G9ii controls, change in shooting style, question on EC

[Satyaa]

Hi. I have used three different m43 bodies over the past 3.5 years. The oldest, a GH5ii is now a backup. I sold the GH6 few months ago. My current body is the G9ii.

Recently I also got a Nikon Z7ii used. For the most part I have set up both the cameras similarly with respect to controls. That way, I don't have to think too much when switching bodies.

I have been A BIG FAN of U1-U2 since D7100 more than 13 years ago. STRANGELY, in the process of setting up these two cameras with similar controls, I stumbled in the opposite direction!

Since I got my Z7ii more than two weeks ago, I am only using A-priority or S-priority on the main dial, on both cameras. I have all other controls via the dials, or the Q/i-Menu. While the initial idea was to explore, it is fast becoming a habit and not needing to go into C1-C3 or U1-U3. This is mainly because I am needing to frequently switch between A and S priority, a lot more than I ever did.

Some common setups that I use on both cameras:

• Front dial for Aperture control
• Rear-top dial for Shutter Speed
• ISO and WB on auto. Both require pressing a button and turning a wheel when I need to change it but that's a rare need
• AF-ON for BBF, shutter AF disabled
• Some other settings are in the Q-Menu / i-Menu, like picture control, silent shooting option, highlight/shadow adjustments, etc.

What's different:

• AF Mode selection is something with very different options between the two cameras and different ways to select one. I settled on "Wide Area" on the Z7ii and Zone (oval) on the G9ii, with AF position saved separately for vertical and horizontal shooting.
• The wheel around D-Pad on G9ii is configured for AF area selection, something I find very useful. Z7ii does not have this dial/wheel.

If you have experience with these two cameras, please suggest any other similarities that can make switching between them as seamless as possible.

I have two questions about G9ii controls.

1. During auto playback after a shot, I want to be able to press the OK button on the D-Pad to zoom in 50% or 100% to view image focus/sharpness. I have tried but was unsuccessful. Is this possible?
2. In the "Dial Set" configuration I chose "SET 2" as it closely matches Nikon controls. Another feature of Nikon cameras is "Easy EC". When in A-priority the rear-top dial controls EC, and in S-priority the front dial controls EC. I am trying to mimic this on G9ii.
   1. In "Dial Set", I configured EC to front dial. This works fine in S-priority, just like the Nikon camera does.
   2. In A-priority, the EC does not switch to rear-top dial (it's not designed that way). I have to use the "default" configuration. I press the EC button on the top with my index finger and turn the rear-top dial. Sometimes I forget this and wonder why the EC is not working. Can I eliminate the pressing of EC button and have the dial change EC?

Thanks.

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[yslee2]

I have two questions about G9ii controls.

1. During auto playback after a shot, I want to be able to press the OK button on the D-Pad to zoom in 50% or 100% to view image focus/sharpness. I have tried but was unsuccessful. Is this possible?
2. In the "Dial Set" configuration I chose "SET 2" as it closely matches Nikon controls. Another feature of Nikon cameras is "Easy EC". When in A-priority the rear-top dial controls EC, and in S-priority the front dial controls EC. I am trying to mimic this on G9ii.
   1. In "Dial Set", I configured EC to front dial. This works fine in S-priority, just like the Nikon camera does.
   2. In A-priority, the EC does not switch to rear-top dial (it's not designed that way). I have to use the "default" configuration. I press the EC button on the top with my index finger and turn the rear-top dial. Sometimes I forget this and wonder why the EC is not working. Can I eliminate the pressing of EC button and have the dial change EC?

Thanks.

1. No, not possible. 16x zoom on Panasonic is more or less 100%. So 3 turns on the rear dial. At least now it'll zoom in to the focus point (it's an option in the playback menu).
2. No, as a former Nikon user, the G9 II implementation really annoys the F outta me. It worked on the G9, but the way the G9 II "fixes" both the EC dial and the command dial behaviour means you cannot 100% emulate that.

 

[Satyaa]

I have two questions about G9ii controls.

1. During auto playback after a shot, I want to be able to press the OK button on the D-Pad to zoom in 50% or 100% to view image focus/sharpness. I have tried but was unsuccessful. Is this possible?
2. In the "Dial Set" configuration I chose "SET 2" as it closely matches Nikon controls. Another feature of Nikon cameras is "Easy EC". When in A-priority the rear-top dial controls EC, and in S-priority the front dial controls EC. I am trying to mimic this on G9ii.
   1. In "Dial Set", I configured EC to front dial. This works fine in S-priority, just like the Nikon camera does.
   2. In A-priority, the EC does not switch to rear-top dial (it's not designed that way). I have to use the "default" configuration. I press the EC button on the top with my index finger and turn the rear-top dial. Sometimes I forget this and wonder why the EC is not working. Can I eliminate the pressing of EC button and have the dial change EC?

