How quoting works

[MAC]

Quick update here that we have the ability to remove the "Click to expand" function so photos are revealed in full right away. This is currently being reviewed internally, but we'd appreciate your thoughts.

yes, leave it expanded from the get go

if you want to see a long thread with some of the most amazing photography in flat view, go here:

African safari talk...recommendations? - Canon-mount SLRs - Photography - FM Forums

Nice!

The only instance where I can see this being an issue is if 10 folks reply to the same photo in a row with a quote of it... you'd see 10 of the same photo in a row. I'm not sure if that's a serious issue though here.

it won’t be an issue, flat view provides you with the opportunity to have beautiful photo viewing like FM site, don’t blow it with more clicks

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[Horacecoker]

We should maybe think about the reason we want to quote a photo that was put in the thread earlier. I'm assuming in the earlier post you get the full thing
I think you mainly want that to have a clear reference to what you are commenting on: that particular post 3 messages up, or the third photo four messages up. I think expand wouldn't be a problem then, but you want to stay in the thread even if expanding

Correct, the original post (OP) shows it in full anyway. There is also a link back to that OP's post as well for convenience.

One area that this was considered is photo challenges and weekly photo submission events.

I only want to see thumbnails of the whole image in the posts. What you are suggesting here is worse than not having a threaded view!!

 

[Alan Sh]

I think we need to wait until it's out to comment and 'judge'. It may work, and if it doesn't, there's scope to get it modified.

Alan

 

[Mathew Anderson]

We should maybe think about the reason we want to quote a photo that was put in the thread earlier. I'm assuming in the earlier post you get the full thing
I think you mainly want that to have a clear reference to what you are commenting on: that particular post 3 messages up, or the third photo four messages up. I think expand wouldn't be a problem then, but you want to stay in the thread even if expanding

Correct, the original post (OP) shows it in full anyway. There is also a link back to that OP's post as well for convenience.

One area that this was considered is photo challenges and weekly photo submission events.

I only want to see thumbnails of the whole image in the posts. What you are suggesting here is worse than not having a threaded view!!

Can you show us an example of what you mean please. Happy to consider it if we can. It might be what we're already thinking about.

 

[Horacecoker]

We should maybe think about the reason we want to quote a photo that was put in the thread earlier. I'm assuming in the earlier post you get the full thing
I think you mainly want that to have a clear reference to what you are commenting on: that particular post 3 messages up, or the third photo four messages up. I think expand wouldn't be a problem then, but you want to stay in the thread even if expanding

Correct, the original post (OP) shows it in full anyway. There is also a link back to that OP's post as well for convenience.

One area that this was considered is photo challenges and weekly photo submission events.

I only want to see thumbnails of the whole image in the posts. What you are suggesting here is worse than not having a threaded view!!

Can you show us an example of what you mean please. Happy to consider it if we can. It might be what we're already thinking about.

That's easy.

Here are five bird images. You will see them in this thread as thumbnails. (560 pixels on the long side)

Blue Tit

Nuthatch

Great Tit

Snow Bunting

Hover over any image with your mouse and you will see the basic exif data. (camera setting etc). Click on the first image and it will open in gallery view at a much larger size. The other four images will be available at the bottom of the screen in a film strip. To view them, just click on each in turn or use the arrows. If you want to inspect any image at full size click '100% zoom'. You can now drag the image about with mouse. If you want to download an image, click on the 'original jpeg' in the details panel where you will also see some exif data and image size in pixels. The image will open in a new window, right click and 'save as' to download. When finished click on 'close gallery' to get back to the thread. Nothing could be simpler, nothing could be better. If we lose these excellent image viewing features, it will be worse than losing the threaded view, in my opinion.

 

[Mathew Anderson]

We should maybe think about the reason we want to quote a photo that was put in the thread earlier. I'm assuming in the earlier post you get the full thing
I think you mainly want that to have a clear reference to what you are commenting on: that particular post 3 messages up, or the third photo four messages up. I think expand wouldn't be a problem then, but you want to stay in the thread even if expanding

Correct, the original post (OP) shows it in full anyway. There is also a link back to that OP's post as well for convenience.

