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Hey guys!

I'm thrilled to be here, but I am overwhelmed because I'm not sure what to do. I recently bought my a7Rii. Right now I only have a handful of old manual focus lenses that seem to be very nice for what I've done so far.

I bought my camera and lenses last week, and have been going over a lot of settings of the camera. (many have been helpful on here on this topic)

I'm very new to all of this, but I love taking pictures. Prior to this I have been using my Samsung phones. I have taken what I believe to be some great pictures. I feel like I have a good eye, but that's where it ends.

I want to take landscape pictures mostly. I don't feel like being someone who takes portraits of people since I am an introvert and am not good with conversation face to face. I also, don't like making videos of myself, so youtube is not something I've looked into.

At this point, I don't know what to do. There are too many directions to go in. I would like to be able to do photography as a hobby to make some money on the side, but I have no idea how or where to start. To at least make my money back on the camera and lenses would be at least the most I expect to be happy.

I opened a flicker account, but I don't know how to utilize it. I looked at the pro level, but not sure if it is worth it at this point in the game.

Besides getting out there and taking photos, what do I need to do? There is too much material out there, and it seems like everyone and their grandmother are photographers.

Real estate looks like a good option as well, but I don't know where to start. Any help or suggestions would be helpful. Maybe let me know how many of you started and how you are doing now, and how long it took for you to get going?

At the very least I have a great camera for family pictures, but I could have bought something 1/3 of the price to do that

Gregg
 
Thank you for your opinion.

Using EC in one of the semi auto modes is simply adjusting the exposure the camera, and not the photographer, set.

It doesn't prove that whoever took the photo understood what exposure is at all.

For example, I could tell a complete novice to set shutter speed to say 1/300s, ISO 100 in shutter priority and to take the picture.

I could tell them to then use +/- EC to get the image to look how they want. They could easily have no idea about the concept of exposure and still come up with a good looking image.

All they would need to do is be able to operate the controls on the camera.
 
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I do not believe that the direction that this thread has gone is very helpful, so I thought I may add some useful content. A lot of this should be covered in the photography book you ordered, but hopefully it is still useful. Warning: this is going to be a bit of an essay.

Camera Settings

Arguably, the most important camera settings to understand are the f-number, shutter speed, and ISO.
  • F-number: The f-number essentially a ratio between the focal length of the lens and the diameter of the aperture (or entrance pupil) of the lens. Low f-numbers mean that the lens is letting in more light and smaller f-numbers mean that the lens is letting in less light. There was a nice diagram of this posted earlier. small f-numbers will also result in small depth of field, which could be good or bad depending on your objectives. It can give a blurry background which one method of highlighting a subject, but it can also lead to instances where items you want to be in focus are not (e.g, a dogs eyes in focus but its nose out of focus). Smaller f-number will give greater depth of field, which can be useful for landscape shots or environmental portraits.
  • Shutter Speed: The shutter speed is the length of time the shutter remains open to let light in. Keeping the shutter speed open longer lets more light in. There are two items to be concerned with when selecting shutter speed: blurry subjects due to subject movement or blurry photos due to cameras shake. If a subject is moving fast, you need a fast shutter speed to get a sharp shot. A good guideline is to use ~1/1000 second for faster motion (e.g., sports), and 1/200 seconds for portraits (you can go less, but 1/200 is pretty safe). In order to make sure that camera shake is not an issue, a good guideline is to set the shutter at 1/[the lens focal length]. So, a 70 mm lens should have a minimum of a 1/70 shutter speed. This is just a guideline, so feel free to experiment.
As previously mentioned, f-number, shutter speed, and scene luminance define the mathematical definition of exposure. However, it gets confusing because raw editors like Lightroom and Capture One typically have an exposure slider, which do not really change the exposure (it cannot go back in time and change the camera setup), but does change the brightness or lightness of the image. All the bickering about exposure is about this confusion.
  • ISO: ISO is essentially a parameter that translates the light captured by the camera to the brightness of the image you want. For example, if you take a picture in a dark room (low exposure) and want the picture to look bright, you may use a high ISO. Alternatively, you could shoot outside on a bright day but set a very shot shutter speed (e.g., 1/8000) and large f-number (e.g., f22) (low exposure), and use a high ISO setting to get a bright image. The downside to using a low exposure is that the camera is capturing less light, which results in noise .
It is typically best practice to try and meet your artistic intent and try and optimize exposure. However, I wouldn't worry about this too much about this. A little noise never ruined an image.

