Full Frame or Not???

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Hi All,

I'm still pondering if I should make the move to full frame. I'm having a hard time focusing on the key issues involved in this decision. If I could get some opinions on the following questions it might help:
  • What type of photographers use FF? What do they shoot mostly?
  • What are the primary pros and cons of FF?
  • What are the primary pros and cons of using an APS-C camera?
My estimated shooting preferences follow:
  • Family activities of all types (parties and kiddie activities like sports etc - flash frenquently used for indoor parties etc) - 20%
  • Macro pics of small things - mostly flowers and the like - 25%
  • Day trips by myself or with a photo buddy (mostly outdoors including wildlife) - 30%
  • Vacations where travel is involved (I like to travel light but IQ is still important) - 20%
  • Misc pics of opportunity mostly taken with my S90 (I keep the S90 with me at all times) - 5%
I thought I would keep my A550, Tamron 17-50 f2.8, and 55-200 SAM for use when I want to go light.

If I go FF, I'd probably also get the CZ24-70. Otherwise, I already have a nice selection of lenses that are suitable for FF. If I don't go FF, I'll probably get the A700 replacement when it comes out.

IQ is very important to me - I plan to start making larger prints for myself and family (my family is urging me to make larger prints).

Your thoughts and opinions will be appreciated.
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Thanks, Ed
Torrance, CA
 
Considering your shooting preferencies, FF is excessive for your. With FF you just add heavy bulky body and larger files gaining almost nothing to what and how you're shooting now.

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It sure is nice to see somebody else in the same boat! :) I've been thinking the same thing for months, and I really don't need another camera, as I hardly have time to shoot the ones I've got. But FF is on my radar,I'm just waiting to see what the A-700 replacement is going to have. Still intend on going FF though! ;)
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Hi All,

I'm still pondering if I should make the move to full frame. I'm having a hard time focusing on the key issues involved in this decision. If I could get some opinions on the following questions it might help:
  • What type of photographers use FF? What do they shoot mostly?
They shoot everything. I shoot mainly event and environmental portraits where flash is not allowed.
  • What are the primary pros and cons of FF?
Cost is the only real con. Good glass is $$ and an A900 needs good glass. The large mirror is pretty noisy compared to some smaller cameras. The Pentax K-7 is very quiet. Size does not bother, but that is a issue for some people.
  • What are the primary pros and cons of using an APS-C camera?
Do you shoot available light photography and do you like really shallow DoF? Theater? Indoor sporting events? Weddings?
My estimated shooting preferences follow:
  • Family activities of all types (parties and kiddie activities like sports etc - flash frenquently used for indoor parties etc) - 20%
A7xx - smaller lighter & faster is good for these activities.
  • Macro pics of small things - mostly flowers and the like - 25%
A7xx - More DoF than a FF. Nice to have for macro work.
  • Day trips by myself or with a photo buddy (mostly outdoors including wildlife) - 30%
A7xx - focal multiplier of the 1.5 sensor is nice to have for outdoor work.
  • Vacations where travel is involved (I like to travel light but IQ is still important) - 20%
A7xx would be fine.
  • Misc pics of opportunity mostly taken with my S90 (I keep the S90 with me at all times) - 5%
I thought I would keep my A550, Tamron 17-50 f2.8, and 55-200 SAM for use when I want to go light.

If I go FF, I'd probably also get the CZ24-70. Otherwise, I already have a nice selection of lenses that are suitable for FF. If I don't go FF, I'll probably get the A700 replacement when it comes out.

IQ is very important to me - I plan to start making larger prints for myself and family (my family is urging me to make larger prints).
What do you consider "large print"? 12MP can get you a very nice 11x14 without much work. If you invest in the software you can enlarge to poster size.
Your thoughts and opinions will be appreciated.
I think the CZ 24-70 would still be a great lens for a A7xx. I tend to shoot with the longer focal lengths (50mm and up) and 24-70 on an APS-C is nice.
 
