Histogram puzzlement

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OK, I'm trying to set up both my Z6II and Z6III so that my Histogram appears on the LCD and EVF. I've followed the following instructions:

"Press menu, go to playback menu, (the top menu with the "play" symbol) go down to "playback display options", then use the right arrow key to select what info you want displayed. Check "overview" to get the Histogram to display."

On my Z6II, pressing the Display button to the right of the EVF produces a Histogram, but all of the other information -- various focus modes, etc. -- on the top of the screen are missing.

On my Z6III, I can't get the Histogram to appear no matter what. When I press the Display button, the only thing that happens is that the green focus-assist light on front of my camera comes on.

Anybody know a better way? Thanks.
 
OK, I'm trying to set up both my Z6II and Z6III so that my Histogram appears on the LCD and EVF. I've followed the following instructions:

"Press menu, go to playback menu, (the top menu with the "play" symbol) go down to "playback display options", then use the right arrow key to select what info you want displayed. Check "overview" to get the Histogram to display."

On my Z6II, pressing the Display button to the right of the EVF produces a Histogram, but all of the other information -- various focus modes, etc. -- on the top of the screen are missing.

On my Z6III, I can't get the Histogram to appear no matter what. When I press the Display button, the only thing that happens is that the green focus-assist light on front of my camera comes on.

Anybody know a better way? Thanks.
I don't know what's up with your Z6III as I don't have one. As far as the Z6II goes, unfortunately, I think that's the way it is. I'm not sure you can have the histogram display at the same time as all the top information. If I'm doing it wrong as well I'd like to know. But that's how it is on m Z8 and Z9 as well.
 
OK, I'm trying to set up both my Z6II and Z6III so that my Histogram appears on the LCD and EVF. I've followed the following instructions:

"Press menu, go to playback menu, (the top menu with the "play" symbol) go down to "playback display options", then use the right arrow key to select what info you want displayed. Check "overview" to get the Histogram to display."

On my Z6II, pressing the Display button to the right of the EVF produces a Histogram, but all of the other information -- various focus modes, etc. -- on the top of the screen are missing.

On my Z6III, I can't get the Histogram to appear no matter what. When I press the Display button, the only thing that happens is that the green focus-assist light on front of my camera comes on.

Anybody know a better way? Thanks.
I don't know what's up with your Z6III as I don't have one. As far as the Z6II goes, unfortunately, I think that's the way it is. I'm not sure you can have the histogram display at the same time as all the top information. If I'm doing it wrong as well I'd like to know. But that's how it is on m Z8 and Z9 as well.
Right, on the Z6ii, repeatedly pressing on the DISP button to the right of the EVF will cycle through the setting display on the top of the frame, the virtual horizon, and the histogram. If you are under video capture, add the microphone sound level into the mix. However, you may have only one of those at a time. I.e. it is not possible to have virtual horizon and the histogram simultaneously.

The Z6iii's menu is different from the Z6ii's. The Z6iii is similar to the Z9 and Z8. You need to go into Custom Setting A19 and A20 to select what gets displayed in Display options 1 to 5. #1 is fixed but 2 to 5 you can custom set up. D19 is for the rear LCD while D20 is for the EVF. Those two are for still capture. Repeatedly pressing on DISP will cycle you through Display 1 to 5. Other than #1, you can also uncheck any one from 2 to 5 to skip it.

On the Z6iii, there are separate Custom Settings G16 and G17 for video.
 
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OK, I'm trying to set up both my Z6II and Z6III so that my Histogram appears on the LCD and EVF. I've followed the following instructions:

"Press menu, go to playback menu, (the top menu with the "play" symbol) go down to "playback display options", then use the right arrow key to select what info you want displayed. Check "overview" to get the Histogram to display."

On my Z6II, pressing the Display button to the right of the EVF produces a Histogram, but all of the other information -- various focus modes, etc. -- on the top of the screen are missing.

On my Z6III, I can't get the Histogram to appear no matter what. When I press the Display button, the only thing that happens is that the green focus-assist light on front of my camera comes on.