Composition

There are several useful techniques to highlight a subject in a photo. In general, photographers will often try focus an image on a single subject or story and avoid elements that don't help tell that story. Below are some helpful techniques:
  • Sharpness: Using depth of field (often a low f-number) to make your subject sharp and the background less share is one way to highlight your subject. This method is very useful, but is only one technique out of many (and one that is sometimes overused in my opinion). An example is a portrait where the face is sharp, but the background is recognizable, but blurry. One may also include techniques such as panning (e.g., picture of a racecar) and using low shutter speeds to show water in motion (e.g., a picture of a waterfall) under this concept.
  • Scale: The size of the subject in the image in comparison to other objects can help emphasize the subject. For instance making the subject larger than other objects will help direct the eye to the subject. However, scale can also be used in other ways. For example, one may shoot a small person in a vast landscape to make that landscape seem large and impressive.
  • Color: Color can be used to emphasize a subject. If you have ever watched interior design shows, you have probably seen them use bright color throw pillows or curtains that "pop" against the other colors in the room. The same concept can be used in photography. One may have a bright subject against a natural landscape or use complementary colors. Colors can also convey a mood. For instance, we tend to think of colors with a blue tint as being "cold" and a yellow tint as being "warm." You can use color to help tell the story.
  • Light: You may use light to help emphasize your subject. For instance consider a picture where the subject is luminated, but he background is darker. Your eye will naturally focus on the light part of the image.
  • Leading Lines: Leading lines can be used to help lead a viewer through the image and provide a sense of depth. An example is a road that curves through a landscape, leading the viewers eye from the foreground to the background.
  • Negative Space: One can use negative space to emphasize a subject. For example street photography photos of a small person walking with a large wall as the background (uses both negative space and scale to emphasize the subject).
  • Balance: Balancing objects in the frame can make a picture more visually pleasing. For example, placing all of the objects on one side of the frame can make the picture seem unbalanced. The rule of thirds is a guideline that can be used to help balance objects in a photo (but it is a guideline that may be broken).
  • Texture or Patterns: Texture may be used to emphasize a subject. For example, a photo may be of a series of windows in a skyscraper with a single window lit, showing someone working late. The one window that brakes from the pattern of dark windows tells a story and makes the photo compelling.
  • Decisive moment: Not really a composition technique, but capturing a unique moment such as an embrace, smile, reaction, etc. can be the difference between an average and excellent photo. One should look for those moments. An example is that I managed to catch a huge hug between my wife and one year old daughter after she kame home from work (still wearing her business suit). The photo tells a story and makes me happy.
I may have missed some elements of composition, but hopefully this is a good start and gets you thinking about how you may apply some of these techniques. The goal is to tell a story and create a visually pleasing image.

One last note is to try and avoid distracting elements, such as a light pole sticking our of someone head, or a bright light that is not part of the composition.

Lighting

I am not going to go into a lot of detail here, but lighting is extremally important to photography. Light can have different characteristics that impact the final photograph. Two of those characteristics are hard light and soft light.
  • Hard light: Hard light occurs when the light source is small in comparison to an object. The reason is the angle of the light from the small light source (recommend looking up a diagram). Think of the sun on a bright cloudless day (even thought the sun is big, it is very far away, which makes it seem small). The sun will give very "hard" distinct shadows. These shadows are often challenging to deal with since they can cause shadows under eyes and make it hard to balance light and dark portions of the scene. However, the hard shadows may be used artistically in come cases. You can also create hard light with a flash by or light bulb.
  • Soft light: A large light source in comparison to the subject creates soft light. A large light source allows the light to approach the subject form many different angles, allowing it to somewhat fill in, or soften, the shadows. This is the reason why portrait photographers use large umbrellas and softboxes. They make the light source large in comparison to the subject, resulting in less harsh shadows. You may also encounter soft light in the natural world. Consider an overcast day where the clouds diffuse the light from the sun. On those days the shadows will be less harsh because the clouds act as a giant light source.
You may also consider the direction of the light. the direction of the light may be used to emphasize features. For instance, have you ever seen pictures of models with well defined abs? It is likely that the direction of the light was set to rake over the abs so that the light and shadow areas helped define them. The same concept can be used in landscape photography. When the sun is setting, it will rake across the landscape which may held define some of the texture present in the landscape.

Closing Remarks

I hope some of this information is useful. I mostly wanted to contradict the implication in this thread that photography is all about knowing the mathematical definition of exposure (and worse yet, whether they human is setting exposure in aperture/shutter priority modes). It is good to understand those concepts, but there is so much more to photography. This is often forgotten during discussions on this forum. Have fun, experiment, and stay safe.
 
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If you haven't already done so, make sure you understand what exposure actually is.

Everything else, camera settings, composition techniques etc etc etc will flow on from that.

Exposure = the amount of light that hits the sensor per unit area.

Only scene luminance, aperture and shutter speed affect exposure.

ISO does not directly affect exposure at all. ISO sets the lightness of the outputted image.

