Huge color space questions! Help Please

[Lenwoodbluz]

Hello there. I really haven't worked with RAW too much. I am helping a friend with some photos and he shot raw with a d50. I batch processed all the images with capture editor 4.4. Now when I open them with photoshop cs2 what should my colour settings be at and how do you set them. In edit and under colour settings there is settings. and you have a choice between custom, northamerican general jpurpose 2, northamerican prepress 2.

and then in working spaces, there is about 20 different choices. I have no idea which to use.

and then the next section is color management policies. I am totally lost with this section. what should I set?

the original raw files were shot in srgb and remained srgb through conversion.

In photoshop in the settings, under working spaces, there are settings for RGB, CMYK, GRAY, SPOT. What the heck do I set here?

I printed some photos off that I ran through and they werejust all flat and lifeless. some had a tinge of greenish to them. I can't understand what is happening.

I don't remember what my settings were at because I've been looking through the menus and now I'm more confused than ever.

If someone could take a look at their settings and let me know what they are using that would be great. or if someone has a link to a site that will explain colour spaces for me. I'm pretty lost though so it would have to be a real "color spaces for dummies" type explination.

even if somone could give me a little run through what there process for working with NEF files is that would be great. I did a search and I really don't know what to type in, If you type in color spaces you get everything under the sun.

any help would be amazing. thanks so much.
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[N8535Y]

In the first place I would use Adobe RGB output from RAW rather than sRGB which is a smaller color space.

If you are outputting from RAW to sRGB however, you need to set edit/colorsetting in CS2 to North America General Purpose 2 settings, but in "color management policies" check all three of the empty boxes. Then click save and name the setting what you wish.

If you are outputting from RAW in Adobe RGB (preferred) then just choose "North American Prepress 2". That is all you have to do.

Do your edits and save the file in either PSD or Tiff format. If you need jpeg later for the web or to send out for processing, conver later on, but save an original edit in PSD or Tiff format.

To Print, go to Print with Preview

If in the right hand upper corner, there is a button which says, "more options", click it. (this will change the button to "fewer options" if you want to go back).

On the left side of the screen in the first dropdown box, choose "color management".

Under "Print" choose document and you should see (Profile sRGB)--or whatever your embedded profile was.

Under "Options" "Color Handling", choose "Let Photoshop Determine Colors"

Under "Printer Profile" you need to choose the particular printer profile for the particular printer/paper/ink combination you are using. I cant help you much on this one because you did not specify your printer or paper, but if it is an epson printer, most printer drivers come with profiles or you can download them from the epson site.

For Rendering Intent choose "Relative Colorimetric" and check Black Point Compensation.

You are now ready to Print, but I cannot help you beyond this point without knowing your printer make and model.

Please note that the "Printer Preview"image on this page will not correctly reflect the colors and should not be used for that purpose.

If you want to know what the print will look like, in CS2, you need to go to view/proof setup/custom and set up a custom proof using the printer profile you are going to print with and then do final edits from the proof and save those edits to make your print from.

If you have already saved files out of RAW in sRGB, do not try to convert back to Adobe RGB. You can convert from an original output in Adobe back to sRGB, but not the other way around, and your working space should match your file space.

Bob

Hello there. I really haven't worked with RAW too much. I am
helping a friend with some photos and he shot raw with a d50. I
batch processed all the images with capture editor 4.4. Now when I
open them with photoshop cs2 what should my colour settings be at
and how do you set them. In edit and under colour settings there is
settings. and you have a choice between custom, northamerican
general jpurpose 2, northamerican prepress 2.

and then in working spaces, there is about 20 different choices. I
have no idea which to use.
and then the next section is color management policies. I am
totally lost with this section. what should I set?

the original raw files were shot in srgb and remained srgb through
conversion.

In photoshop in the settings, under working spaces, there are
settings for RGB, CMYK, GRAY, SPOT. What the heck do I set here?

