help! D60 noise... or something else?

[critter1]

Believe me, I feel your pain. When I bought my D60 16 months ago for $2300 and a kazillion dollars later for lenses, I expected and hoped for great success. Although this was my first DSLR, it was my third digital camera. For the price difference, I expected significantly improved performance over a P&S digital camera, in this case, a Kodak DC290, my wife's camera.

Well, it can be done, but I have to work at it. It doesn't happen by slapping on my 28-135 IS at ISO 100 and using the in camera flash to take a closeup of a military spike (tire slashing device) thrown in my driveway. Instead, I have to use a macro 100mm lens and play with different exposures on a tripod with mirror lockup and remote shutter release, and then use a mirad of adjustments in PS. The helpful wife comes in with her P&S and snap, here honey, why don't you use this?

So,..., I'm worried that your low level noise problem is going to be deemed normal performance, and that your expectations are just too high. The higher ambient temperatures may explain why you haven't had this issue before.

But please inform us of the outcome, and good luck.

BTW, I love my D60 even though it won't take better pictures than its operator.

 

[Scott Pruett]

...with my Powerbook to show the images. They weren't too sure why I was having problems, although one guy definitely saw what I was talking about.

The temperature issue was brought up, & one of the guys in the lab said to try testing it in cooler conditions w/ long exposure. SO... my D60 is on a tripod in front of a fan turned on high. I'm going to cool this sucker off for a few hours & take some shots later tonight. I bet the results will be similar.

BUT, I ran into another photographer in the store who uses a D60 too... he gave me his card & I will likely contact him to (hopefully) do some head-to-head tests with my D60 & his. He knows his stuff; he's the product photog for http://www.crutchfield.com

but MAN... I'm thinking of going back to film for a bit b/c I know it's at least reliable!

my D60 & I have a love - hate - HATE - hope-you'll-get-better-soon relationship.

if a head-to-head test doesn't go well, it's going back to Canon... arg.

 

[Steven]

Yes zooming in and increasing briteness I see red.blue and green noise. Later today I will try my D60 and see if its better or worse. Be back!

I'm so frustrated... & on the 4th no less (not shooting any
fireworks tonight). My D60 has recently been exhibiting more noise
than it should on long exposure shots. Here's a 100% crop sample:
30s @ f/11, iso100, shot in RAW.

This isn't just a dirty sensor is it? It seems like more than
that... I guess I gotta send it in... warranty lasts through
November.

--
Steve
D60
Sony 707
L fever high

--
Steve
D60
Sony 707
L fever high

 

[Scott Pruett]

I'm so frustrated... & on the 4th no less (not shooting any
fireworks tonight). My D60 has recently been exhibiting more noise
than it should on long exposure shots. Here's a 100% crop sample:
30s @ f/11, iso100, shot in RAW.

This isn't just a dirty sensor is it? It seems like more than
that... I guess I gotta send it in... warranty lasts through
November.

--
Steve
D60
Sony 707
L fever high

--
Steve
D60
Sony 707
L fever high

 

[Steven]

Just did 2 30 sec exposures at F16 and ISO 100 no noise what so ever. But I do have 3 hot Pixels which is normal. Send it in. BTW its 90 degrees here.

I'm so frustrated... & on the 4th no less (not shooting any
fireworks tonight). My D60 has recently been exhibiting more noise
than it should on long exposure shots. Here's a 100% crop sample:
30s @ f/11, iso100, shot in RAW.

This isn't just a dirty sensor is it? It seems like more than
that... I guess I gotta send it in... warranty lasts through
November.

--
Steve
D60
Sony 707
L fever high

--
Steve
D60
Sony 707
L fever high

--
Steve
D60
Sony 707
L fever high

 

[Tom Crowning]

• Outside temperature?
• number of photos taken just before this shot?

You know why I'm asking this?
tc

recent:



spring:

--
Some digital cameras, some lenses, 2 eyes

http://www.tom-crowning.com

 

[Scott Pruett]

outside temp: low 80s.