For example, for a given scene luminance:
  1. f/5.6, 1/200s, ISO 100
  2. f/5.6, 1/200s, ISO 400
are exactly the same exposure but setting 2 will output a lighter image.

The most basic fundamental for me is that to minimise visible noise I need to maximise the exposure while meeting my DOF and motion blur requirements without clipping important highlights.

Once I got my head around the above everything else became much more straight forward and simpler.
So how do I maximize exposure? As of right now I am not familiar with it.
Exposure is not something that you "maximise". It's a combination of Aperture and Shutter Speed. Your camera will have an exposure indicator to assist with setting the exposure, and there are other indicators such as Live Histogram and "Zebras" (indications of localised over-exposure).
Also, The ISO is on auto. So I'm not sure if it is even working since the lenses are manual focus? I haven't messed with ISO at all yet.
Keep ISO on 100 until you gain experience. Aperture, SS and ISO work together to produce a satisfactory preview, even in low light. Some refer to this by the ugly term "Lightness".

For processing, you don't need a high performance computer.

There are free programs such as Picasa and IrfanView. I often use Picasa, but it is only available now as download, and some sites are not trustworthy.

Avoid low-light photography until you gain experience.

Wide angle shot.
Wide angle shot.

Low light. Note ISO setting.
Low light. Note ISO setting.
Great photos.

Thank you. I'll put it on 100. Which lens do you use the most for everyday shots?
On the a7, I sometimes use the Sony 28-70mm...

Examples

Don't worry about the petty bickering in these threads, it's just "noise" that can be ignored. When you eventually realise that it's all extremely straightforward, you will be amused by all the nonsense that accompanies this topic.

In reality, using a camera is one of the easiest technical tasks, and comparable with cooking in terms of complexity. (Think of temperature and cooking time as "exposure").
They don't seem too bad to my eye. Since I'm not a professional I don't have much authority in my opinion.

What can you tell me about your 16-35mm? I'm trying to figure out what kinds of lenses will work for what I am looking to do. I don't want to have to carry around a bunch of lenses if I can help it.
It's fairly bulky zoom, but smaller than similar lenses from Canon, Nikon etc. Costs about $1500.

The focal length ranges from Ultra-Wide (16mm) to wide-ish normal view (35mm); 45mm is generally regarded as normal view on FF cameras.

In addition to the 28-70mm previously mentioned, I have a 70-200mm f/4 zoom that's a rather excellent lens ($1600) that's nice for portraits, sports and wildlife "lite".
Ah, I see. That seems to cover most of it then
Not bad, considering that I don't understand exposure?
Not bad, considering that I don't understand exposure?

There's also a 35mm f/2.8 prime lens that makes a very compact travel rig.

All there lenses can do double duty on my a6000, where there's a focal length advantage.

On a recent photo trip, I took the Sony a7 with 16-35mm, plus Nikon D7100 with 18-140mm , and that covered my requirements.
Yea, that looks like a pretty good picture to me. One that I would like to take since they have blue angel show every year down the road.
 
Here are some random photos. These have the sun in the left corner out of the picture but setting on my Pentax 50mm f/1.8. The camera setting very on these backyard pictures. I just need to know what you guys think as far as how to improve. I'm not concerned with style. I just pointed, set some settings and shot.

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High ISO, mid shutter speed, aperture wide open
High ISO, mid shutter speed, aperture wide open

HIgh ISO, 8000 shutter speed, aperture open at 16
HIgh ISO, 8000 shutter speed, aperture open at 16

ISO auto, aperture 16, shutter speed 100
ISO auto, aperture 16, shutter speed 100

ISO auto, aperture 16, shutter speed 60
ISO auto, aperture 16, shutter speed 60

I played around with the setting in a very dark room. This room has no lights on, 5 windows, but all blinds shut and they have sun shade screens on the outside of them, so it is very dark. I used the camera settings to brighten the room. I'm actually surprised how great this camera can brighten up a dark room even with a novice like me.

How can I improve the better shots here. Obviously, the first ones were grainy and dark. The other ones seem too fuzzy and bright around the edges. The middle seems better, but I'm sure I could do better?
 
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I do not believe that the direction that this thread has gone is very helpful, so I thought I may add some useful content. A lot of this should be covered in the photography book you ordered, but hopefully it is still useful. Warning: this is going to be a bit of an essay.

