How do I change settings in P mode on an M5?

[Alan Sh]

On my 6D, I half press the shutter to see what it works out and then use the dials to change Tv or Av as I feel I want because the settings stay when I remove my finger from the shutter.

On the M5, this doesn't work. Do, what is the magic to make it work?

ALan

 

[Alan Sh]

Never mind - found it - you press the star button on the back and it all stays on

Alan

 

[md902]

Never mind - found it - you press the star button on the back and it all stays on

Alan

Thanks i couldn't see how to change anything but the ISO/set in P mode.. * button is the answer.

 

[Mick P]

On my 6D, I half press the shutter to see what it works out and then use the dials to change Tv or Av as I feel I want because the settings stay when I remove my finger from the shutter.

On the M5, this doesn't work. Do, what is the magic to make it work?

ALan

Try changing the exposure comp dial.

 

[Alan Sh]

On my 6D, I half press the shutter to see what it works out and then use the dials to change Tv or Av as I feel I want because the settings stay when I remove my finger from the shutter.

On the M5, this doesn't work. Do, what is the magic to make it work?

ALan

Try changing the exposure comp dial.

I think you misunderstand. In P mode, I may want to reduce the speed but increase the aperture or vice versa. EC isn't what I want.

Alan

 

[Mick P]

On my 6D, I half press the shutter to see what it works out and then use the dials to change Tv or Av as I feel I want because the settings stay when I remove my finger from the shutter.

On the M5, this doesn't work. Do, what is the magic to make it work?

ALan

Try changing the exposure comp dial.

I think you misunderstand. In P mode, I may want to reduce the speed but increase the aperture or vice versa. EC isn't what I want.

Alan

Aren't you missing the point of P mode? Is this not meant to be automatically selecting these options for you?

 

[Alan Sh]

I use P mode to adjust the Tv or Av setting and know that the corresponding value will set itself correcting (assuning constant ISO of course). So, if I see that the camera decided on 1/60th at F4.5, I might reset it to 1/30th at F5.6 and gain a bit of extra DoF. I see it as a semi-automatic mode

Does that make sense?

Alan

 

[nnowak]

On my 6D, I half press the shutter to see what it works out and then use the dials to change Tv or Av as I feel I want because the settings stay when I remove my finger from the shutter.

On the M5, this doesn't work. Do, what is the magic to make it work?

ALan

Try changing the exposure comp dial.

I think you misunderstand. In P mode, I may want to reduce the speed but increase the aperture or vice versa. EC isn't what I want.

Alan

Aren't you missing the point of P mode? Is this not meant to be automatically selecting these options for you?

The technical term is called "Program Shift". The relative exposure remains the same, but you adjust your shutter speed or aperture as needed for special situations. For example 1/15 f5.6, 1/30 f4.0, and 1/60 f2.8 would all give the same exposure. "P" mode may pick one of those three combinations, but program shift allows you to switch to one of the other possible combinations as needed.

 

[fstopx2]

On my 6D, I half press the shutter to see what it works out and then use the dials to change Tv or Av as I feel I want because the settings stay when I remove my finger from the shutter.

On the M5, this doesn't work. Do, what is the magic to make it work?

ALan

On the M3 you need to press the * button to get it to stay on. This is before or after the shutter 1/2 press. The M5 appears to work the same.

I thought it was always stupid because on a DSLR after the first press of the shutter button it stays on forever unless the camera goes to sleep.

 

[Mick P]

On my 6D, I half press the shutter to see what it works out and then use the dials to change Tv or Av as I feel I want because the settings stay when I remove my finger from the shutter.

On the M5, this doesn't work. Do, what is the magic to make it work?

ALan

Try changing the exposure comp dial.

I think you misunderstand. In P mode, I may want to reduce the speed but increase the aperture or vice versa. EC isn't what I want.

Alan

Aren't you missing the point of P mode? Is this not meant to be automatically selecting these options for you?

The technical term is called "Program Shift". The relative exposure remains the same, but you adjust your shutter speed or aperture as needed for special situations. For example 1/15 f5.6, 1/30 f4.0, and 1/60 f2.8 would all give the same exposure. "P" mode may pick one of those three combinations, but program shift allows you to switch to one of the other possible combinations as needed.

There you go. I didn't realise that this was a thing. It makes sense that you would need to have exposure lock enabled I think.

 

[Helen]

On my 6D, I half press the shutter to see what it works out and then use the dials to change Tv or Av as I feel I want because the settings stay when I remove my finger from the shutter.

On the M5, this doesn't work. Do, what is the magic to make it work?

ALan

Try changing the exposure comp dial.

I think you misunderstand. In P mode, I may want to reduce the speed but increase the aperture or vice versa. EC isn't what I want.

Alan

Aren't you missing the point of P mode? Is this not meant to be automatically selecting these options for you?

The technical term is called "Program Shift". The relative exposure remains the same, but you adjust your shutter speed or aperture as needed for special situations. For example 1/15 f5.6, 1/30 f4.0, and 1/60 f2.8 would all give the same exposure. "P" mode may pick one of those three combinations, but program shift allows you to switch to one of the other possible combinations as needed.

There you go. I didn't realise that this was a thing. It makes sense that you would need to have exposure lock enabled I think.

Though you don't have to on most other brands. Another way to look at Program Shift is that it's a way of influencing the behaviour of program mode, giving it a shove in the direction of, for example, choosing higher shutter speeds than it would normally do, whilst keeping overall exposure the same. This can also be useful when done dynamically, with the metering still "live".