Anybody know a better way? Thanks.
HAve you checked your setting in d19 and d20. They control what options are available when you push the display button to the left of the EVF.

https://onlinemanual.nikonimglib.com/z6III/en/csmd_custom_viewfinder_shooting_display_255.html

On playback, you config what you can see here:

https://onlinemanual.nikonimglib.com/z6III/en/pbm_playback_display_options_302.html

Hope this helps. I am just getting my Z6iii set up and there are a bunch of options slightly different than my Z6, that it is confusing at times.
 
Right, on the Z6ii, repeatedly pressing on the DISP button to the right of the EVF will cycle through the setting display on the top of the frame, the virtual horizon, and the histogram. If you are under video capture, add the microphone sound level into the mix. However, you may have only one of those at a time. I.e. it is not possible to have virtual horizon and the histogram simultaneously.

The Z6iii's menu is different from the Z6ii's. The Z6iii is similar to the Z9 and Z8. You need to go into Custom Setting A19 and A20 to select what gets displayed in Display options 1 to 5. #1 is fixed but 2 to 5 you can custom set up. D19 is for the rear LCD while D20 is for the EVF. Those two are for still capture. Repeatedly pressing on DISP will cycle you through Display 1 to 5. Other than #1, you can also uncheck any one from 2 to 5 to skip it.

On the Z6iii, there are separate Custom Settings G16 and G17 for video.
Thanks. Despite having these bodies since the day they came out I think I was totally unaware of d19 and d20. It has annoyed me that if I chose to have a histogram I lost the top row of detail information. Now I know I don't have to be annoyed any longer. :D
 
Right, on the Z6ii, repeatedly pressing on the DISP button to the right of the EVF will cycle through the setting display on the top of the frame, the virtual horizon, and the histogram. If you are under video capture, add the microphone sound level into the mix. However, you may have only one of those at a time. I.e. it is not possible to have virtual horizon and the histogram simultaneously.

The Z6iii's menu is different from the Z6ii's. The Z6iii is similar to the Z9 and Z8. You need to go into Custom Setting A19 and A20 to select what gets displayed in Display options 1 to 5. #1 is fixed but 2 to 5 you can custom set up. D19 is for the rear LCD while D20 is for the EVF. Those two are for still capture. Repeatedly pressing on DISP will cycle you through Display 1 to 5. Other than #1, you can also uncheck any one from 2 to 5 to skip it.

On the Z6iii, there are separate Custom Settings G16 and G17 for video.
Thanks. Despite having these bodies since the day they came out I think I was totally unaware of d19 and d20. It has annoyed me that if I chose to have a histogram I lost the top row of detail information. Now I know I don't have to be annoyed any longer. :D
You are welcome. I started with a Z6 and then Z6ii. My third Z body was the Z9 and it took me a while to figure out those custom settings, as there are four different ones: EVF and rear LCD, and each one of those have two separate ones for still and video. But once I figured that out, the Z8 and Z6iii work the same way. I assume perhaps the Zf and Z50ii are similar (but I don't have those).
 
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OK, I'm trying to set up both my Z6II and Z6III so that my Histogram appears on the LCD and EVF. I've followed the following instructions:

"Press menu, go to playback menu, (the top menu with the "play" symbol) go down to "playback display options", then use the right arrow key to select what info you want displayed. Check "overview" to get the Histogram to display."

On my Z6II, pressing the Display button to the right of the EVF produces a Histogram, but all of the other information -- various focus modes, etc. -- on the top of the screen are missing.

On my Z6III, I can't get the Histogram to appear no matter what. When I press the Display button, the only thing that happens is that the green focus-assist light on front of my camera comes on.

Anybody know a better way? Thanks.
Z6 iii Playback (Image Review) display choices. So many possible displays to cycle through!

Thes playback display option instructions you referenced are for Playback. The d19 and d20 settings explained in this thread are for Photo Shooting mode.

So there's separate customization for Review, for EVF, and for Monitor. And separate video display customizations, of course.

To operate Playback, pressing the DISP cycles to the next review display. Or use the up/down 4-way arrows to cycle through the displays, in either direction.

Settings:

Unfortunately, the Z6 iii Hogan Guide isn't accurate or complete here, I think he repeated a different camera and didn't proof it completely.