Camera Settings

Arguably, the most important camera settings to understand are the f-number, shutter speed, and ISO.
  • F-number: The f-number essentially a ratio between the focal length of the lens and the diameter of the aperture (or entrance pupil) of the lens. Low f-numbers mean that the lens is letting in more light and smaller f-numbers mean that the lens is letting in less light. There was a nice diagram of this posted earlier. small f-numbers will also result in small depth of field, which could be good or bad depending on your objectives. It can give a blurry background which one method of highlighting a subject, but it can also lead to instances where items you want to be in focus are not (e.g, a dogs eyes in focus but its nose out of focus). Smaller f-number will give greater depth of field, which can be useful for landscape shots or environmental portraits.
  • Shutter Speed: The shutter speed is the length of time the shutter remains open to let light in. Keeping the shutter speed open longer lets more light in. There are two items to be concerned with when selecting shutter speed: blurry subjects due to subject movement or blurry photos due to cameras shake. If a subject is moving fast, you need a fast shutter speed to get a sharp shot. A good guideline is to use ~1/1000 second for faster motion (e.g., sports), and 1/200 seconds for portraits (you can go less, but 1/200 is pretty safe). In order to make sure that camera shake is not an issue, a good guideline is to set the shutter at 1/[the lens focal length]. So, a 70 mm lens should have a minimum of a 1/70 shutter speed. This is just a guideline, so feel free to experiment.
As previously mentioned, f-number, shutter speed, and scene luminance define the mathematical definition of exposure. However, it gets confusing because raw editors like Lightroom and Capture One typically have an exposure slider, which do not really change the exposure (it cannot go back in time and change the camera setup), but does change the brightness or lightness of the image. All the bickering about exposure is about this confusion.
  • ISO: ISO is essentially a parameter that translates the light captured by the camera to the brightness of the image you want. For example, if you take a picture in a dark room (low exposure) and want the picture to look bright, you may use a high ISO. Alternatively, you could shoot outside on a bright day but set a very shot shutter speed (e.g., 1/8000) and large f-number (e.g., f22) (low exposure), and use a high ISO setting to get a bright image. The downside to using a low exposure is that the camera is capturing less light, which results in noise .
It is typically best practice to try and meet your artistic intent and try and optimize exposure. However, I wouldn't worry about this too much about this. A little noise never ruined an image.

Composition

There are several useful techniques to highlight a subject in a photo. In general, photographers will often try focus an image on a single subject or story and avoid elements that don't help tell that story. Below are some helpful techniques:
  • Sharpness: Using depth of field (often a low f-number) to make your subject sharp and the background less share is one way to highlight your subject. This method is very useful, but is only one technique out of many (and one that is sometimes overused in my opinion). An example is a portrait where the face is sharp, but the background is recognizable, but blurry. One may also include techniques such as panning (e.g., picture of a racecar) and using low shutter speeds to show water in motion (e.g., a picture of a waterfall) under this concept.
  • Scale: The size of the subject in the image in comparison to other objects can help emphasize the subject. For instance making the subject larger than other objects will help direct the eye to the subject. However, scale can also be used in other ways. For example, one may shoot a small person in a vast landscape to make that landscape seem large and impressive.
  • Color: Color can be used to emphasize a subject. If you have ever watched interior design shows, you have probably seen them use bright color throw pillows or curtains that "pop" against the other colors in the room. The same concept can be used in photography. One may have a bright subject against a natural landscape or use complementary colors. Colors can also convey a mood. For instance, we tend to think of colors with a blue tint as being "cold" and a yellow tint as being "warm." You can use color to help tell the story.
  • Light: You may use light to help emphasize your subject. For instance consider a picture where the subject is luminated, but he background is darker. Your eye will naturally focus on the light part of the image.
  • Leading Lines: Leading lines can be used to help lead a viewer through the image and provide a sense of depth. An example is a road that curves through a landscape, leading the viewers eye from the foreground to the background.
  • Negative Space: One can use negative space to emphasize a subject. For example street photography photos of a small person walking with a large wall as the background (uses both negative space and scale to emphasize the subject).
  • Balance: Balancing objects in the frame can make a picture more visually pleasing. For example, placing all of the objects on one side of the frame can make the picture seem unbalanced. The rule of thirds is a guideline that can be used to help balance objects in a photo (but it is a guideline that may be broken).
  • Texture or Patterns: Texture may be used to emphasize a subject. For example, a photo may be of a series of windows in a skyscraper with a single window lit, showing someone working late. The one window that brakes from the pattern of dark windows tells a story and makes the photo compelling.
  • Decisive moment: Not really a composition technique, but capturing a unique moment such as an embrace, smile, reaction, etc. can be the difference between an average and excellent photo. One should look for those moments. An example is that I managed to catch a huge hug between my wife and one year old daughter after she kame home from work (still wearing her business suit). The photo tells a story and makes me happy.
I may have missed some elements of composition, but hopefully this is a good start and gets you thinking about how you may apply some of these techniques. The goal is to tell a story and create a visually pleasing image.

One last note is to try and avoid distracting elements, such as a light pole sticking our of someone head, or a bright light that is not part of the composition.