I'm still pondering if I should make the move to full frame. I'm having a hard time focusing on the key issues involved in this decision. If I could get some opinions on the following questions it might help:
  • What type of photographers use FF? What do they shoot mostly?
  • What are the primary pros and cons of FF?
  • What are the primary pros and cons of using an APS-C camera?
David Kilpatrick has a useful article that summarizes some of the major factors: http://www.photoclubalpha.com/2008/10/16/do-you-really-need-an-alpha-900/

For me, there were several things motivating my A900 purchase (upgrade from an A300), of which going full-frame was only one. I found myself very frustrated with the available wide-angle choices on APS-C (I chose the SAL1118 over the Sigma 10-20, there not being a lot of competition). There was very little in the 24mm-equivalent range (the two exceptions being the Zeiss 16-80 and the SAL16105).

I find I almost never use the 24 megapixels to their full, giant-print potential -- but having such a high resolution means that I can crop pictures quite drastically if necessary while still having a very printable result.

Definitely keep the Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 -- I really miss that lens (which I sold along with my A300, when I found I rarely used it). I think it's a good call to keep the A550, because there are times when I really miss the live view with folding LCD.

At this point, it's probably worth waiting to see what the A7xx looks like. Experience has taught me that the camera almost always turns out to be better than the doom-and-gloom folks on the forum say it will be. If you don't like it, the A850/900 will still be there.

John
(Vancouver, BC)
 
FF has one big attractive point is making reduce to use wide angle lenses such as 18mm. By FF, you can use 28mm for your normal travel pictures. But the cost is two issues money and weight.

I made move from Nikon D80 to A850.
 
Hi All,

I'm still pondering if I should make the move to full frame. I'm having a hard time focusing on the key issues involved in this decision. If I could get some opinions on the following questions it might help:
  • What type of photographers use FF? What do they shoot mostly?
I currently use three a700s. I shoot most everything though little of people. My primary shooting is outdoors and wildlife, landscape and macro. I do macro at magnifications much greater than 1:1 as well, most scientific stuff.

I have no plans to go to FF. If I'm forced to I can adapt. For me it's more the feature set than the format, but my work suits APS.
  • What are the primary pros and cons of FF?
  • What are the primary pros and cons of using an APS-C camera?
Most people compare specific cameras and claim that the difference between FF and APS-C is whatever those differences. Many of those things are not inherant in FF or APS.

FF, less DOF, if you shoot to have nearly everything out of focus and a very thin DOF FF will give a little thinner DOF for any particular aperture. No advantage if you shoot for photos that are sharp throughout with as much DOF as you can get. You will get more DOF with APS. The difference is not as great as people think.

For FF Wide angle lenses will be wider thus considered better for those that like to shoot wide photos. "photographing the whole picture" Though with the availability of super wide lenses for APS the difference is not that great.

But tele will be shorter for FF (covering a wider field) and to catch up with APS on that will require a heavier, more expensive kit. Or shooting free field in the viewfinder and cropping will be necessary.

APS Somewhat lighter, though comparing a plastic camera to a metal bodied one is not the way to tell the difference. The tele reach using the full frame of the viewfinder will be greater. APS is good for shooters who prefer to photograph details.

APS uses the central portion of a lens field compared to FF. To get the same central quality in the outer part of FF requires higher quality lenses, or may not be available at all. This adds greatly to the price of a FF kit if you are after best quality.
My estimated shooting preferences follow:
  • Family activities of all types (parties and kiddie activities like sports etc - flash frenquently used for indoor parties etc) - 20%
No problem with a700.
  • Macro pics of small things - mostly flowers and the like - 25%
  • Day trips by myself or with a photo buddy (mostly outdoors including wildlife) - 30%
For macro and tele APS does have advantages. Better DOF, and depending on the particular sensor, macro at the same magnification will record more detail. That's certainly true for the a700 which is 12MP vs a900 which the APS crop is 11MP, even more so with your a550 or what one can expect the a7xx to have in MP.

