How many are sitting out this round?

[HMB]

What does the 2.2 firmware upgrade actually give you? Thanks.

 

[John Foote]

This is nice, but not nice enough for my budget. John

But a 'Major' upgrade is going to be in the $5,000-$6,000 price
range.

Not if I wait long enough. I've been buying digital cameras for 7 years, and one thing's certain; they keep getting better, and/or cheaper. If anything, the price/performance curve is accelerating, or at least reaching critical mass. If I can print a 4X6 poster (as the D60 apparently can), that's realistically about as large as I would ever want to impose my photography on innocent passers-by. If I can't get my point across at 4X6, shoot, give it up. Actually, 24X36 is quite ample. Anything outside of that is just nice for cropping, i.e., latitude to cover sloppy composition.

My problems with the D30-60 are not so much with image quality as they are with operational faciility. Out in the woods, there's just not that much improvement, and there probably won't be, until Canon utterly gives up on the 'Dxx' platform.

And give it up they will, probably soon. The D30-60 is a collection of design compromises that were engineered about 36 months ago, and time marches on. Canon strikes me as a remarkably innovative collection of engineering talent. I give them top credit in the industry for knowing what they're doing, and advancing the state of the art. They know better than anyone the limitations they must labor under in the Dxx platform. Without a doubt, they want to be done with them even more than we do. But hey, it's selling, and looky here, this 6MP CMOS will fit right in. Why not?

The market rather forced this upgrade, and Canon made the best of it, but it still seems likely that something else, something totally new, is well along in the pipeline, probably slated for PMA 2003. As Nikon, Sigma and Fuji slowly ramp up this summer to actually compete on near equal terms with the D60, I expect Canon will use it's two year head start to blow past them again. MeeMeeep, pchooo... crestfallen coyote.

As for the 1D, it's a professional camera. I'm a hobbiest, and I want a hobbiest camera. Something like the D30-60, but vastly improved. Better in the hobby sense does not necessarily equate to professional. It seems dumb to pay for many 'professional' features I won't use.

What I want isn't here yet, but it's coming soon. I'll know it when I see it. In the meantime, I like the D30, a lot. It's all good. john

The 1D WAS a major upgrade. So will the 1DS be when it is
released. As long as there is a market for the D60 and there are
pros to buy the 1D and 1DS Canon doesn't need to put out anything
else to stay competitive and turn a profit. For the forseable
future there probably wont be any models that are between the D60
and 1D/1DS in terms of overall performance. It will probably be a
few years before there are any intermediate models with the mid
range specs people are hoping for. Until then its either stay with
the D30, upgrade to whatever higher resolution D60 SLR's Canon puts
out or spend the cash on the pro models. Also film is far from
dissapearing and there are plenty of decent film models to choose
from with the specs that suit ones needs. Digital SLR photography
is still in its infancy and its going to be a while before the
manufacturers tool up and put out models on demand as so many are
asking for.

--
Mike

 

[Chris Maddock]

I have had my D30 since May and am NO WHERE NEAR using the
D30 to it's potential. Once I get to the point where I feel the
camera
is holding me back I will consider a new one.

Well said that man - that's one of the reasons I'm not switching.

The other is that I can't afford to! What I can spend at this stage, I'd prefer to put into better glass, which can be used with any EOS camera.

KRs
Chris

 

[Adi Khindaria]

Same here.

Then the 1-D.

Now wondering about the rumored 1-Ds.

Might be sitting around 'til Christmas. Hmmm, bonus time!

I am just curious. Since the improvements on the D60 are limited,
how many current D30 owners are sitting out this round of
upgrading? I would have done so had Canon put the Elan 7E eye
control focus into the D60. Nonetheless, I, for one, can not
justify nor afford to pluck down $3000 evey couple years to buy a
new DSLR body. Hopefully, the next DXX version will have a better
AF system.

