Actually that's not strictly true but I am fed up with carting 2Kg of D700 and glass around. I want to know whether the V2 will serve my needs. I know it'll not replace a full-frame sensor but I'm really worried about its ability to take shots of moving trains. Most reviews of mirrorless systems say it's no to action but the V2 doesn't actually say that albeit it does say slowish to focus in poor light. Or should I be looking Fuji or Sony. Bearing in mind the money for the big Nikon, I'll have about 1500 UK £ to spend. What on earth should I buy?
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Getting too old for DSLR!
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pwilly
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So true. The N1s are the action exception in mirrorless. Look at the V1/J1 review, tracking a cyclist at 10 FPS. Last summer I took my D700 and the V1 to the Pikes Peak Hill climb. In the morning we were rushed preparing food and I just grabbed the V1 and walked out to the corner near the halfway campground. The ability of the V1, or any of the N1s (Wife has a J1) to track motion in good light is phenomenal. It clears the buffer as fast as the D700 and actually does faster FPS with AF. There are some stunning deals on V1 kits out there, you should try one.
I kept the D700, but it now only goes on trips where I need low light performance. Definitely get the FT1, the V1 with the 300mm, or any tele is a gas!
whiteyblack
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The N1 system is better at shooting action than all but the best DSLRs... IF you have good light. IQ is pretty amazing for a 1" sensor... IF you have good light.
After I got my V1 I knew I didn't want to carry my D300 around anymore, but I also knew the V1 (nor V2) is good enough for everything I want to do (maybe the V3 will be). [The D300 isn't great at high ISO either, but if you're used to a D700 you'll feel like you're missing your left arm if all you have is a V2.]
So I decided to keep my V1, 18.5, FT1, and a couple AF-S F-mount lenses for action and telephoto, sell the D300 and AF lenses, and get a Fuji for low light, landscape, portraits etc.
After I got my V1 I knew I didn't want to carry my D300 around anymore, but I also knew the V1 (nor V2) is good enough for everything I want to do (maybe the V3 will be). [The D300 isn't great at high ISO either, but if you're used to a D700 you'll feel like you're missing your left arm if all you have is a V2.]
So I decided to keep my V1, 18.5, FT1, and a couple AF-S F-mount lenses for action and telephoto, sell the D300 and AF lenses, and get a Fuji for low light, landscape, portraits etc.
Interesting you both say that action's not too bad at all. The trouble with the D700 is that it's so heavy I won't have a left arm left to miss. I know what you mean about missing it - I use an RX100 too - but it's such a lot of cash sitting around for one trip a month. I never print bigger that A4 but that's a bit misleading if you crop and print A4, but if I don't take it with me, it's not taking very good pics in the cupboard back home
New guy posting. This is why I got the N series.
I started with Nikon in 1970 and am just to "old" to lug the D800 and lenses. Which sucks now that I can afford to travel globally.
The N1 V1 allows me to use Nikon and get great results even though it has a few issues. So far, nothing that is a show stopper.
Looking froward to future N1 introductions.
Ol Hippie
I started with Nikon in 1970 and am just to "old" to lug the D800 and lenses. Which sucks now that I can afford to travel globally.
The N1 V1 allows me to use Nikon and get great results even though it has a few issues. So far, nothing that is a show stopper.
Looking froward to future N1 introductions.
Ol Hippie
cosmicnode
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There is also a rumored 70-300 lens to be announced this week which would also be useful for distance shots of your trains, small compact but with equivalent reach up to 810, my Vi and 10mm 18.5 and 30-110 all fit in a hubba hubba hiney Think tnak bag ,with a little room for a 70-300.
JacquesC
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I also shoot a D700 and know all about the weight that goes with it ! About a year ago I bought the V1 + 10-30mm kit and am quite happy with it. It works very well for those times that you do not want to haul the big guns around, and it IS SNAPPY - even compared to the D700.
I think it's reasonably safe to say that the N1 bodies focusses faster than any other mirror-less out there, and it has very good buffer depth, even when shooting in RAW. It works well for action toe shots and I'm confident that a fast-moving train will not be much of a challenge. Sure, in low light it slows down, but so does every every camera.
The newer MILC's with their bigger sensors might challenge the N1 in IQ, but not in shooting moving targets.
I think it's reasonably safe to say that the N1 bodies focusses faster than any other mirror-less out there, and it has very good buffer depth, even when shooting in RAW. It works well for action toe shots and I'm confident that a fast-moving train will not be much of a challenge. Sure, in low light it slows down, but so does every every camera.
The newer MILC's with their bigger sensors might challenge the N1 in IQ, but not in shooting moving targets.
Tord S Eriksson
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Hi,
My wife got a great combo:, a RX100, and the K-30 + the DA55-300, and since a while back a V1! And access to a TF1 adapter, and my70-300. Either combo weights just slightly over a kilogram, and she brings what she needs. Works very well indeed!
The Pentax combo is cheap, and capable, the V1 + TF1 + 70-300 just slightly more expensive. This way you cover from 24-840mm! Superb!
Tord S Eriksson
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Me and my wife has one V1 each, and I mostly use mine with a wide angle lens, the 32, or an AF-S 70-300 VR.
Her basic kit is the 10-30 +the 30-110, plus a K-30 + a DA55-300 (a cheap combo).
Her normal kit isher E-M5 and a assortment of lenses, but when traveling light sheuses the Pentax and her RX100, and her V1!!!
You're now starting to talk a foreign language to me.............lol "TF1"????