Note that the current a900 & a850 have a crippled A mode making some of my macro, T/S, photomicrography and so on a problem as you loose the ability of the camera to measure and set the exposure. Only sometimes is that easily possible to do manually. That alone is why I have three a700s, to preserve a big chunk of my shooting.

The claim that you can shoot and crop out of FF leaves out that you will be composing in a free field, not the frame of the viewfinder. If shooting rapidly moving subjects there is a big advantage composing in the full frame you see in the viewfinder.
  • Vacations where travel is involved (I like to travel light but IQ is still important) - 20%
The a700 is just fine for that, if you can carry the bulk and weight. FF is even bigger to carry.
  • Misc pics of opportunity mostly taken with my S90 (I keep the S90 with me at all times) - 5%
I have and use a Minolta Z6 for bike touring, where the weight and bulk of DSLRs is a big problem. It's a compromise in what I can shoot, but works well enough as I don't tend to be primarily doing photography when out touring.
I thought I would keep my A550, Tamron 17-50 f2.8, and 55-200 SAM for use when I want to go light.
The only argument against that is that you generally will get most familiar with your camera and thus give yourself a edge photographically by using just one camera model.

Not a bad idea to keep your current camera. If you find it's not necessary you can sell it later.
If I go FF, I'd probably also get the CZ24-70. Otherwise, I already have a nice selection of lenses that are suitable for FF. If I don't go FF, I'll probably get the A700 replacement when it comes out.
Note that the a900 is nearly as old as the a700, is the same generation of technology. And the a850 is just a cut down version of the a900, same technology. At this point if I needed FF I'd be waiting for the next generation unless I had to have it now.

The CZ24-70 is a fairly good quality lens for either APS or FF.
IQ is very important to me - I plan to start making larger prints for myself and family (my family is urging me to make larger prints).
Back when I shot with the RD-175, which was a 3ccd DSLR that shot raw files of 1.1meg in size, I gave some of my shots to Minolta. Later they showed me the results, poster size prints that were very good. The a700 is capable of pretty large prints for someone that knows what they are doing. The biggest problem with doing very many large prints is where you can display them. Does not take long to fill the walls. I hardly do prints anymore most everybody I know shares photos electronically. And that's likely to become more so in the future.

Walt
 
I think FF is overkill for many applications. Today's best APS-C sensors with good glass deliver phenominal quality. For portrait photography I routinely sell prints up to 11x14 even on images cropped down to the 6-8MP range and the prints are great.

Do I want a FF Sony and the best Zeiss glass to go with it? You bet I do. But I've also found that my A700 can make excellent large prints. When I first got the A700 I printed a 24x36 inch image on our large HP photo plotter at work. I've never made a print that large except to test what my camera can do, and I was stunned by how good it looked. Granted it was the full image (no cropping) but after that I realized I have no actual need for FF, it would be satisfying my gear lust more than anything.

If you've got the cash and it's what you want then go for it.

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I'll try to answer your question, but first I would ask why do you want to go to a FF camera? My choice to do so was governed by my previous experiance with film in that APS-c seemed like a compromise to me and it changed my way of "seeing" versus FF. That is a personal choice. I also had only FF lenses from Minolta. I have sold every piece of Minolta gear after going FF.

The advantage of FF is two fold. First, a wide angle is back to being wide again. With the advent of some of the newer, high quality APS-c ultra wides, this is less of an advantage. The second advantage is the pictures themselves - the detail and even bokeh "look" different. I can tell the difference between my A700 and A900 photos based on the look on screen, not so much so in print. YMMV.

Full frame is not perfect and has many disadvantages. Cost is a large one as is weight. On some lenses, vigetting is also a concern and 24 mpix really shows the quality of your lenses and technique, or the lack thereof.

For what you listed below, I'd recommend you stay with APS-c unless you really want to spend some $, especially if you have any APS-c only lenses. The lack of weight and cost are huge advantages versus FF. I'd also highly recommend that you borrow or rent an A850/900 and CZ24-70 prior to purchase to see if it really is your cup of tea. I have loaned to others my setup; neither of them went FF due to the cost and weight issues. Personally, once I bought the A900 my A700 was never used again. This is a very individual choice. I'd let you borrow my gear if you were closer.