Lighting

I am not going to go into a lot of detail here, but lighting is extremally important to photography. Light can have different characteristics that impact the final photograph. Two of those characteristics are hard light and soft light.
  • Hard light: Hard light occurs when the light source is small in comparison to an object. The reason is the angle of the light from the small light source (recommend looking up a diagram). Think of the sun on a bright cloudless day (even thought the sun is big, it is very far away, which makes it seem small). The sun will give very "hard" distinct shadows. These shadows are often challenging to deal with since they can cause shadows under eyes and make it hard to balance light and dark portions of the scene. However, the hard shadows may be used artistically in come cases. You can also create hard light with a flash by or light bulb.
  • Soft light: A large light source in comparison to the subject creates soft light. A large light source allows the light to approach the subject form many different angles, allowing it to somewhat fill in, or soften, the shadows. This is the reason why portrait photographers use large umbrellas and softboxes. They make the light source large in comparison to the subject, resulting in less harsh shadows. You may also encounter soft light in the natural world. Consider an overcast day where the clouds diffuse the light from the sun. On those days the shadows will be less harsh because the clouds act as a giant light source.
You may also consider the direction of the light. the direction of the light may be used to emphasize features. For instance, have you ever seen pictures of models with well defined abs? It is likely that the direction of the light was set to rake over the abs so that the light and shadow areas helped define them. The same concept can be used in landscape photography. When the sun is setting, it will rake across the landscape which may held define some of the texture present in the landscape.

Closing Remarks

I hope some of this information is useful. I mostly wanted to contradict the implication in this thread that photography is all about knowing the mathematical definition of exposure (and worse yet, whether they human is setting exposure in aperture/shutter priority modes). It is good to understand those concepts, but there is so much more to photography. This is often forgotten during discussions on this forum. Have fun, experiment, and stay safe.
Wow, thank you! I will be saving this page so I can refer to it. Great write up for sure!
 
The exif shows that the shot was taken in shutter priority and so the camera set the aperture, not you or whoever took the photo.

The semi auto modes are a great way for beginners and/or professionals or anyone to let the camera set the exposure instead of the photographer.

Manual mode, where the photographer sets the aperture and shutter speed, is the only mode I am aware of where the photographer sets the exposure.
I shoot a lot of film, and use manual and ap-priority interchangeably. When I take a photo with an all-manual camera, I'm either going with the light meter's recommendation or I'm adjusting a stop or two because I know the light meter may be off. Based on that, I decide on my exposure. Using semi-auto mode -- where I alter with EC as needed -- merely means that it's the camera twiddling the shutter-speed dial, not me. (And I have the advantage that the camera can set between-stop speeds.)

(Actually, I suppose that in manual mode, with my Pentax KX at least, I am shooting in shutter-priority mode, since I tend to decide on a shutter speed first and fine-tune my aperture since that dial is easier to twiddle.)

In digital photography I follow much of the same model, locking ISO at one setting or a 5-stop range (100-1600), setting my aperture and letting the camera set shutter speed or vice-versa. Same that I'd do in manual but it's just quicker.

To say that I'm not setting the exposure in this situation is, I think, nonsense. In most shooting situations, I rarely need both parameters to be at a fixed number -- often one takes priority (usually aperture), and it matters little if my shutter speed is 1/125 or 1/250.

Aaron

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My Flickr page: https://www.flickr.com/photos/aarongold/
 
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The exif shows that the shot was taken in shutter priority and so the camera set the aperture, not you or whoever took the photo.

The semi auto modes are a great way for beginners and/or professionals or anyone to let the camera set the exposure instead of the photographer.

Manual mode, where the photographer sets the aperture and shutter speed, is the only mode I am aware of where the photographer sets the exposure.
I shoot a lot of film, and use manual and ap-priority interchangeably. When I take a photo with an all-manual camera, I'm either going with the light meter's recommendation or I'm adjusting a stop or two because I know the light meter may be off. Based on that, I decide on my exposure. Using semi-auto mode -- where I alter with EC as needed -- merely means that it's the camera twiddling the shutter-speed dial, not me. (And I have the advantage that the camera can set between-stop speeds.)

(Actually, I suppose that in manual mode, with my Pentax KX at least, I am shooting in shutter-priority mode, since I tend to decide on a shutter speed first and fine-tune my aperture since that dial is easier to twiddle.)

In digital photography I follow much of the same model, locking ISO at one setting or a 5-stop range (100-1600), setting my aperture and letting the camera set shutter speed or vice-versa. Same that I'd do in manual but it's just quicker.

To say that I'm not setting the exposure in this situation is, I think, nonsense. In most shooting situations, I rarely need both parameters to be at a fixed number -- often one takes priority (usually aperture), and it matters little if my shutter speed is 1/125 or 1/250.
Thank you for your opinion.

I aim to maximise image quality and to do that I need to maximise the exposure as I described earlier.

