FZ50 files unreadable problem...

Okay, i shot 4 pictures, removed card and copied files to computer via card reader, reinserted card in camera and shot 3 more, removed card and downloaded all 7 to a different folder in computer. all files on computer okay. reinserted card in camera and all files okay in camera. put the card back in reader and deleted folders (P102xxx)

I almost always put my cards in a card reader and MOVE the .jpg files to a folder on the computer and then put the card with the now empty P102xxx folder back in the camera without any reformatting and have had no trouble.
 
Thanks, I was expecting that would be the experience others would have or we would have heard more about this.

I guess I have to just accept that either it was a fluke, I have a dud of a camera, or I somehow did have the camera on (though I sure doubt that) when I pulled the card.

appreciate you confirming this

tom
Okay, i shot 4 pictures, removed card and copied files to computer
via card reader, reinserted card in camera and shot 3 more, removed
card and downloaded all 7 to a different folder in computer. all
files on computer okay. reinserted card in camera and all files
okay in camera. put the card back in reader and deleted folders
(P102xxx)

I almost always put my cards in a card reader and MOVE the .jpg
files to a folder on the computer and then put the card with the
now empty P102xxx folder back in the camera without any
reformatting and have had no trouble.
--
Tom O'Connell
 
I just read through the threads, and will offer another opinion, from another perspective and experience. I am an IT manager and have seen this problem more than several times before with both flash and usb "drives", and in my opinion has nothing to do with the camera (at least not in the way you are expressing).

In all of the instances that we experienced data loss on these types of devices, the "host" device was on, and/or the transfer was not finished when removed, or the person couldn't remember for sure if the host was on. In this scenario, the FAT (File Allocation Table for non-computer geeks) itself gets corrupted, either to the point of complete unreadability or in your case, partially (you can still see the filename entries with size info). So if that did in fact occur, the files would be written to the card, but the FAT would incorrectly locate the start byte, or offset, rendering the files useless, or partially unreadable. Reformatting the media will usaully correct the issue, but I have seen where lower level "disk" fix utlities needed to fix media descriptors to make the card/usb drive work again.

I personally do not practice what the collective opinions on this thread do - I DO NOT use a card reader whenever possible so that I am sure I will not inadvertantly corrupt the FAT either when removing card from the camera to reader, and then AGAIN when removing card from the PC.

It seems to be a relatively small percentage of times that this error occurs, considering the amount of times these devices are moved from host to host, but it only has to happen once with important data, for you to re-assess the practice.

For the incidents that I was able to identify the scenerio, the problem had almost ALWAYS occured on the PC side rather than the other host (once on a WindowsCe PDA side) so I would suggest it is probably Windows mashing the FAT, and not the camera.

-Lackosleep

P.S. Dad, I'll talk to you when I land.
 
Hi everyone,

I just come across this thread. I have the same card tranfer unreadable files with my 2G Sandisk shot with my newly bought Panasonic L1.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1033&thread=20827901

This is horrorible story. I have not yet identify where the problem are yet, but it seem I can not shoot then remove,copy, reinsert the card and shoot again with this camera. This is a real issue especially for the first time launch Panasonic L1 SLR. I have no idea why I can read all the files fine in the camera but many are unreadable after being transfered to PC.
Kind regards.
Sam H.
 
Lackosleep-

I can't argue with your reasoning, but I have been doing this method of transfer for a long time (have more than 70k images in my db)... no other camera has been implicated and this one has been twice.

I would also have felt a LOT better if panasonic support made a statement that was half that intelligent.

I am DENFINITELY being a lot more careful to be sure I have always shut down (or have the safe to remove flash) before removing card.

thanks,

tom
I just read through the threads, and will offer another opinion,
from another perspective and experience. I am an IT manager and
have seen this problem more than several times before with both
flash and usb "drives", and in my opinion has nothing to do with
the camera (at least not in the way you are expressing).

In all of the instances that we experienced data loss on these
types of devices, the "host" device was on, and/or the transfer was
not finished when removed, or the person couldn't remember for sure
if the host was on. In this scenario, the FAT (File Allocation
Table for non-computer geeks) itself gets corrupted, either to the
point of complete unreadability or in your case, partially (you can
still see the filename entries with size info). So if that did in
fact occur, the files would be written to the card, but the FAT
would incorrectly locate the start byte, or offset, rendering the
files useless, or partially unreadable. Reformatting the media will
usaully correct the issue, but I have seen where lower level "disk"
fix utlities needed to fix media descriptors to make the card/usb
drive work again.

I personally do not practice what the collective opinions on this
thread do - I DO NOT use a card reader whenever possible so that I
am sure I will not inadvertantly corrupt the FAT either when
removing card from the camera to reader, and then AGAIN when
removing card from the PC.
It seems to be a relatively small percentage of times that this
error occurs, considering the amount of times these devices are
moved from host to host, but it only has to happen once with
important data, for you to re-assess the practice.

For the incidents that I was able to identify the scenerio, the
problem had almost ALWAYS occured on the PC side rather than the
other host (once on a WindowsCe PDA side) so I would suggest it is
probably Windows mashing the FAT, and not the camera.

-Lackosleep

P.S. Dad, I'll talk to you when I land.
--
Tom O'Connell
 

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