Thanks.

1. No, not possible. 16x zoom on Panasonic is more or less 100%. So 3 turns on the rear dial. At least now it'll zoom in to the focus point (it's an option in the playback menu).

Thank you for that suggestion.

I am sure I tried it, but didn't work. The image plays back right after taking a shot. I have it at 3 seconds. When I turn the rear (top, not around the d-pad) dial, it goes back to shutter speed or whatever it is assigned to.

I will double-check the dial assignment in the setup. Thanks.

1. No, as a former Nikon user, the G9 II implementation really annoys the F outta me. It worked on the G9, but the way the G9 II "fixes" both the EC dial and the command dial behaviour means you cannot 100% emulate that.

Other than one or two sticky features like this, which the camera brands are crazy about, I have come very close to having both cameras behave the same way. The ability to customize them as increased tremendously with ML.

--
See my profile (About me) for gear and my posting policy. My profile picture is of the first film camera I used in the early 80s, photo credit the internet.

 

[john isaacs]

Hi. I have used three different m43 bodies over the past 3.5 years. The oldest, a GH5ii is now a backup. I sold the GH6 few months ago. My current body is the G9ii.

Recently I also got a Nikon Z7ii used. For the most part I have set up both the cameras similarly with respect to controls. That way, I don't have to think too much when switching bodies.

I have been A BIG FAN of U1-U2 since D7100 more than 13 years ago. STRANGELY, in the process of setting up these two cameras with similar controls, I stumbled in the opposite direction!

Since I got my Z7ii more than two weeks ago, I am only using A-priority or S-priority on the main dial, on both cameras. I have all other controls via the dials, or the Q/i-Menu. While the initial idea was to explore, it is fast becoming a habit and not needing to go into C1-C3 or U1-U3. This is mainly because I am needing to frequently switch between A and S priority, a lot more than I ever did.

Some common setups that I use on both cameras:

• Front dial for Aperture control
• Rear-top dial for Shutter Speed
• ISO and WB on auto. Both require pressing a button and turning a wheel when I need to change it but that's a rare need
• AF-ON for BBF, shutter AF disabled
• Some other settings are in the Q-Menu / i-Menu, like picture control, silent shooting option, highlight/shadow adjustments, etc.

What's different:

• AF Mode selection is something with very different options between the two cameras and different ways to select one. I settled on "Wide Area" on the Z7ii and Zone (oval) on the G9ii, with AF position saved separately for vertical and horizontal shooting.
• The wheel around D-Pad on G9ii is configured for AF area selection, something I find very useful. Z7ii does not have this dial/wheel.

If you have experience with these two cameras, please suggest any other similarities that can make switching between them as seamless as possible.

I have two questions about G9ii controls.

1. During auto playback after a shot, I want to be able to press the OK button on the D-Pad to zoom in 50% or 100% to view image focus/sharpness. I have tried but was unsuccessful. Is this possible?
2. In the "Dial Set" configuration I chose "SET 2" as it closely matches Nikon controls. Another feature of Nikon cameras is "Easy EC". When in A-priority the rear-top dial controls EC, and in S-priority the front dial controls EC. I am trying to mimic this on G9ii.
   1. In "Dial Set", I configured EC to front dial. This works fine in S-priority, just like the Nikon camera does.
   2. In A-priority, the EC does not switch to rear-top dial (it's not designed that way). I have to use the "default" configuration. I press the EC button on the top with my index finger and turn the rear-top dial. Sometimes I forget this and wonder why the EC is not working. Can I eliminate the pressing of EC button and have the dial change EC?

Thanks.

This is one of my main issues with the G9ii. But neither Nikon nor Panasonic allow me to set up what I want (Olympus does).

If you are just switching between A and S mode, then why not use Set 4 or Set 5 on the G9ii, which put the mode control on the same dial and you can assign EC to the other dial.

On the Nikon, you can use Change Main/Sub Mode A to use the main (rear) dial for both A and SS.

And by using Set 4 you have the same setup on both cameras.