If 1/125s shutter speed gives me my motion blur requirements I will always choose it instead of 1/250s.

I see no point in me throwing away 1 stop of light on the sensor.
 
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I do not believe that the direction that this thread has gone is very helpful, so I thought I may add some useful content. A lot of this should be covered in the photography book you ordered, but hopefully it is still useful. Warning: this is going to be a bit of an essay.

Camera Settings

Arguably, the most important camera settings to understand are the f-number, shutter speed, and ISO.
  • F-number*:* The f-number essentially a ratio between the focal length of the lens and the diameter of the aperture (or entrance pupil) of the lens. Low f-numbers mean that the lens is letting in more light and smaller f-numbers mean that the lens is letting in less light. There was a nice diagram of this posted earlier. small f-numbers will also result in small depth of field, which could be good or bad depending on your objectives. It can give a blurry background which one method of highlighting a subject, but it can also lead to instances where items you want to be in focus are not (e.g, a dogs eyes in focus but its nose out of focus). Smaller f-number will give greater depth of field, which can be useful for landscape shots or environmental portraits.
  • Shutter Speed*:* The shutter speed is the length of time the shutter remains open to let light in. Keeping the shutter speed open longer lets more light in. There are two items to be concerned with when selecting shutter speed: blurry subjects due to subject movement or blurry photos due to cameras shake. If a subject is moving fast, you need a fast shutter speed to get a sharp shot. A good guideline is to use ~1/1000 second for faster motion (e.g., sports), and 1/200 seconds for portraits (you can go less, but 1/200 is pretty safe). In order to make sure that camera shake is not an issue, a good guideline is to set the shutter at 1/[the lens focal length]. So, a 70 mm lens should have a minimum of a 1/70 shutter speed. This is just a guideline, so feel free to experiment.
As previously mentioned, f-number, shutter speed, and scene luminance define the mathematical definition of exposure. However, it gets confusing because raw editors like Lightroom and Capture One typically have an exposure slider, which do not really change the exposure (it cannot go back in time and change the camera setup), but does change the brightness or lightness of the image. All the bickering about exposure is about this confusion.
  • ISO: ISO is essentially a parameter that translates the light captured by the camera to the brightness of the image you want. For example, if you take a picture in a dark room (low exposure) and want the picture to look bright, you may use a high ISO. Alternatively, you could shoot outside on a bright day but set a very shot shutter speed (e.g., 1/8000) and large f-number (e.g., f22) (low exposure), and use a high ISO setting to get a bright image. The downside to using a low exposure is that the camera is capturing less light, which results in noise .
This might be misleading to some newbies because it implies only low exposure images contain noise which is not correct.

Every digital image will contain shot noise as I defined earlier.

A low exposure image will contain less noise than a high exposure image and because the resultant SNR is low, what little noise there is will be much more visible.

A high exposure image, taken on a bright sunlit day for example, will actually contain much more noise than a low exposure low image because of the much larger amount of light hitting the sensor but because the SNR is very much larger the noise is effectively swamped by the signal and so the noise is hardly, if at all, visible.
It is typically best practice to try and meet your artistic intent and try and optimize exposure. However, I wouldn't worry about this too much about this. A little noise never ruined an image.
All of the above is essentially what I posted earlier regarding what exposure is and what controls it plus the additional information you provide.

Thank you for the write-up.
 
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I do not believe that the direction that this thread has gone is very helpful, so I thought I may add some useful content. A lot of this should be covered in the photography book you ordered, but hopefully it is still useful. Warning: this is going to be a bit of an essay.

Camera Settings

Arguably, the most important camera settings to understand are the f-number, shutter speed, and ISO.
  • F-number*:* The f-number essentially a ratio between the focal length of the lens and the diameter of the aperture (or entrance pupil) of the lens. Low f-numbers mean that the lens is letting in more light and smaller f-numbers mean that the lens is letting in less light. There was a nice diagram of this posted earlier. small f-numbers will also result in small depth of field, which could be good or bad depending on your objectives. It can give a blurry background which one method of highlighting a subject, but it can also lead to instances where items you want to be in focus are not (e.g, a dogs eyes in focus but its nose out of focus). Smaller f-number will give greater depth of field, which can be useful for landscape shots or environmental portraits.
  • Shutter Speed*:* The shutter speed is the length of time the shutter remains open to let light in. Keeping the shutter speed open longer lets more light in. There are two items to be concerned with when selecting shutter speed: blurry subjects due to subject movement or blurry photos due to cameras shake. If a subject is moving fast, you need a fast shutter speed to get a sharp shot. A good guideline is to use ~1/1000 second for faster motion (e.g., sports), and 1/200 seconds for portraits (you can go less, but 1/200 is pretty safe). In order to make sure that camera shake is not an issue, a good guideline is to set the shutter at 1/[the lens focal length]. So, a 70 mm lens should have a minimum of a 1/70 shutter speed. This is just a guideline, so feel free to experiment.
As previously mentioned, f-number, shutter speed, and scene luminance define the mathematical definition of exposure. However, it gets confusing because raw editors like Lightroom and Capture One typically have an exposure slider, which do not really change the exposure (it cannot go back in time and change the camera setup), but does change the brightness or lightness of the image. All the bickering about exposure is about this confusion.
  • ISO: ISO is essentially a parameter that translates the light captured by the camera to the brightness of the image you want. For example, if you take a picture in a dark room (low exposure) and want the picture to look bright, you may use a high ISO. Alternatively, you could shoot outside on a bright day but set a very shot shutter speed (e.g., 1/8000) and large f-number (e.g., f22) (low exposure), and use a high ISO setting to get a bright image. The downside to using a low exposure is that the camera is capturing less light, which results in noise .
This might be misleading to some newbies because it implies only low exposure images contain noise which is not correct.