--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

 

[G.lens]

Your right looks like the AI AF is going to be the same as the D30.Hopefully the highlighted AF sensors make things better.I used My EOS-3 last nite in during a game(normally use D30) and found the Highlighted AF senors an absolute treat esp in action where there is alot of players close to the ball and you want to pick out the right one, not the guy standing 2yrds behind the guy you want, like the D30 tends to do.

Karl

I am just curious. Since the improvements on the D60 are limited,
how many current D30 owners are sitting out this round of
upgrading? I would have done so had Canon put the Elan 7E eye
control focus into the D60. Nonetheless, I, for one, can not
justify nor afford to pluck down $3000 evey couple years to buy a
new DSLR body. Hopefully, the next DXX version will have a better
AF system.

James

--
Karl

 

[James C.]

I hope a major upgrade will come within a year.
Jo

This is nice, but not nice enough for my budget. John

But a 'Major' upgrade is going to be in the $5,000-$6,000 price
range.

Not if I wait long enough. I've been buying digital cameras for 7
years, and one thing's certain; they keep getting better, and/or
cheaper. If anything, the price/performance curve is accelerating,
or at least reaching critical mass. If I can print a 4X6 poster (as
the D60 apparently can), that's realistically about as large as I
would ever want to impose my photography on innocent passers-by. If
I can't get my point across at 4X6, shoot, give it up. Actually,
24X36 is quite ample. Anything outside of that is just nice for
cropping, i.e., latitude to cover sloppy composition.
My problems with the D30-60 are not so much with image quality as
they are with operational faciility. Out in the woods, there's just
not that much improvement, and there probably won't be, until Canon
utterly gives up on the 'Dxx' platform.
And give it up they will, probably soon. The D30-60 is a collection
of design compromises that were engineered about 36 months ago, and
time marches on. Canon strikes me as a remarkably innovative
collection of engineering talent. I give them top credit in the
industry for knowing what they're doing, and advancing the state of
the art. They know better than anyone the limitations they must
labor under in the Dxx platform. Without a doubt, they want to be
done with them even more than we do. But hey, it's selling, and
looky here, this 6MP CMOS will fit right in. Why not?
The market rather forced this upgrade, and Canon made the best of
it, but it still seems likely that something else, something
totally new, is well along in the pipeline, probably slated for PMA
2003. As Nikon, Sigma and Fuji slowly ramp up this summer to
actually compete on near equal terms with the D60, I expect Canon
will use it's two year head start to blow past them again.
MeeMeeep, pchooo... crestfallen coyote.
As for the 1D, it's a professional camera. I'm a hobbiest, and I
want a hobbiest camera. Something like the D30-60, but vastly
improved. Better in the hobby sense does not necessarily equate to
professional. It seems dumb to pay for many 'professional' features
I won't use.
What I want isn't here yet, but it's coming soon. I'll know it when
I see it. In the meantime, I like the D30, a lot. It's all good.
john

The 1D WAS a major upgrade. So will the 1DS be when it is
released. As long as there is a market for the D60 and there are
pros to buy the 1D and 1DS Canon doesn't need to put out anything
else to stay competitive and turn a profit. For the forseable
future there probably wont be any models that are between the D60
and 1D/1DS in terms of overall performance. It will probably be a
few years before there are any intermediate models with the mid
range specs people are hoping for. Until then its either stay with
the D30, upgrade to whatever higher resolution D60 SLR's Canon puts
out or spend the cash on the pro models. Also film is far from
dissapearing and there are plenty of decent film models to choose
from with the specs that suit ones needs. Digital SLR photography
is still in its infancy and its going to be a while before the
manufacturers tool up and put out models on demand as so many are
asking for.

--
Mike

 

[Guillaume in Paris]

LOL LOL
and black is so classy

"Here, honey, I got you a necklace with a pendant... what do you
mean, 'It's just a lens cap tied to a string'??"

 

[Michael Long]

Sold the D30, D60 on order even before PMA.