Full Frame ???

[Richard Dutton]

No idea what the reasons for people wanting/ needing FF. ( for casual/amateur photographers - different situation I guess if you are a professional)

But, hey, why not buy just for a nice new bit of high tech ( and then stop having a go at those who desire and buy Leicas)

Fairly pragmatic myself so I got a Z6 ( A7 and d750 previously ) for:

a) for ( very ) low light photography when I cannot or don’t want to use a tripod or where there is subject movement and I have to push ISO. The 1 stop over crop does help - and AI tools help some more.

b) MILC specifically for mounting classic lenses - found them better than focal reducers on aps-c

Apart from these particulars, I always used to use crop bodies then m43 and 1 inch. Don’t feel I am missing out for my own needs. Mostly use a phone ( and an older one at that ) then 1 inch these days. The Z6 gets the occasional outing when I need a or b .

I guess the 45-60 mpx sensors are useful if you do need to print big, or crop for more effective reach, or you often want to isolate a feature in a landscape say and crop heavily in post ( provided you have the lens resolution.

 

[ZilverHaylide]

Why are so many people aledgedly looking to buy a "full frame" camera? ...any full frame camera? "Full frame" in film cameras has been exceeded many times over with smaller sensored digital cameras, if quality of output is the criteria.

I guess its "the Best" and only "the Best" syndrome at work. Heck, only "the best" is good enough for ME, even if I only have $100 or so bucks to spend.

I have one "full frame" Sony and its got it's own limitations. Big, heavy, no crop factor on lenses. Of course I get to show off my weightlifting abilities and my ability to change lenses a lot, but I can do that with my m4/3 gear or Nikon 1 gear - but the weight ain't there. And, "full frame" used to be considered so timy that it couldn't possible capture all the detail out there.

Oh, well. Only "the Best, the Best, the Best" or nothing at all. Now where are all the cheap "full frame" cameras and lenses? And the light weight ones, too?

John

I am with InkedMarie on this one. Take your pick, spend a bit of money on yourself and don't worry to go a bit overboard if it brings you joy (and doesn't blow your budget).

People spend all kinds of money on all kinds of things in any part of life. Do you need a super functional jacket worth hundreds to walk around town in winter? Do you need the top of the range sneakers to shave off every last gram for the morning jog? How much difference is there for an average user between flagship and midrange phones? Can you justify the extra tens of thousands for the marginal gains from a top end hi-fi audio system? Why would you buy a guitar for a grand if you are a casual strummer? How many people can appreciate the difference between a £50 and £500 bottles of wine?

And those are examples where there is a functional gain for the price as opposed to a luxury/status items with reduced function but elevated status and much, much more elevated price tag, which is an entirely different category. Mechanical Tag Heuers are less accurate and higher upkeep than their quartz counterparts, but they are considered a work of art and command a higher price tag. People still buy them even if one can't tell the difference when looking at your wrist.