I turned on many of the options in Playback:

[ ] = off, [x]= checkmark, on.

[ ]Focus point -- show the red focus box in the scene. I like this, but it is distracting to me.

[x] Mark first shot in series. Bursts get a count of shots, and it's easy to jump to the next burst set: Use the joystick left-right to skip to the next or previous burst. joystick up/down steps through every frame. Single frames are "bursts" of 001 with this turned on. I like this! And each burst set is a single thumbnail when zoomed out!

Display views:

....it appears that there is a stock view that can't be turned off, this gets the "first shot in series" icon, and it shows which card has this image. One row of basic shooting data at the bottom. A bit confusing when I was playing with the display settings.

--- And these checkmarks below are each separate views! if you checkmark all of them, there's 6 different views, with the "shooting data" also having it's up to 5 or more screens of data.

[ ] exposure info -- I think this is a simplified one row of exposure data at the bottom.

[x] highlights -- this shows the overexposure blinkies, and the scene is shrunk a little so that the exposure data is on the view edges, outside the scene. I use this view most of the time.

[x] RGB histogram -- a small top left quarter of the screen scene view, with the histograms stacked on the right side, and more white balance info at the bottom.

[ ] shooting data -- this is a set of 5 screens of shooting data lists -- I had this turned on since it includes the actual focal length as one of the data rows. Lots of data! It's kind of annoying to cycle through all 5 sets to get to the next display choice. Now I've turned it off again, since the focal length shows on the next view, "overview".

Oh, I see these multiple screens of data numbers can be included or excluded at the bottom section of this playback display settings lists. So it's possible to shorten the number of screens of data info.

[x] overview -- the scene only takes up a quarter of the view, like the RGB histogram page, with a large white histogram on the right, and 5 rows of shot data, including the actual focal length.

[x] none--picture only. no distractions!

[ ] file info -- just like "none", with a "6/72" shot 6 of 72 in the camera. and a burst count if that display option is on. Maybe I'll try this instead of None, but I don't want both of these.

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your Green focus assist light comes on:

This is turned on via a11: Built-in AF-Assist Illuminator =On. It doesn't turn on in AF-C, only in AF-S, and the scene has to be dark. I set a11=Off, I never use this light.

It's automatic, no button press needed to turn on the green light.

Do you have the DISP button custom setting as an alternate AF-On? (I have that setting.) That would turn on the light.
 
OK, I'm trying to set up both my Z6II and Z6III so that my Histogram appears on the LCD and EVF. I've followed the following instructions:

"Press menu, go to playback menu, (the top menu with the "play" symbol) go down to "playback display options", then use the right arrow key to select what info you want displayed. Check "overview" to get the Histogram to display."

On my Z6II, pressing the Display button to the right of the EVF produces a Histogram, but all of the other information -- various focus modes, etc. -- on the top of the screen are missing.

On my Z6III, I can't get the Histogram to appear no matter what. When I press the Display button, the only thing that happens is that the green focus-assist light on front of my camera comes on.

Anybody know a better way? Thanks.
I don't know what's up with your Z6III as I don't have one. As far as the Z6II goes, unfortunately, I think that's the way it is. I'm not sure you can have the histogram display at the same time as all the top information. If I'm doing it wrong as well I'd like to know. But that's how it is on m Z8 and Z9 as well.
Right, on the Z6ii, repeatedly pressing on the DISP button to the right of the EVF will cycle through the setting display on the top of the frame, the virtual horizon, and the histogram. If you are under video capture, add the microphone sound level into the mix. However, you may have only one of those at a time. I.e. it is not possible to have virtual horizon and the histogram simultaneously.

The Z6iii's menu is different from the Z6ii's. The Z6iii is similar to the Z9 and Z8. You need to go into Custom Setting A19 and A20 to select what gets displayed in Display options 1 to 5. #1 is fixed but 2 to 5 you can custom set up. D19 is for the rear LCD while D20 is for the EVF. Those two are for still capture. Repeatedly pressing on DISP will cycle you through Display 1 to 5. Other than #1, you can also uncheck any one from 2 to 5 to skip it.