I printed some photos off that I ran through and they werejust all
flat and lifeless. some had a tinge of greenish to them. I can't
understand what is happening.
I don't remember what my settings were at because I've been
looking through the menus and now I'm more confused than ever.

If someone could take a look at their settings and let me know what
they are using that would be great. or if someone has a link to a
site that will explain colour spaces for me. I'm pretty lost though
so it would have to be a real "color spaces for dummies" type
explination.

even if somone could give me a little run through what there
process for working with NEF files is that would be great. I did a
search and I really don't know what to type in, If you type in
color spaces you get everything under the sun.

any help would be amazing. thanks so much.
--
LENWOODBLUZ........NO REGRETS

See My Not-So-Hot pics at

http://www.pbase.com/lenwoodbluz
I be using the Nikon D70.

I also be using the Sony F828 cybershot.

FIVE SECONDS HATING IS FIVE SECONDS THAT YOU WASTE!!

(Song lyric by Bourbon Tabernacle Choir)

--
Bob

 

[stratuss]

Shooting RAW enables you to process each pic NEW from the digital
negative. Doing a bunch of raw pics blankets a single set of settings
on ALL the RAW photos, and negates the reason to shoot RAW.

You need to look at this first when taking advantage of RAW in
the first place. Sorry, but it's true. Otherwise, shoot at the best
JPEG setting.

What can be extracted from a RAW pic is incredible... but it takes
effort and time to do each pic.

Stratuss.
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Hello there. I really haven't worked with RAW too much. I am
helping a friend with some photos and he shot raw with a d50. I
batch processed all the images with capture editor 4.4. Now when I
open them with photoshop cs2 what should my colour settings be at
and how do you set them.....

 

[Lenwoodbluz]

This is great for printing at home. what is the preffered setting for printing at an outside shop. such as blacks or primary.

thanks a ton. your info was very very usefull.
--
LENWOODBLUZ........NO REGRETS

See My Not-So-Hot pics at

http://www.pbase.com/lenwoodbluz
I be using the Nikon D70.

I also be using the Sony F828 cybershot.

FIVE SECONDS HATING IS FIVE SECONDS THAT YOU WASTE!!

(Song lyric by Bourbon Tabernacle Choir)

 

[Lenwoodbluz]

thank you . This is what I ended up doing. I really don't think I'll do any important photos in anything other than RAW. I really like the control.

thanks again

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LENWOODBLUZ........NO REGRETS

See My Not-So-Hot pics at

http://www.pbase.com/lenwoodbluz
I be using the Nikon D70.

I also be using the Sony F828 cybershot.

FIVE SECONDS HATING IS FIVE SECONDS THAT YOU WASTE!!

(Song lyric by Bourbon Tabernacle Choir)

 

[N8535Y]

Either set up for sRGB with the workflow I pointed out before and send the sRGB to the Lab after editing, or if outputting in Adobe RGB and set up for Adobe RGB workspace, when you finish editing, "convert" to sRGB (remember you can convert down but not up).

A third option, but only for labs that will process with specific instructions for doing no color adjustments, obtain that labs printer profile, do your edits using softproofing with their printer profile and then--in most cases-- you would convert to their printer profile. So places will have you convert to their profile, but some will just want you to edit in their profile and submit in sRGB and then apply the profile themself, you will have to ask the lab. But as a general rule, except for a few places that will do custom work, just convert to sRGB.

Bob

This is great for printing at home. what is the preffered setting
for printing at an outside shop. such as blacks or primary.

thanks a ton. your info was very very usefull.
--
LENWOODBLUZ........NO REGRETS

See My Not-So-Hot pics at

http://www.pbase.com/lenwoodbluz
I be using the Nikon D70.

I also be using the Sony F828 cybershot.

FIVE SECONDS HATING IS FIVE SECONDS THAT YOU WASTE!!

(Song lyric by Bourbon Tabernacle Choir)

--
Bob