Bryan
Hi All,

I'm still pondering if I should make the move to full frame. I'm having a hard time focusing on the key issues involved in this decision. If I could get some opinions on the following questions it might help:
  • What type of photographers use FF? What do they shoot mostly?
  • What are the primary pros and cons of FF?
  • What are the primary pros and cons of using an APS-C camera?
My estimated shooting preferences follow:
  • Family activities of all types (parties and kiddie activities like sports etc - flash frenquently used for indoor parties etc) - 20%
  • Macro pics of small things - mostly flowers and the like - 25%
  • Day trips by myself or with a photo buddy (mostly outdoors including wildlife) - 30%
  • Vacations where travel is involved (I like to travel light but IQ is still important) - 20%
  • Misc pics of opportunity mostly taken with my S90 (I keep the S90 with me at all times) - 5%
I thought I would keep my A550, Tamron 17-50 f2.8, and 55-200 SAM for use when I want to go light.

If I go FF, I'd probably also get the CZ24-70. Otherwise, I already have a nice selection of lenses that are suitable for FF. If I don't go FF, I'll probably get the A700 replacement when it comes out.

IQ is very important to me - I plan to start making larger prints for myself and family (my family is urging me to make larger prints).

Your thoughts and opinions will be appreciated.
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Thanks, Ed
Torrance, CA
 
Which works better?

I guess if I was in a high speed crash maybe the Mercedes? A bigger heavier car. A specialized situation for sure. The rest of the time maybe the Lexus as is less ostentatious and makes a lot more sense financially and probably rides just as well.

FF a bigger heavier APSC which will give you a better IQ if you have to crop big. Con is hugely expensive to get long telephoto large aperture lenses and heavy to carry around with those lenses.

Just a thought 70-200 2.8 Tamron is US$700. What does a 100 - 300 f2.8 lens cost for FF. Uh they don't make that do they? So what is a 300 f2.8 Tamron/Sigma to give you that reach equivalent reach with f2.8? US$3,000 and that is not a lens you want to walk around with.

Argument is but you can crop on the 70-200 f2.8 on your full frame. Well sure you can but then you have the IQ the same or not quite as good as your APS-C would give. Meanwhile if you have an APS-C camera you are walking around with a much lighter package most of the time or else you are cropping your FF to match so what is the point?

Obviously there are some other advantages/disadvantages between FF and APS-C but neither has an overall advantage in IQ in all circumstances. APS-C better DOF for macro but FF better DOF if trying to isolate subject from background. Etc. etc. etc.

So which is better overall. Neither. I would like to have both but might stick with A700 if I had to have one or the other. A lot cheaper to go long on APS-C than FF and some pretty good SWA's now available for APS-C. I rarely use 1.4 on my 50mm or f2.8 on any of my other lenses so the DOF isolation issue is less of an important feature to me.

That being all said I would like to have an A850 to go with my A700 but not instead.

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For the kind of photography you are listing I would go for the APS-C format. Lighter bodies, lighter and much more affordable lenses, and image quality that matches FF for prints up to 1 meter (40 inches) wide. Try one of the new Sony cameras with live view, like the A550. I got the chance to test an A550 for some days, and I have to say that there are much to like about this camera!

With FF you get a bigger and brighter viewfinder and image quality for very large prints. The downside is bulk, weight and cost.
 
The advantage of FF is two fold. First, a wide angle is back to being wide again. With the advent of some of the newer, high quality APS-c ultra wides, this is less of an advantage. The second advantage is the pictures themselves - the detail and even bokeh "look" different. I can tell the difference between my A700 and A900 photos based on the look on screen, not so much so in print. YMMV.
Yes, the "wide angle advantage" of FF compared with APS is a very important factor. If you put a 24mm lens on the A900, you get 24mm, but if you put a 24mm lens on an A700, you get 36mm (and at the wide angle end I find this is a big difference).

