomorrow, my next step will be to set a Leica lens ( as though uncoded ) to see if I can fool the camera. I am trying to figure the best lens to choose, one which needs little or no distortion control. At the moment I am thinking 135 mm Elmar. Any other suggestions?

You have to set the right focal length, otherwise IBIS will not work correctly.

I can only comment on the SL 2-s and SL 3 cameras, the Leica SL/M and Novoflex EF/L adaptors…‘cos this is what I have.

if a Leica M lens is attached to either SL with the Leica adaptor, the IBIS can be used; if a lens is attached via the Novoflex adaptor the IBIS function cannot be activated. Whether other third party adaptors allow IBIS, zi do not know.

To activate IBIS, the camera needs to know the focal length. The Leica adapter passes that information, but the Novoflex doesn't. You can manually set the focal length in the camera, and it will enable IBIS.

 

[David Kieltyka]

hi

exactly my thought but I have set the focal length but still no IBIS. Tomorrow, my next step will be to set a Leica lens ( as though uncoded ) to see if I can fool the camera. I am trying to figure the best lens to choose, one which needs little or no distortion control. At the moment I am thinking 135 mm Elmar. Any other suggestions?

You have to set the right focal length, otherwise IBIS will not work correctly.

You also have to set Image Stabilization to On in the menus. I've accidentally toggled it to Off more than once.

-Dave-

 

[Gandolphi]

The SL 3 only allows auto/ Off/other lens setting; the M240, or was it the M9, used to allow any particular lens to be set. Ah progress.

stabilisation is blanked out, the lens profile is set to 28 (the focal length. Not a lot more I can do, except go back to holding the camera steady.

i did see one interesting thing; I had the camera on, went into the menu at the stabilisation point and removed the lens. At the first click, as I rotated the lens/adaptor, the “stabilisation” went from blanked out and unaccessible to accessible. So, I just need to discover what happens during that final couple of degrees twist.

“stabilisation”

hi

exactly my thought but I have set the focal length but still no IBIS. Tomorrow, my next step will be to set a Leica lens ( as though uncoded ) to see if I can fool the camera. I am trying to figure the best lens to choose, one which needs little or no distortion control. At the moment I am thinking 135 mm Elmar. Any other suggestions?

You have to set the right focal length, otherwise IBIS will not work correctly.

You also have to set Image Stabilization to On in the menus. I've accidentally toggled it to Off more than once.

-Dave-

 

[David Kieltyka]

The SL 3 only allows auto/ Off/other lens setting; the M240, or was it the M9, used to allow any particular lens to be set. Ah progress.

With regard to the M9 and M240 this is lens profiling, different than using focal length info to regulate IBIS. With the M8 your profiling options are either auto or off…no manual setting allowed. The M9 added the manual option.

FWIW the SL2 doesn't seem to apply vignetting or any other optical correction to R lenses mounted via the "official" R-to-L adapter.

stabilisation is blanked out, the lens profile is set to 28 (the focal length. Not a lot more I can do, except go back to holding the camera steady.

This can't be normal behavior. The only time I've seen the Stabilization setting blanked out on my SL2 is when I've mounted an adapted lens with built-in stabilization. With my Leica 90–280mm if I turn off lens OIS the camera's IBIS will still work. The opposite is also true. But with my adapted Canon 70–300mm only lens IS is allowed.

i did see one interesting thing; I had the camera on, went into the menu at the stabilisation point and removed the lens. At the first click, as I rotated the lens/adaptor, the “stabilisation” went from blanked out and unaccessible to accessible. So, I just need to discover what happens during that final couple of degrees twist.

You may want to clean your SL3's mount contacts…and your lens & adapter contacts too if applicable. Otherwise…dunno what's going on there.

-Dave-

 

[Gandolphi]

I have just purchased a cheap (er) adaptor made by Urth. It has no electrical contacts at all, it’s basically like a big extension tube. Leica L Mount on the camera end and Canon EF on the lens end. The lack of contacts is not a problem, the lens is manual focus with aperture setting manually on the lens. It is a good, secure fit and appears well made. The good news is, Stabilisation is active and working.

The lens is a Zeiss Otus 28mm. Has a good reputation and I am looking forward to using it.

