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How does one sublimate a wicked case of LBA?

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I have a serious case of LBA for a 100WR right now. I can honestly use it but med bills make it a very stoopid move. Still, it's soooooo nice and I would love the added working distance over the 35ltd. And I sure as hell am NOT selling the 35ltd to get another lens...again...yup done it once already and ended up having to burn through a few copies to get one as good as my original. I think that is my K20D being a bit off in it's specs in a way that doesn't mesh with the 35ltd as a rule it seems. I added that because I had to do a DEBUG AF adjustment to be able to use the AF adjustment in the normal setup. So I don't think its that there are ANY issues with 35ltd's as a rule, I just didn't want to lead anyone down that thought process...it's my K20D body and not the 35ltd's. Just to be clear.

I mean I LOVE my 35ltd but some days the bill paying work is a bit of a PITA because of the shorter FL. I truly need the ability to setup a bit farther away and still fill the frame and when I get the working distance needed with the 35ltd I have to make HUGE crops. Lighting is a lot trickier for sure, though the challenge is nice and led to some neat DIY tools on my end.

The shots I get with the 35ltd work for the most part but due to the huge crops I have to do on some pieces combined with the limits on lighting setup due to the close proximity, I still am leaving a lot of options on the table making those crops. Plus I want to go bug hunting in the rain. :D

I know I can use any of the other of the actual three amigos but honestly the 77ltd does not let me get in tight enough to fill the frame 90% of the time so it's actually no better to me than the 35ltd.

Whew....OK, just needed to write it out I can hold out a few months now...I think????

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I've got the hots for the 15mm Ltd right now... I read every thread and article about it.

But then I've already got the 100mm WR macro... : )

Flashman
 
I had to look up 'sublimate'

'Sublimation refers to the process of transition of a substance from the solid phase to the gas phase without passing through an intermediate liquid phase.'

Surely the 100WR could handle the liquid phase ?

Pete

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hahaha...first I hate envy you for owning the 100WR...hahaha...but I then I feel your pain as you are hearing the siren call of another lense on my list!! :D

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Real men shoot Pentax because we were born with our own Canons!!
{Ok...ok, some of use just shoot with a PnS but it always makes me happy! :D}
 
oh har har!! :p

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Real men shoot Pentax because we were born with our own Canons!!
{Ok...ok, some of use just shoot with a PnS but it always makes me happy! :D}
 
Well actually 3,,,

The first two ways are Running out of money or getting served divorce papers neither of which I'm sure you would not want to happen to you. That would put the brakes on LBA real fast.

Now the third way is to save up up for little here and there for the glass you truly want but in the meantime go and get a couple pieces of the good old glass and get back into the manual part of photography. Check out KEH and Pentax-Forums and do a little research and shopping for something that would work until you have enough pennies to get what you want. You might find out that you really don't need the high end glass as what you now have works for your needs and is also fun to use.
Just my 2 pennies... ;)
brecklundin said:
Real men shoot Pentax because we were born with our own Canons!!
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I like that, it reminds me of a picture my wife took of me and my sister-in-laws husband

He's the one with the itty bitty canon





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Some would sublimate by eating more. OTOH, eating less over a long period, if medically indicated, does save money. And helps to lower food prices for the poor.

Seriously, the little AF 1.7x costs less and would lengthen your reach to nearly 60=90 mm. A very good macro length. And surely it'd work wonders for your reach on the 77 Ltd.

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wjwncpro_Ds said:
Well actually 3,,,

The first two ways are Running out of money or getting served divorce papers neither of which I'm sure you would not want to happen to you. That would put the brakes on LBA real fast.
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hahahaha....I think we all have been in that direction on way or another. ;)

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Real men shoot Pentax because we were born with our own Canons!!
{Ok...ok, some of use just shoot with a PnS but it always makes me happy! :D}
 
Seriously I never even considered adding the 1.7x as a work around so I can use the 77ltd. It's a great idea actually as I have been trying to come up with a justification to grab one while they are still around.

Thanks, I didn't really expect a solution of any sort because I am just venting and goofing around. I could buy the 100WR right now but it's just not a great idea due to other facts of life. But I could easily justify buying the 1.7x to myself.

THANKS! :D

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Real men shoot Pentax because we were born with our own Canons!!
{Ok...ok, some of use just shoot with a PnS but it always makes me happy! :D}
 
Ha, I've been messed by both forms of it... Lens Buying Addiction and Light Buying Addiction. When you get both, you're really screwed!
 
I have just bought 5 film cameras and 12 lenses in the last few weeks, I have since sold 2 of the lenses and currently am working on selling 2 film cameras, 2 converters, 1 adapter, 5 lenses, 1 flash and a safe sync. sometimes one has to sell stuff to buy stuff, all the stuff i'm referring to however is used, nothing new.
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hahahaha...ya poor son-of-a-gun!! :D That made me really laugh about it. But no kidding on lighting costs. I have also had my eye on a set of Alien Bee 800's this year but, maybe not. Looks like a good year to refresh my inner Strobist!! :D

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Real men shoot Pentax because we were born with our own Canons!!
{Ok...ok, some of use just shoot with a PnS but it always makes me happy! :D}
 
There is no cure for LBA, but when you said you would use the DA 100mm WR for paying work.. Then it does not seem like true LBA to me..

I have bought the DA15,DA35,DA70,DA100m WR, and my present candidate is the DA60-250.