In my case, I want SS on the front dial because changing shutter speed for me involves the most far ranging changes and it's faster with the front dial. And, I use both S and M modes, so want it on the front dial in both cases. And, I want F on the front dial in A mode as well. But I can't do both with the G9ii, because it's missing a set that puts F in mode A and SS in mode S and M on the front dial.

Neither of these cameras satisfy what I want, which is the ability to set F, SS and EC on whatever dial I want in each mode.

 

[Satyaa]

Hi. I have used three different m43 bodies over the past 3.5 years. The oldest, a GH5ii is now a backup. I sold the GH6 few months ago. My current body is the G9ii.

Recently I also got a Nikon Z7ii used. For the most part I have set up both the cameras similarly with respect to controls. That way, I don't have to think too much when switching bodies.

I have been A BIG FAN of U1-U2 since D7100 more than 13 years ago. STRANGELY, in the process of setting up these two cameras with similar controls, I stumbled in the opposite direction!

Since I got my Z7ii more than two weeks ago, I am only using A-priority or S-priority on the main dial, on both cameras. I have all other controls via the dials, or the Q/i-Menu. While the initial idea was to explore, it is fast becoming a habit and not needing to go into C1-C3 or U1-U3. This is mainly because I am needing to frequently switch between A and S priority, a lot more than I ever did.

Some common setups that I use on both cameras:

• Front dial for Aperture control
• Rear-top dial for Shutter Speed
• ISO and WB on auto. Both require pressing a button and turning a wheel when I need to change it but that's a rare need
• AF-ON for BBF, shutter AF disabled
• Some other settings are in the Q-Menu / i-Menu, like picture control, silent shooting option, highlight/shadow adjustments, etc.

What's different:

• AF Mode selection is something with very different options between the two cameras and different ways to select one. I settled on "Wide Area" on the Z7ii and Zone (oval) on the G9ii, with AF position saved separately for vertical and horizontal shooting.
• The wheel around D-Pad on G9ii is configured for AF area selection, something I find very useful. Z7ii does not have this dial/wheel.

If you have experience with these two cameras, please suggest any other similarities that can make switching between them as seamless as possible.

I have two questions about G9ii controls.

1. During auto playback after a shot, I want to be able to press the OK button on the D-Pad to zoom in 50% or 100% to view image focus/sharpness. I have tried but was unsuccessful. Is this possible?
2. In the "Dial Set" configuration I chose "SET 2" as it closely matches Nikon controls. Another feature of Nikon cameras is "Easy EC". When in A-priority the rear-top dial controls EC, and in S-priority the front dial controls EC. I am trying to mimic this on G9ii.
   1. In "Dial Set", I configured EC to front dial. This works fine in S-priority, just like the Nikon camera does.
   2. In A-priority, the EC does not switch to rear-top dial (it's not designed that way). I have to use the "default" configuration. I press the EC button on the top with my index finger and turn the rear-top dial. Sometimes I forget this and wonder why the EC is not working. Can I eliminate the pressing of EC button and have the dial change EC?

Thanks.

This is one of my main issues with the G9ii. But neither Nikon nor Panasonic allow me to set up what I want (Olympus does).

If you are just switching between A and S mode, then why not use Set 4 or Set 5 on the G9ii, which put the mode control on the same dial and you can assign EC to the other dial.

I had it on SET5 before. I changed it to match Z7ii controls.

On the Nikon, you can use Change Main/Sub Mode A to use the main (rear) dial for both A and SS.

This I was not aware of. I will try. Thanks

And by using Set 4 you have the same setup on both cameras.

In my case, I want SS on the front dial because changing shutter speed for me involves the most far ranging changes and it's faster with the front dial. And, I use both S and M modes, so want it on the front dial in both cases. And, I want F on the front dial in A mode as well. But I can't do both with the G9ii, because it's missing a set that puts F in mode A and SS in mode S and M on the front dial.

I don't mind either way. I will get used to. I just don't want it different between the two systems.

I used M in rare situations. I need to think about that as well.

Neither of these cameras satisfy what I want, which is the ability to set F, SS and EC on whatever dial I want in each mode.

True. As long as I was using one system (Nikon for about 12 years, and then Panasonic for 3 years) it was not a problem. Now that I have two side-by-side, my muscle memory is complaining.

 

[Tom Caldwell]

Hi. I have used three different m43 bodies over the past 3.5 years. The oldest, a GH5ii is now a backup. I sold the GH6 few months ago. My current body is the G9ii.

Recently I also got a Nikon Z7ii used. For the most part I have set up both the cameras similarly with respect to controls. That way, I don't have to think too much when switching bodies.