Every digital image will contain shot noise as I defined earlier.

A low exposure image will contain less noise than a high exposure image and because the resultant SNR is low, what little noise there is will be much more visible.

A high exposure image, taken on a bright sunlit day for example, will actually contain much more noise than a low exposure low image because of the much larger amount of light hitting the sensor but because the SNR is very much larger the noise is effectively swamped by the signal and so the noise is hardly, if at all, visible.
That is correct, and provides some additional detailed information on the interactions between exposure and noise.
 
I've been playing with exposure compensation and zebra. I googled them since I didn't know anything about them. I had to play around with the diopter and got the viewfinder dialed in...finally I moved focus peaking to medium. High is next if this doesn't work.

And yes, I made this custom bird feeder holder..lmao. I'm normally a welder and metal fabricator...so that is what I am coming from..Talk about a change in hobbies.



What do you guys think about these two photos?



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I've been playing with exposure compensation and zebra. I googled them since I didn't know anything about them. I had to play around with the diopter and got the viewfinder dialed in...finally I moved focus peaking to medium. High is next if this doesn't work.

And yes, I made this custom bird feeder holder..lmao. I'm normally a welder and metal fabricator...so that is what I am coming from..Talk about a change in hobbies.

What do you guys think about these two photos?

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Hmmm...it still doesn't seem as sharp as I would expect, but it's always a bit hard for me to tell when viewing on my phone.

The image as a whole is a bit overexposed, but the sun makes this a very tough picture. In this case, instead of shooting into the sun, try shooting away from the sun. That should improve the results.

You may also consider using a high shutter speed (or using a tripod) and using focus peaking to make sure you are nailing focus. This is all just for test purposes (since I would expect sharper results).

What f-number are you shooting at?

Edit: I just looked at the pictures again and it is possible that the sharpness may be fine (it's hard for me to tell). The largest issue is that the bright sky and shadows make this a very challenge scene for the camera.
 
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Looking at the shadow of the bird feeder pole the sun is low and somewhere around and past the top left corner.

The dynamic range of the scene is probably more than what the camera can capture in a single photo.

You should be better off with that scene and time looking for an interesting composition with the sun behind you or at most from the side.
 
Don't worry about making money until you know how to take pictures. Put a lens on the camera, set it on either full auto or aperture priority, center focus point, and the highest quality jpeg output, and go out and take pictures. Study your images, using the EXIF to examine the choices the camera has made, and how the choices affect the results. Repeat. Ask questions. Repeat, with more knowledge. Repeat.

Repeat for the rest of your life. Eventually, you may find something you are good at that starts an income stream for you. Or you may not.
 
Shutter speed for static subjects is determined by your hand holding skills with that particular camera/lens combo. Use the aperture you need to create the depth of field effect you want, considering the relative positions of the camera, the subject, and the background, if any.
 
I've been playing with exposure compensation and zebra. I googled them since I didn't know anything about them. I had to play around with the diopter and got the viewfinder dialed in...finally I moved focus peaking to medium. High is next if this doesn't work.

And yes, I made this custom bird feeder holder..lmao. I'm normally a welder and metal fabricator...so that is what I am coming from..Talk about a change in hobbies.

What do you guys think about these two photos?

b8b70d77083b4104b73404384b58ae32.jpg

633237bce69b410ebf3e43ad7695aea2.jpg
Hmmm...it still doesn't seem as sharp as I would expect, but it's always a bit hard for me to tell when viewing on my phone.