Assuming I've bought the V2 - pretty definite after all your comments - what is the lens situation? Obviously there are "dedicated " lenses but what fitting are they? Are there converters?And if you convert say a D300 lens (half frame) what equivalent do you finish up with? Also. does the lens remain autofocus? When I P/ex my kit, it's possible that I might retain one of my favourites - an 11-16 Tokina - if it'll be useful.
Assuming I've bought the V2 - pretty definite after all your comments - what is the lens situation? Obviously there are "dedicated " lenses but what fitting are they? Are there converters?And if you convert say a D300 lens (half frame) what equivalent do you finish up with? Also. does the lens remain autofocus? When I P/ex my kit, it's possible that I might retain one of my favourites - an 11-16 Tokina - if it'll be useful.
oldphotog2
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I'm in your camp with age and no longer can carry the dslr equipment. The N 1 has been great for carrying around, and the IQ for me is better then my D200. The focus is just fine for action in good light. The V1 is great for single action, but the display after shot is a real drag. Use multi-frame shooting and the need to display makes one miss pics waiting for it to write (which really bothers me being a former sports photog). The V2 doesn't have this problem! I don't have the FT1 adapter but posts here have all stated that it is great; an f2.8 is an f2.8, the only drag from my understanding is it doesn't auto-Focus (I may be wrong). Supposedly in the next few days the V3 is supposed to be announced so I'd wait to see what is planned.
D300SandV1shooter
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Suggest you forget that - probably just about the least useful lens for FT1 use on a Nikon 1 camera that you could find.
JacquesC
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Careful - the Tokina 11-16 (version 1) does not autofocus on a V1 with latest firmware, I'm not sure whether the same is true for the V2. Apparently the Tokina 11-16 version 2 does autofocus.
It has been reported that a number of third-party lenses do not autofocus after applying the latest firmware to the cameras, so check it out first.
The Tokina 11-16 (version 1) - which I have - never autofocused on the V1, because it is not AF-S. It just has a screw for AF, and relies on a motor in the camera to turn the screw (which of course the V1 does not have). But there was no change in the way it operated before and after the firmware update.
However I would say that the earlier comments that it is not a useful lens on an N1 camera are justified. I have taken nearly 50,000 photos with my V1, but only 2 with this lens. One to test that it worked when I got the FT1, and one to test that it still worked after the firmware update. It is just too big to be useful in comparison to the native 10-30mm, 18.5mm, and 6.7-13mm.
JacquesC
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... I did not realise the 11-16 had no AF motor! It is a fine lens on DX - I even used it as a 16mm "prime" on FF, which worked surprisingly well but replaced it with the Nikon 14-24 not long ago.
Now, the 14-24 looks grotesque on the V1!
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Tony; You bring up a good question, I'm also beginning to feel the pain of my D700! it has a grip! so i can trim a little weight off, I'm going to watch this thread and see how folks respond to it.
I've become more curious of the newer mirror less cameras, I shoot a varity of lenses on my D700 from about 17mm to 300mm but I'm one that falls into a 24 100 range of focal length, so maybe someone can make some suggestions how i might put this together, I do not want a camera with no optical view finder, I don't want to compose on a LCD.
Right now I like the V2, just don't know that much about it and how to set it up with lens, and I have 3 "G" Nikon primes I'd like to use on a V series camera using the adapter. I have the 28 50 and 85 G primes, maybe someone could give some good advice?
The DSLRs are just getting so heavy to carry around, I don't plan on getting rid of them, just not take out so often.
My main uses are just general photography, have fun and being outside.
Thanks to anyone advising. "dog house riley"
It looks like we're two of a kind!
I think that the general consensus is that the V2 will do pretty well most things......but perhaps not quite as well as a DSLR and certainly the D700 is not replaceable. But 400 g or so is a lot less than two kilos (well one and a half!)
I'm not certain that it's better than either the Fuji or the Sony but if you're brand loyal (like me) you stay with what you know and like......and those two are a fair bit more expensive. I think that if you keep your three primes and buy a DT1 , it's a no- brainer for you. I've made my mind up to go for a V2 rather than the so called new arrival of the V3 simply because I remember how long the D3/700 series was "dead" but it just stayed.
At the end of the day, a brilliant system sitting at home takes far worse pictures than the kit you have with you and it'll be a delight to carry it all in the small (film) case than the Tamrac rucksack. The Sigma 150-500 has only been out a couple of times because of its size. If you're in any doubt, look at the pics that one contributor sent me (stevehuffphoto). I'd be proud of that quality with the kit that cost me the best part of £3000!!!
I think that the general consensus is that the V2 will do pretty well most things......but perhaps not quite as well as a DSLR and certainly the D700 is not replaceable. But 400 g or so is a lot less than two kilos (well one and a half!)
I'm not certain that it's better than either the Fuji or the Sony but if you're brand loyal (like me) you stay with what you know and like......and those two are a fair bit more expensive. I think that if you keep your three primes and buy a DT1 , it's a no- brainer for you. I've made my mind up to go for a V2 rather than the so called new arrival of the V3 simply because I remember how long the D3/700 series was "dead" but it just stayed.
At the end of the day, a brilliant system sitting at home takes far worse pictures than the kit you have with you and it'll be a delight to carry it all in the small (film) case than the Tamrac rucksack. The Sigma 150-500 has only been out a couple of times because of its size. If you're in any doubt, look at the pics that one contributor sent me (stevehuffphoto). I'd be proud of that quality with the kit that cost me the best part of £3000!!!
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