I have been A BIG FAN of U1-U2 since D7100 more than 13 years ago. STRANGELY, in the process of setting up these two cameras with similar controls, I stumbled in the opposite direction!

Since I got my Z7ii more than two weeks ago, I am only using A-priority or S-priority on the main dial, on both cameras. I have all other controls via the dials, or the Q/i-Menu. While the initial idea was to explore, it is fast becoming a habit and not needing to go into C1-C3 or U1-U3. This is mainly because I am needing to frequently switch between A and S priority, a lot more than I ever did.

Some common setups that I use on both cameras:

• Front dial for Aperture control
• Rear-top dial for Shutter Speed
• ISO and WB on auto. Both require pressing a button and turning a wheel when I need to change it but that's a rare need
• AF-ON for BBF, shutter AF disabled
• Some other settings are in the Q-Menu / i-Menu, like picture control, silent shooting option, highlight/shadow adjustments, etc.

What's different:

• AF Mode selection is something with very different options between the two cameras and different ways to select one. I settled on "Wide Area" on the Z7ii and Zone (oval) on the G9ii, with AF position saved separately for vertical and horizontal shooting.
• The wheel around D-Pad on G9ii is configured for AF area selection, something I find very useful. Z7ii does not have this dial/wheel.

If you have experience with these two cameras, please suggest any other similarities that can make switching between them as seamless as possible.

I have two questions about G9ii controls.

1. During auto playback after a shot, I want to be able to press the OK button on the D-Pad to zoom in 50% or 100% to view image focus/sharpness. I have tried but was unsuccessful. Is this possible?

I have turned off auto playback on all my cameras for many years. I set the "left arrow" key on the G9II (and G9) to an auxiliary second playback key which is so natural that it hurts. Then spin rear dial as necessary for any level of magnification that I find necessary - easy, all cameras should allow this.

1. In the "Dial Set" configuration I chose "SET 2" as it closely matches Nikon controls. Another feature of Nikon cameras is "Easy EC". When in A-priority the rear-top dial controls EC, and in S-priority the front dial controls EC. I am trying to mimic this on G9ii.
   1. In "Dial Set", I configured EC to front dial. This works fine in S-priority, just like the Nikon camera does.
   2. In A-priority, the EC does not switch to rear-top dial (it's not designed that way). I have to use the "default" configuration. I press the EC button on the top with my index finger and turn the rear-top dial. Sometimes I forget this and wonder why the EC is not working. Can I eliminate the pressing of EC button and have the dial change EC?

My admittedly small experience with a Nikon interface has only confirmed to me just how good the Panasonic interface actually is.

Thanks.

 

[john isaacs]

My admittedly small experience with a Nikon interface has only confirmed to me just how good the Panasonic interface actually is.

Panasonic finally implemented a key UI feature that lets you load custom settings to the PASM modes. I've used that feature for years, so that I can use custom settings as baselines, and then make changes as needed for the current situation without overwriting the custom settings.

And I love that the G9ii has 12 custom modes, that I can name, and that I can save them to a memory card. Features that put them ahead of Olympus. This is extremely useful when using the G9ii as a hybrid camera (stills and video).

Nikon has a problem because they actually have two user interfaces, for consumer and professional cameras. I don't think they can adequately manage two.

At any rate, I sold all my Nikon gear last year after 10 years of DSLR and Mirrorless use. The UI was one reason; the fact that they had released 4 cameras with pre-release capture that is limited to JPG only was the other.

 

[Satyaa]

I have turned off auto playback on all my cameras for many years. I set the "left arrow" key on the G9II (and G9) to an auxiliary second playback key which is so natural that it hurts. Then spin rear dial as necessary for any level of magnification that I find necessary - easy, all cameras should allow this.

That's not a bad idea.

My admittedly small experience with a Nikon interface has only confirmed to me just how good the Panasonic interface actually is.

I have used multiple Nikon cameras with U1/U2 modes and what I like is the consistency (within the same class). They have two UI classes as another response said, and I was never comfortable with the D810.

Contrary to your experience, I had tough time using GH5ii and GH6 side by side and now using GH5ii and G9ii side by side. The small changes of button placements make muscle memory hard.

The GH5ii has become the backup camera while G9ii has become the primary. Working out well so far. I shot with GH5ii at an event last weekend and it just felt so comfortable. For some reason, I prefer the GH5ii over the G9ii/S5ii bodies.

Thanks.

 

[yslee2]

Thank you for that suggestion.