Consider also the image dimensions of FF vs APS, for example, the A900 has 6048 x 4032 pixels, but the A700 has 4272 x 2848 pixels. Therefore, the maximum image width of the A900 is nearly 42% larger than that of the A700. This means that the so-called telephoto advantage of a crop camera can be largely offset by cropping an A900 image to the same FOV as an A700 image as shown here:

http://www.robsphotography.co.nz/crop-factor-advantage-s700-s900.html

Consider also the overall quality of the image of a FF camera vs that of an APS-C camera as, for example, shown here:

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/eng/Image-Quality-Database/Compare-cameras/ (appareil1) 326%7C0 (appareil2) 308%7C0 (onglet) 0 (brand) Sony (brand2) Sony

I agree that the downsides are the weight and cost of a FF camera, but if you want the extra quality, cropping power, and print size of FF images, for some people, this is a small price to pay. Ideally, it's good to own both FF and APS, you can then select which one best suits the occasion! But you will probably find that you mainly select your FF camera, even if you have to lug it around for long distances.

Regards
Rob
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An example of the outstanding resolution of the A900
 
  • What type of photographers use FF? What do they shoot mostly?
Among Sony users, I suppose they shoot exactly the same things as APS-C photographers. Canon and Nikon make cameras specifically for fast action (sports), and they use cropping to achieve speed, but the A900 differs from the A700 mainly in the size of its sensor, not speed.
  • What are the primary pros and cons of FF?
Cons:
File sizes, camera size and weight, price.
Pros:

Large sensor/image size, wideangle posibilities, shallower depth of field (if so desired)
  • What are the primary pros and cons of using an APS-C camera?
Cons:

Small sensor/image size, crop factor on wideangle lenses, not as shallow depth of field.
Pros:

File sizes, camera size and weight, price, telephoto posibilities (but the A900 shots can be cropped to similar effect), great depth of field (if so desired)
My estimated shooting preferences follow:
  • Family activities of all types (parties and kiddie activities like sports etc - flash frenquently used for indoor parties etc) - 20%
Indoor parties mean wideangle, so full frame has the edge. A 24-70 mm f:2.8 will give you more flash reach than a 16-80 mm f:3.5-4.5.
  • Macro pics of small things - mostly flowers and the like - 25%
Bigger sensor means higher magnification with larger subjects, so full frame definitely has an advantage here. If you take two frame-filling shots - one in either format - the full frame shot will have much higher resolution.
  • Day trips by myself or with a photo buddy (mostly outdoors including wildlife) - 30%
That's where APS-C comes into its own. You get a lighter package with greater reach.
  • Vacations where travel is involved (I like to travel light but IQ is still important) - 20%
The extra weight of the A900 means little if the lenses are the same, and many full frame lenses have no APS-C equivalent, especially fast lenses.
  • Misc pics of opportunity mostly taken with my S90 (I keep the S90 with me at all times) - 5%
I don't think that'll shift the balance in either direction.
I thought I would keep my A550, Tamron 17-50 f2.8, and 55-200 SAM for use when I want to go light.
That's a good idea. I couldn't get what I wanted for my A700, so I deciced to keep it, though mostly to have both a tele and a wideangle camera at airshows and such - keeping a 500 mm mirror or 70-200 mm on the A700, and wider lenses on the A900.
If I go FF, I'd probably also get the CZ24-70. Otherwise, I already have a nice selection of lenses that are suitable for FF. If I don't go FF, I'll probably get the A700 replacement when it comes out.
The 24-70 mm is a great lens, but so is the 16-80 mm on APS-C, and it's cheaper.
IQ is very important to me - I plan to start making larger prints for myself and family (my family is urging me to make larger prints).
Full frame it is!
 