1. of photos before this shot: maybe 20, between 8-30s each. I'll dig through my RAW files & post a crop of the first of the bunch for comparison.

why you're asking? I'd assume you're referring to the fact that the sensor heats up with continual use, which could be a factor... but I don't think it's the issue here.

thanks..

• Outside temperature?
• number of photos taken just before this shot?

You know why I'm asking this?
tc

recent:



spring:

--
Some digital cameras, some lenses, 2 eyes

http://www.tom-crowning.com

 

[Scott Pruett]

I'm so frustrated... & on the 4th no less (not shooting any
fireworks tonight). My D60 has recently been exhibiting more noise
than it should on long exposure shots. Here's a 100% crop sample:
30s @ f/11, iso100, shot in RAW.

This isn't just a dirty sensor is it? It seems like more than
that... I guess I gotta send it in... warranty lasts through
November.

--
Steve
D60
Sony 707
L fever high

--
Steve
D60
Sony 707
L fever high

--
Steve
D60
Sony 707
L fever high

 

[Tom Crowning]

why you're asking? I'd assume you're referring to the fact that
the sensor heats up with continual use, which could be a factor...
but I don't think it's the issue here.

Yep, the difference between shooting at night in the winter to summer daylight stuff is like black and white, you wouldn't think those photos ware taken by the same camera.
tc

--
Some digital cameras, some lenses, 2 eyes

http://www.tom-crowning.com

 

[Alan Stone]

Clean your screen? I'm only sort of kidding, but move your image onscreen and make sure the noise moves with it.

Alan

I'm so frustrated... & on the 4th no less (not shooting any
fireworks tonight). My D60 has recently been exhibiting more noise
than it should on long exposure shots. Here's a 100% crop sample:
30s @ f/11, iso100, shot in RAW.

This isn't just a dirty sensor is it? It seems like more than
that... I guess I gotta send it in... warranty lasts through
November.

--
Steve
D60
Sony 707
L fever high

 

[Scott Pruett]

f/22, 127 seconds, 16-35/2.8 @ 35mm, iso100, RAW, saved @ jpeg:8.

1st image taken after sitting in front of the fan in the pic (which is still running) for roughly 2 hours in an air-conditioned room. The red noise is now much more obvious.

 

[critter1]

This picture has obvious yellow acne.
Much worse than the red poison ivy.

What is the room temperature?

 

[critter1]

How is this picture taken? In a room with no windows and no lights?
How else would one get this exposure?

This picture has obvious yellow acne.
Much worse than the red poison ivy.

What is the room temperature?

 

[Scott Pruett]

This picture has obvious yellow acne.
Much worse than the red poison ivy.

What is the room temperature?

 

[Scott Pruett]

the corner of the room is dark... at f/2.8 the exposure time would be 5 seconds... just did the math & watched the clock... but cut back on it just a little.

 

[Steven]

Looks like noise reduction is not working?

This picture has obvious yellow acne.
Much worse than the red poison ivy.

What is the room temperature?

--
Steve
D60
Sony 707
L fever high

 

[critter1]

Scott,

I just took a couple of 60 second exposures with my D60 in a darkened room at 83F.

None of the pictures, whether underexposed or not, showed the acne of your picture. Unfortunately, my background color was yellowish, a box, which is about the same color as your latest noise. I can't do better for a few hours here (sunset).

I had several obvious hot pixels when viewed at full size.

This picture has obvious yellow acne.
Much worse than the red poison ivy.

What is the room temperature?

 

[vladl]

Actually, I started noticing the same level of noise on my D60 recently.
It there any noise reduction function or whatever on D60?

This picture has obvious yellow acne.
Much worse than the red poison ivy.

What is the room temperature?

--
Steve
D60
Sony 707
L fever high

 

[Scott Pruett]

I had several obvious hot pixels when viewed at full size.

This picture has obvious yellow acne.
Much worse than the red poison ivy.

What is the room temperature?

 

[Scott Pruett]

I haven't touched my noise reduction settings. Never had problems like this initially.

This picture has obvious yellow acne.
Much worse than the red poison ivy.

What is the room temperature?

--
Steve
D60
Sony 707
L fever high