The SL 3 only allows auto/ Off/other lens setting; the M240, or was it the M9, used to allow any particular lens to be set. Ah progress.

With regard to the M9 and M240 this is lens profiling, different than using focal length info to regulate IBIS. With the M8 your profiling options are either auto or off…no manual setting allowed. The M9 added the manual option.

FWIW the SL2 doesn't seem to apply vignetting or any other optical correction to R lenses mounted via the "official" R-to-L adapter.

stabilisation is blanked out, the lens profile is set to 28 (the focal length. Not a lot more I can do, except go back to holding the camera steady.

This can't be normal behavior. The only time I've seen the Stabilization setting blanked out on my SL2 is when I've mounted an adapted lens with built-in stabilization. With my Leica 90–280mm if I turn off lens OIS the camera's IBIS will still work. The opposite is also true. But with my adapted Canon 70–300mm only lens IS is allowed.

i did see one interesting thing; I had the camera on, went into the menu at the stabilisation point and removed the lens. At the first click, as I rotated the lens/adaptor, the “stabilisation” went from blanked out and unaccessible to accessible. So, I just need to discover what happens during that final couple of degrees twist.

You may want to clean your SL3's mount contacts…and your lens & adapter contacts too if applicable. Otherwise…dunno what's going on there.

-Dave-

 

[David Kieltyka]

I have just purchased a cheap (er) adaptor made by Urth. It has no electrical contacts at all, it’s basically like a big extension tube. Leica L Mount on the camera end and Canon EF on the lens end. The lack of contacts is not a problem, the lens is manual focus with aperture setting manually on the lens. It is a good, secure fit and appears well made. The good news is, Stabilisation is active and working.

The lens is a Zeiss Otus 28mm. Has a good reputation and I am looking forward to using it.

Ah, good. I'm now using an Urth R-to-L adapter in place of Leica's version. No more Auto ISO in aperture priority mode but also no more adapter freakouts when using non-ROM R lenses.

My EF-to-L adapter is a Viltrox. Works really well with my two remaining EF lenses: 24–85 and 70–300mm. In retrospect I wish I'd also kept the 100mm f/2 and 200mm f/2.8L. The former in particular…it was a lovely portrait lens.

The 28mm Otus is a bit of a beast but with fab optics. Have fun with it!

-Dave-

 

[Gandolphi]

I intend to. It reminds me of the rendering of the Planar on my old Contrarex. Not digital sharp, soft almost like a watercolour but full of detail.

I have just purchased a cheap (er) adaptor made by Urth. It has no electrical contacts at all, it’s basically like a big extension tube. Leica L Mount on the camera end and Canon EF on the lens end. The lack of contacts is not a problem, the lens is manual focus with aperture setting manually on the lens. It is a good, secure fit and appears well made. The good news is, Stabilisation is active and working.

The lens is a Zeiss Otus 28mm. Has a good reputation and I am looking forward to using it.

Ah, good. I'm now using an Urth R-to-L adapter in place of Leica's version. No more Auto ISO in aperture priority mode but also no more adapter freakouts when using non-ROM R lenses.

My EF-to-L adapter is a Viltrox. Works really well with my two remaining EF lenses: 24–85 and 70–300mm. In retrospect I wish I'd also kept the 100mm f/2 and 200mm f/2.8L. The former in particular…it was a lovely portrait lens.

The 28mm Otus is a bit of a beast but with fab optics. Have fun with it!

-Dave-

 

[Gandolphi]

Just to finish: Have ended up using a Sigma adaptor with the contacts insulated. Works well with the lens.

The reason for using the Sigma over the Urth is ‘cos the Sigma focuses at infinity with the infinity mark on the line; the Urth focuses at infinity with the 2 metre mark just past the line. It’s neater…..

 

[David Kieltyka]

Just to finish: Have ended up using a Sigma adaptor with the contacts insulated. Works well with the lens.

The reason for using the Sigma over the Urth is ‘cos the Sigma focuses at infinity with the infinity mark on the line; the Urth focuses at infinity with the 2 metre mark just past the line. It’s neater…..

Almost all my adapters allow focusing past infinity, but infinity == ~2m is a bit extreme. :-D Leica's own M-to-L adapter is spot-on…wish it allowed closer focusing à la the Light Lens Lab version, though.

-Dave-