G1 Firmware & Focus Experiment Results

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Hi @ll!
Am I just confused?
I'm asking the same, cause the G1 definitly has NO spotfocus ... it is just spotmetering and has nothing to do with focus ... I got this info from a Canon representative in the german powershot.de forum.

Sorry and Greetings from Germany

Chris
 
Hi Marc,

yes, you should definitly update your firmware !!!

The greatest step was made from 1.0.0.0 to 1.0.0.1, cause there we got an undocumented feature ... the internal flash became more powerful ... here's an example (after updating) I shot on Feb. 2001 in complete darkness:



In the same month somebody showed a before/after shot here, which was a better proof.

No further hidden advantages are known so far.

Oh, and not to forget ... the firmware updates are cumulative, so just install firmware 1.0.0.3.

Greetings from Germany

Chris
I have the G1 and have always had probs with the focus + skin tones
with on-camera flash. I have not upgraded in the past due to being
nervous about the probs others have reported when upgrading - e.g.
camera dieing....
Is it worth me upgrading from 1.0.0.0 to ...3?

Thanks

Marc
 
I'd love to be proved wrong, but I haven't seen any dramatic change from 2 to 3.

I still find it unlikely that Canon would not broadcast any improvements had they made them.

Focus seems to be about the same as before.
 
Dave, yes you are correct. Spot metering is when I got the best results. Thank you for pointing out the error.

Morris
A question on your last test. You say you switched to
center-weighted metering and got good results. Does that imply you
were using spot metering for the first part of the test when the G1
had problems? You said you didn't use any special settings in the
first part but center-weighted metering is the default - you have
to select spot metering.

Am I just confused?

Thanks,
Dave Sparks
I have been questioning the focus improvements so many have posted
I decided to test. Focus is much faster and also accurate on my G1.

I ran the following test.
  • Macro in wide angle on a well lit black and white page of text in
macro. Focus went past sharp, moved back and stopped dead on. It
used to go back and forth and miss about 50% of the time.
  • Macro in telephoto on same subject. Same results.
  • Low light poster with text wide angel. Same results.
  • Low light of same subject in telephoto. Same results.
Since the above results were so good. I decided to try another
experiment:
  • High contrast background with a low contrast foreground beyond
depth of field. The background was a box with text and 2 very
different colors dividing the middle of the image. The foreground
object was a flesh tone figurine of Piglet. The lighting was
reflected sunlight indoors. With the old firmware the results
would have challenged the G1 focus system and the box would be in
focus. The results were a surprise. With the camera in program
and no special settings the G1 could not make up it’s mind. 50% of
the time the box was in focus, 50% of the time Piglet was in focus
and the camera took a long time to decide. I switched to center
weighted exposure and piglet snapped into focus every time.

These are wonderful improvements!

Morris
 
Chris, you are correct that the G1 dose not have spot focus. The fact that spot metering also results in spot focus is an undocumented feature.

Morris
Am I just confused?
I'm asking the same, cause the G1 definitly has NO spotfocus ... it
is just spotmetering and has nothing to do with focus ... I got
this info from a Canon representative in the german powershot.de
forum.

Sorry and Greetings from Germany

Chris
 
Marc, I have been affected by most of the things that have been fixed by the firmware. It is no fun to discover that you can not charge your battery. I have also had the dark viewfinder problem. Those were the most important upgrades to me. The improvement in focus that I suspect is there in this release is a great improvement. Skin tones should not be a problem on the G1.

Morris
I have the G1 and have always had probs with the focus + skin tones
with on-camera flash. I have not upgraded in the past due to being
nervous about the probs others have reported when upgrading - e.g.
camera dieing....
Is it worth me upgrading from 1.0.0.0 to ...3?

Thanks

Marc
 
Andy, as I stated in another thread, weather the focus is improved or not, I have taken many great photos with the G1 and continue to enjoy the camera.

Morris
I'd love to be proved wrong, but I haven't seen any dramatic change
from 2 to 3.

I still find it unlikely that Canon would not broadcast any
improvements had they made them.

Focus seems to be about the same as before.
 

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