Tools that are a joy to use.. Tools that will outlast more than the next camera..

You seem clever enough, in your reasoning, and by the sounds of things you can get results..So now use that good brain of yours to develop a budget stratigy for getting the lens..

Look for extra work..Advertise new channels

Get family and friends who would obviously be benefitting from having a photographer pop up at their arrangements year in year out. to chip in.

Sell gear you don't use..

Economize cut out the fat... Take the bike instead of the car.. eat less chocolate...
Arrange yourself so your monthly bills don't have useless fluff added on...

Buy it when you can afford it and don't worry if it take's a little longer to reach that point..

"LBA" should not be a term we use to whip ourselves when we need to acquire tools to help us to realize our legitimate needs for improved working conditions. egronomics, and expanded potential work areas.. Like when working in bad weather, or being able to quickly mount the lens not worrying about converters, IQ and such. Having the right tools is part of being a craftsman.. LBA naaa Conscious choices for improving working conditions and your craftsmanship Ya!!

Regards

Pennywise Brent..
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brecklundin said:
Seriously I never even considered adding the 1.7x as a work around so I can use the 77ltd. It's a great idea actually as I have been trying to come up with a justification to grab one while they are still around.

Thanks, I didn't really expect a solution of any sort because I am just venting and goofing around. I could buy the 100WR right now but it's just not a great idea due to other facts of life. But I could easily justify buying the 1.7x to myself.

THANKS! :D
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Dangerous forces at work here.. You want the DA 100m WR, and now your moving out to get a converter that is overpriced and not what you wanted, so It takes you further from your legitimate goal here, not closer..

Reign in those horses cowboy.. It's the DA100mmWR we are aiming for!!! Your headed up Wildwood Creek now..Dodge is in the other direction sheesh----> > >
 
Brentliris said:
Dangerous forces at work here.. You want the DA 100m WR, and now your moving out to get a converter that is overpriced and not what you wanted, so It takes you further from your legitimate goal here, not closer..

Reign in those horses cowboy.. It's the DA100mmWR we are aiming for!!! Your headed up Wildwood Creek now..Dodge is in the other direction sheesh----> > >
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hahaha....not to worry my friend, I thought about it for a bit and realized a converter is no better, if not worse than cropping for my needs. Plus, yeah the $300-$600 for the 1.7x is just nuts, unless a person has a bunch of legacy glass it does give you back some AF ability. Well, not give back but adds to...

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Real men shoot Pentax because we were born with our own Canons!!
{Ok...ok, some of use just shoot with a PnS but it always makes me happy! :D}
 
Brentliris said:
There is no cure for LBA, but when you said you would use the DA 100mm WR for paying work.. Then it does not seem like true LBA to me..

I have bought the DA15,DA35,DA70,DA100m WR, and my present candidate is the DA60-250.

Tools that are a joy to use.. Tools that will outlast more than the next camera..
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"LBA" should not be a term we use to whip ourselves when we need to acquire tools to help us to realize our legitimate needs for improved working conditions. egronomics, and expanded potential work areas.. Like when working in bad weather, or being able to quickly mount the lens not worrying about converters, IQ and such. Having the right tools is part of being a craftsman.. LBA naaa Conscious choices for improving working conditions and your craftsmanship Ya!!
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Love that last observation...so true, nothing beats using the best tools you can find. My Grandfather was a tool and die maker, came over from Germany as a teen back around 1920 or so...one thing he taught me was never skimp on tools, buy the best. That way you only need buy them once.

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Real men shoot Pentax because we were born with our own Canons!!
{Ok...ok, some of use just shoot with a PnS but it always makes me happy! :D}
 
steephill said:
At least you don't have 645D LBA :)

Or you could adopt the Jim King approach and just buy everything.

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D'oh!!! hahahaha...yeah there is that, I never caught the 645D bug but if the thing was a few grand less I might have when it was released. I thanks the gawds daily for that small kindness because the sort of photography the 645D medium format excels at is right in the areas I really enjoy. Yikes!! ;)

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Real men shoot Pentax because we were born with our own Canons!!
{Ok...ok, some of use just shoot with a PnS but it always makes me happy! :D}
 
kuuan said:
not WR, not AF, but good an can be had for only around 100?:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/pentax/35mm/lenses/100mm-f4-smc-m.htm
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Actually I spent most of the night stalking a few options in that area. What I decided is the FA100/3.5 would be better for me over the MF 100/4 as if I shop I can find the FA100/3.5 under $200 but even at it's highest price we are taking $250ish and I could easily resell it later and not lose anything on either lense. That is the attraction of the older glass.

I know the FA100/3.5 is not the pinnacle of Pentax engineering and build quality but I really like the images it serves up as well as it being an AF lense helps me because I am horrid at MF anymore. Just never practice it and part of the reason for me getting a longer macro is to speed up my work flow and spend less time on images period. I know to MF is but a few second, however verifying the focus is nailed takes as much time as cropping does. When you have 200-300 shots to work through even 30-seconds/image is a huge time savings.

So thanks for thinking of a solid option!! Until tonight I was so focused on the new macro I was stepping over the right short term fix. I would not be disappointed if I had to "settle" for a MF lense. I'd get faster with enough practice I'm sure. Plus the MF macros run around $100-$150 which is not bad for something short term. I know I would keep it too... :D

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Real men shoot Pentax because we were born with our own Canons!!
{Ok...ok, some of use just shoot with a PnS but it always makes me happy! :D}
 
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