I am sure I tried it, but didn't work. The image plays back right after taking a shot. I have it at 3 seconds. When I turn the rear (top, not around the d-pad) dial, it goes back to shutter speed or whatever it is assigned to.

I will double-check the dial assignment in the setup. Thanks.

That is my bad, I assumed it'll work in auto playback, but it doesn't.

Other than one or two sticky features like this, which the camera brands are crazy about, I have come very close to having both cameras behave the same way. The ability to customize them as increased tremendously with ML.

Right, it's annoying having to learn to do things their way, instead of our way.

 

[Hexlord79]

Hi. I have used three different m43 bodies over the past 3.5 years. The oldest, a GH5ii is now a backup. I sold the GH6 few months ago. My current body is the G9ii.

Recently I also got a Nikon Z7ii used. For the most part I have set up both the cameras similarly with respect to controls. That way, I don't have to think too much when switching bodies.

I have been A BIG FAN of U1-U2 since D7100 more than 13 years ago. STRANGELY, in the process of setting up these two cameras with similar controls, I stumbled in the opposite direction!

Since I got my Z7ii more than two weeks ago, I am only using A-priority or S-priority on the main dial, on both cameras. I have all other controls via the dials, or the Q/i-Menu. While the initial idea was to explore, it is fast becoming a habit and not needing to go into C1-C3 or U1-U3. This is mainly because I am needing to frequently switch between A and S priority, a lot more than I ever did.

Some common setups that I use on both cameras:

• Front dial for Aperture control
• Rear-top dial for Shutter Speed
• ISO and WB on auto. Both require pressing a button and turning a wheel when I need to change it but that's a rare need
• AF-ON for BBF, shutter AF disabled
• Some other settings are in the Q-Menu / i-Menu, like picture control, silent shooting option, highlight/shadow adjustments, etc.

What's different:

• AF Mode selection is something with very different options between the two cameras and different ways to select one. I settled on "Wide Area" on the Z7ii and Zone (oval) on the G9ii, with AF position saved separately for vertical and horizontal shooting.
• The wheel around D-Pad on G9ii is configured for AF area selection, something I find very useful. Z7ii does not have this dial/wheel.

If you have experience with these two cameras, please suggest any other similarities that can make switching between them as seamless as possible.

I have two questions about G9ii controls.

1. During auto playback after a shot, I want to be able to press the OK button on the D-Pad to zoom in 50% or 100% to view image focus/sharpness. I have tried but was unsuccessful. Is this possible?
2. In the "Dial Set" configuration I chose "SET 2" as it closely matches Nikon controls. Another feature of Nikon cameras is "Easy EC". When in A-priority the rear-top dial controls EC, and in S-priority the front dial controls EC. I am trying to mimic this on G9ii.
   1. In "Dial Set", I configured EC to front dial. This works fine in S-priority, just like the Nikon camera does.
   2. In A-priority, the EC does not switch to rear-top dial (it's not designed that way). I have to use the "default" configuration. I press the EC button on the top with my index finger and turn the rear-top dial. Sometimes I forget this and wonder why the EC is not working. Can I eliminate the pressing of EC button and have the dial change EC?

Thanks.

I use full area AF mode on both my G9ii and my Z8. Subject AF enable/disable on my G9ii front function button (bottom), Cycle AF on the Z8 equivalent.

To answer your question:

1. Nope, not possible on the G9ii but you can use your fingers to manually zoom in on the touchscreen (yes this is also a thing for the FF Lumix cameras).

2. I just use the default EC button on the respective cameras. From what you are describing it seems to be a bug?

 

[Hexlord79]

My admittedly small experience with a Nikon interface has only confirmed to me just how good the Panasonic interface actually is.

It is good but felt a bit laggy compared to the Nikon UI.

Took a short moment for playback, and turning on and off for the first time in a day will incur a penalty for startup time.

Also still feel a bit annoyed that there's no way to filter the photos and videos separately on my Nikon cameras vs Pana, also the lack of dual video record mode + Pre Capture raw.

Sorry for the rant!

 

[Tom Caldwell]

Just for hair tearing inconvenience trying to swap between an Olympus body and a Panasonic one in a darkened theatre running a final dress rehearsal using finger memory for the controls is a short cut to mental instability.

I had to standardise on just one or the other to preserve sanity.

 

[Satyaa]

Just for hair tearing inconvenience trying to swap between an Olympus body and a Panasonic one in a darkened theatre running a final dress rehearsal using finger memory for the controls is a short cut to mental instability.