The image as a whole is a bit overexposed, but the sun makes this a very tough picture. In this case, instead of shooting into the sun, try shooting away from the sun. That should improve the results.
I had zebra set to 100+ and focus peaking on medium. I shoot into the sun because I like the look it leaves on the backyard and trees. I understand what you are saying, I'm just not concerned right now with this since the only other way would be to turn to the house or go to the front yard which would make it all dark in front, and no one cares about seeing my house...lol

I still need to get out and take photos, but I want to get these settings down more. I keep learning something new everyday.
You may also consider using a high shutter speed (or using a tripod) and using focus peaking to make sure you are nailing focus. This is all just for test purposes (since I would expect sharper results).
I changed all settings to try to get rid of the zebra, so this is what I got. I couldn't get rid of all of it because of the obvious sun. I also don't have a tripod yet
What f-number are you shooting at?
Shoot. I can't remember. It was either all the way opened or close, because when I moved it one way it wouldn't move anymore.
Edit: I just looked at the pictures again and it is possible that the sharpness may be fine (it's hard for me to tell). The largest issue is that the bright sky and shadows make this a very challenge scene for the camera.
 
That is because the dynamic range of the scene is too large for the camera as I mentioned earlier.

You need to reduce the exposure as I mentioned earlier if you want to preserve the highlights.

Do you recall what exposure is?

But you say you are not even sure if the lens was widen open or at minimum aperture so it is not surprising at all you are having difficulties.

Didn't you check before you took the photo?

It appears to me you are using a scatter gun approach to setting your exposure settings in the hope something will work.

If you keep in your mind that

Exposure = the amount of light that hits the sensor per unit area

and that scene luminance, aperture and shutter speed affect and control exposure then photographing your scene is not rocket science.

Since you won't be bracketing and then blending exposures all you have to do is decide how well you want to preserve the sky and then set exposure settings accordingly.

Quite simple really :-)
 
High ISO, mid shutter speed, aperture wide open
High ISO, mid shutter speed, aperture wide open

HIgh ISO, 8000 shutter speed, aperture open at 16
HIgh ISO, 8000 shutter speed, aperture open at 16

ISO auto, aperture 16, shutter speed 100
ISO auto, aperture 16, shutter speed 100

ISO auto, aperture 16, shutter speed 60
ISO auto, aperture 16, shutter speed 60

I played around with the setting in a very dark room. This room has no lights on, 5 windows, but all blinds shut and they have sun shade screens on the outside of them, so it is very dark. I used the camera settings to brighten the room. I'm actually surprised how great this camera can brighten up a dark room even with a novice like me.

How can I improve the better shots here. Obviously, the first ones were grainy and dark. The other ones seem too fuzzy and bright around the edges. The middle seems better, but I'm sure I could do better?
I think you need to set the ISO to some fixed point like 200 or 400 and try to get some sense of the balance between aperture and shutter speed. Your auto ISO is varying from 100 to 65000. Try maintaining 0 EV when changing aperture or shutter speed without auto ISO.

With an adapted film lens, the aperture doesn't display, so you can't see the relationship. You're just seeing shutter speed. You don seem to be making the connection between the two.
 
played around with the setting in a very dark room. This room has no lights on, 5 windows, but all blinds shut and they have sun shade screens on the outside of them, so it is very dark. I used the camera settings to brighten the room. I'm actually surprised how great this camera can brighten up a dark room even with a novice like me.

How can I improve the better shots here. Obviously, the first ones were grainy and dark. The other ones seem too fuzzy and bright around the edges. The middle seems better, but I'm sure I could do better?
You might want to put your camera in P mode (professional mode) and see what setting your camera selects for exposure. Make note of them.

Shoot other things in P mode and make note of the settings your camera selects.

Then think about why your camera selected those setting and also about the relationship between shutter, aperture, and ISO for the light available in the scene you were trying to capture.

Just a thought, not a recommendation, just something that worked for me many years ago.
 
played around with the setting in a very dark room. This room has no lights on, 5 windows, but all blinds shut and they have sun shade screens on the outside of them, so it is very dark. I used the camera settings to brighten the room. I'm actually surprised how great this camera can brighten up a dark room even with a novice like me.

How can I improve the better shots here. Obviously, the first ones were grainy and dark. The other ones seem too fuzzy and bright around the edges. The middle seems better, but I'm sure I could do better?
You might want to put your camera in P mode (professional mode) and see what setting your camera selects for exposure. Make note of them.

Shoot other things in P mode and make note of the settings your camera selects.

Then think about why your camera selected those setting and also about the relationship between shutter, aperture, and ISO for the light available in the scene you were trying to capture.

Just a thought, not a recommendation, just something that worked for me many years ago.
I always thought P mode stood for Pointless Mode because in my experience the difference between it and full Auto mode is that P mode lets you set ISO but nothing else.

P mode, or any other mode, cannot possibly know what my DOF and motion blur requirements are so it can only make a guess at the aperture and shutter speed I want.
 
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