On the Z6iii, there are separate Custom Settings G16 and G17 for video.
I don’t have a Z6III, but in trying to solve the same problem on a Z8 (f/w 2.01), I found a couple of additional requirements for the live histogram to be displayed (in addition to d19 and d20, which seem to be the same menu items on the Z6III and the Z8 f/w 2.01):
  • d9 (View mode (Photo Lv)) needs to be set to: Show effects of settings - Always
  • d10 (Starlight View) needs to be set to: OFF
YMMV.

Bill
 
Right, on the Z6ii, repeatedly pressing on the DISP button to the right of the EVF will cycle through the setting display on the top of the frame, the virtual horizon, and the histogram. If you are under video capture, add the microphone sound level into the mix. However, you may have only one of those at a time. I.e. it is not possible to have virtual horizon and the histogram simultaneously.

The Z6iii's menu is different from the Z6ii's. The Z6iii is similar to the Z9 and Z8. You need to go into Custom Setting A19 and A20 to select what gets displayed in Display options 1 to 5. #1 is fixed but 2 to 5 you can custom set up. D19 is for the rear LCD while D20 is for the EVF. Those two are for still capture. Repeatedly pressing on DISP will cycle you through Display 1 to 5. Other than #1, you can also uncheck any one from 2 to 5 to skip it.

On the Z6iii, there are separate Custom Settings G16 and G17 for video.
I don’t have a Z6III, but in trying to solve the same problem on a Z8 (f/w 2.01), I found a couple of additional requirements for the live histogram to be displayed (in addition to d19 and d20, which seem to be the same menu items on the Z6III and the Z8 f/w 2.01):
  • d9 (View mode (Photo Lv)) needs to be set to: Show effects of settings - Always
  • d10 (Starlight View) needs to be set to: OFF
On the Z6iii and Z8 alike, Starlight View must be off for the live histogram to appear. Starlight view is D11 on the Z6iii but D10 on the Z8. The Z9 should work the same way.

If Starlight View is on, when the camera is in a dark environment, the EVF will brighten for easier composition, but EVF/rear LCD brightness for composition will not correspond to the actual exposure settings. When Starlight View is off, the EVF brightness will change according to exposure settings, and the live histogram will come on.
 
I don’t have a Z6III, but in trying to solve the same problem on a Z8 (f/w 2.01), I found a couple of additional requirements for the live histogram to be displayed (in addition to d19 and d20, which seem to be the same menu items on the Z6III and the Z8 f/w 2.01):
  • d9 (View mode (Photo Lv)) needs to be set to: Show effects of settings - Always
  • d10 (Starlight View) needs to be set to: OFF
YMMV.

Bill
Ha! Thank you for the suggestion! After upgrading my Z9’s firmware, I noticed the histogram had disappeared. I reinstalled the firmware, checked the manual, and reviewed all the settings, but couldn’t find it anywhere. I even started doubting whether I had ever seen a histogram on my Z9, since I also use another camera and hadn’t picked up the Z9 for a few weeks.

Thanks to your advice, I discovered my camera was set to “Easy Viewing” mode from a recent dark studio shoot using strobes. Switching back to “Show Effects” immediately brought the histogram back. Your tip solved the problem—thank you!
 
I don’t have a Z6III, but in trying to solve the same problem on a Z8 (f/w 2.01), I found a couple of additional requirements for the live histogram to be displayed (in addition to d19 and d20, which seem to be the same menu items on the Z6III and the Z8 f/w 2.01):
  • d9 (View mode (Photo Lv)) needs to be set to: Show effects of settings - Always
  • d10 (Starlight View) needs to be set to: OFF
YMMV.

Bill
Thanks for posting this, Bill. It helped me determine why I couldn't get my Z50II to display a live histogram.

On the Z50II it is the "Adjust for ease of viewing" setting for d10 View Mode (Photo LV) that blocks the live histogram from being displayed both on the monitor and EVF.

I am new to Z mount and I don't understand Nikon's logic with this restriction. IMO this "Adjust for ease of viewing" is exactly the view mode where the live histogram would be of greatest value since the exposure is not being simulated by the display and there are no live overexposure zebras/blinkies available in any photo view mode. Why, Nikon, why? :-(
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