One area that this was considered is photo challenges and weekly photo submission events.

I only want to see thumbnails of the whole image in the posts. What you are suggesting here is worse than not having a threaded view!!

Can you show us an example of what you mean please. Happy to consider it if we can. It might be what we're already thinking about.

That's easy.

Here are five bird images. You will see them in this thread as thumbnails. (560 pixels on the long side)

Blue Tit

Nuthatch

Great Tit

Snow Bunting

Hover over any image with your mouse and you will see the basic exif data. (camera setting etc). Click on the first image and it will open in gallery view at a much larger size. The other four images will be available at the bottom of the screen in a film strip. To view them, just click on each in turn or use the arrows. If you want to inspect any image at full size click '100% zoom'. You can now drag the image about with mouse. If you want to download an image, click on the 'original jpeg' in the details panel where you will also see some exif data and image size in pixels. The image will open in a new window, right click and 'save as' to download. When finished click on 'close gallery' to get back to the thread. Nothing could be simpler, nothing could be better. If we lose these excellent image viewing features, it will be worse than losing the threaded view, in my opinion.

Perfect, thanks. This is how it works in the new forums as well (with the option to collapse the quote if that's what we end up showing).

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[robert1955]

We should maybe think about the reason we want to quote a photo that was put in the thread earlier. I'm assuming in the earlier post you get the full thing
I think you mainly want that to have a clear reference to what you are commenting on: that particular post 3 messages up, or the third photo four messages up. I think expand wouldn't be a problem then, but you want to stay in the thread even if expanding

Correct, the original post (OP) shows it in full anyway. There is also a link back to that OP's post as well for convenience.

One area that this was considered is photo challenges and weekly photo submission events.

I only want to see thumbnails of the whole image in the posts. What you are suggesting here is worse than not having a threaded view!!

Can you show us an example of what you mean please. Happy to consider it if we can. It might be what we're already thinking about.

That's easy.

Here are five bird images. You will see them in this thread as thumbnails. (560 pixels on the long side)

I see now, I misunderstood. I think of a thumbnail as something far smaller. This is good

Blue Tit

 

[M4Mobility]

Showing part of the photo is no problem in your example. That, plus the prompt "click to expand" will let people intuitively know what's going on. Even computer-challenged people.

I agree with this. Please keep the "click to expand" in quotes.

 

[Messier Object]

In an effort to bring out some of the branching topics from Ben's letter announcement, I'm starting a new thread here discussing the following:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/68454483

This is the default on how quoting works. You'll see a few lines, but if it's lengthy and you want to see it all, you click on the "Expand" button on the quote window.

Example from our staging site (the first teaser of Light Mode I think for you ):

I would encourage everyone to adopt this practice if there are questions within Ben's letter, or other lengthy threads, about the new system. We can be quicker to answer and even provide these teasers as we go along, if there's a distinct thread for it.

Thanks all for the great questions coming in! Expect a consolidated FAQ posted asap by us.

I find Flat view difficult to use and my biggest issue is when replies don’t quote the post being replied to

Is it possible or desirable to make Reply with Quote the mandatory default ?

The nested quotes could still be compressed with an Expand button available.


Peter

 

[Alan Sh]

No, please don't make that the default. I have no issues with flat view in that regard and I would need to then go and cull out all the indented replies to make my post legible.

Alan

 

[Mathew Anderson]

No, please don't make that the default. I have no issues with flat view in that regard and I would need to then go and cull out all the indented replies to make my post legible.

Alan

The intention is understandable and good, though the forums would look like too stuffed with just quotes then. It'd be ugly like how 7+ threaded quotes are replied to here currently.

You'll have two primary options at launch: normal reply to the thread, and a quote reply to any posts you wish to quote.