I had to standardise on just one or the other to preserve sanity.

100%

I don't mind changing my habits a bit. It takes few weeks but possible to get used to the new ways. At the end, I want to be able to use both cameras similarly.

I think I'm almost there.

--
See my profile (About me) for gear and my posting policy. My profile picture is of the first film camera I used in the early 80s, photo credit the internet.

 

[Satyaa]

Hi. I have used three different m43 bodies over the past 3.5 years. The oldest, a GH5ii is now a backup. I sold the GH6 few months ago. My current body is the G9ii.

Recently I also got a Nikon Z7ii used. For the most part I have set up both the cameras similarly with respect to controls. That way, I don't have to think too much when switching bodies.

I have been A BIG FAN of U1-U2 since D7100 more than 13 years ago. STRANGELY, in the process of setting up these two cameras with similar controls, I stumbled in the opposite direction!

Since I got my Z7ii more than two weeks ago, I am only using A-priority or S-priority on the main dial, on both cameras. I have all other controls via the dials, or the Q/i-Menu. While the initial idea was to explore, it is fast becoming a habit and not needing to go into C1-C3 or U1-U3. This is mainly because I am needing to frequently switch between A and S priority, a lot more than I ever did.

Some common setups that I use on both cameras:

• Front dial for Aperture control
• Rear-top dial for Shutter Speed
• ISO and WB on auto. Both require pressing a button and turning a wheel when I need to change it but that's a rare need
• AF-ON for BBF, shutter AF disabled
• Some other settings are in the Q-Menu / i-Menu, like picture control, silent shooting option, highlight/shadow adjustments, etc.

What's different:

• AF Mode selection is something with very different options between the two cameras and different ways to select one. I settled on "Wide Area" on the Z7ii and Zone (oval) on the G9ii, with AF position saved separately for vertical and horizontal shooting.
• The wheel around D-Pad on G9ii is configured for AF area selection, something I find very useful. Z7ii does not have this dial/wheel.

If you have experience with these two cameras, please suggest any other similarities that can make switching between them as seamless as possible.

I have two questions about G9ii controls.

1. During auto playback after a shot, I want to be able to press the OK button on the D-Pad to zoom in 50% or 100% to view image focus/sharpness. I have tried but was unsuccessful. Is this possible?
2. In the "Dial Set" configuration I chose "SET 2" as it closely matches Nikon controls. Another feature of Nikon cameras is "Easy EC". When in A-priority the rear-top dial controls EC, and in S-priority the front dial controls EC. I am trying to mimic this on G9ii.
   1. In "Dial Set", I configured EC to front dial. This works fine in S-priority, just like the Nikon camera does.
   2. In A-priority, the EC does not switch to rear-top dial (it's not designed that way). I have to use the "default" configuration. I press the EC button on the top with my index finger and turn the rear-top dial. Sometimes I forget this and wonder why the EC is not working. Can I eliminate the pressing of EC button and have the dial change EC?

Thanks.

This is one of my main issues with the G9ii. But neither Nikon nor Panasonic allow me to set up what I want (Olympus does).

If you are just switching between A and S mode, then why not use Set 4 or Set 5 on the G9ii, which put the mode control on the same dial and you can assign EC to the other dial.

I had it on SET5 before. I changed it to match Z7ii controls.

On the Nikon, you can use Change Main/Sub Mode A to use the main (rear) dial for both A and SS.

This I was not aware of. I will try. Thanks

Those two changes got me what I wanted...

Both cameras now control A/S with the rear-top dial, and EC with front dial.

The AF-ON is common.

Those are the most used blind controls during a shoot when looking through the EVF.

For most others, I have to invoke the Q/i-Menu anyway.

Thanks.

And by using Set 4 you have the same setup on both cameras.

In my case, I want SS on the front dial because changing shutter speed for me involves the most far ranging changes and it's faster with the front dial. And, I use both S and M modes, so want it on the front dial in both cases. And, I want F on the front dial in A mode as well. But I can't do both with the G9ii, because it's missing a set that puts F in mode A and SS in mode S and M on the front dial.

I don't mind either way. I will get used to. I just don't want it different between the two systems.

I used M in rare situations. I need to think about that as well.

Neither of these cameras satisfy what I want, which is the ability to set F, SS and EC on whatever dial I want in each mode.

True. As long as I was using one system (Nikon for about 12 years, and then Panasonic for 3 years) it was not a problem. Now that I have two side-by-side, my muscle memory is complaining.