Robsphoto wrote:
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I agree that the downsides are the weight and cost of a FF camera, but if you want the extra quality, cropping power, and print size of FF images, for some people, this is a small price to pay. Ideally, it's good to own both FF and APS, you can then select which one best suits the occasion! But you will probably find that you mainly select your FF camera, even if you have to lug it around for long distances.
Just this seems to be the behavior of owners of a850 and A900, good to own both ff and aps-c, but they always use the ff, so something most be right and better with ff .... or maybe it's just to keep us tempted to go ff ;)
 
The crop just crops away the inferior part of FF image circle. And you have a chance to get some good lenses not designed for FF and use those lenses comfortably.
The one and only bad thing with the crop is that you can't uncrop it.
 
WOW - so much good advice. So much to digest. It's impossible for me to thank everyone individually.

I'm a little concerned the A900 may cause me to use my tripod more often then I do today. If I've understood correctly, a FF sensor requires a smaller aperture to get the same DOF which in turn causes slower shutter speeds. In addition, the A900 isn't great at high ISOs (the A700 is better at high ISOs I think) thus causing the use of slower shutter speeds in low light. If the two previous statements are true, I'll need to use a tripod in many situations where I can handhold my A550 today. I may have misuderstood and confused myself.

I really like the improved IQ and resolution of the A900 at lower ISOs. The creative opportunities of the A900s are exciting (DOF and larger VF). I can deal with the increased size and cost.

I guess I'm still confused. Does anyone know where I can rent an A900 in the greater Los Angeles area? I think I would feel better giving the A900 an extended test drive before buying one.

Once again, I really appreciate everyones input and advice.

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Torrance, CA
 
WOW - so much good advice. So much to digest. It's impossible for me to thank everyone individually.

I'm a little concerned the A900 may cause me to use my tripod more often then I do today. If I've understood correctly, a FF sensor requires a smaller aperture to get the same DOF which in turn causes slower shutter speeds. In addition, the A900 isn't great at high ISOs (the A700 is better at high ISOs I think) thus causing the use of slower shutter speeds in low light. If the two previous statements are true, I'll need to use a tripod in many situations where I can handhold my A550 today. I may have misuderstood and confused myself.

I really like the improved IQ and resolution of the A900 at lower ISOs. The creative opportunities of the A900s are exciting (DOF and larger VF). I can deal with the increased size and cost.

I guess I'm still confused. Does anyone know where I can rent an A900 in the greater Los Angeles area? I think I would feel better giving the A900 an extended test drive before buying one.
If you do that you will end up buying the A900. The VF is probably the best you can get without dropping $6,000.00..... Take it for a walk one evening and see how the weight feels after an hour or two.
 
I made the jump from APS-C to 35mm FF last November after a great deal of deliberation. The “crop factor” of lenses, no matter the actual scientific reality that ‘a focal length is a focal length’ regardless of the sensor, is a very real issue. The same lenses with different sensor sizes act differently, plain and simple. However, in the real-world case of Sony cameras, the difference when using an APS-C specific lens on, lets say, an a700 and an a900 is minimal with the exception that it is more difficult to frame the a900 using those little APS-C corner brackets. What that means is that, if you wish, you can shoot APS-C style with the FF a900/a850 with no loss of anything. But you can’t shoot FF style with an APS-C camera. When switching from an APS-C Nikon D300 to a relatively low pixel count FF Nikon D700, the size of the the APS-C image on the D700 is smallish. Of course there, you can gain ISO. And there often is the potential for weight and size savings with APS-C…but not always... look at that Nikon example.

However, there are a number of factors also that are not easy to quantify; they are camera specific and require very personal choices. As a general rule moving to FF means a more expensive camera and a more expensive camera often includes other benefits. They often have more accurate or faster focusing as the a900/a850 is extremely accurate. They often have a bigger and brighter viewfinder as the a900/a850 viewfinders are simply magnificent. My glasses prescription is bizarre enough that the a900 is actually too big/wide but the slight difference of the a850 makes it perfect for me. They often have a camera body that is fuller featured with properties like the oft discussed MLU, PC connection for flash etc. But, like gold, feature set is where you find it and only you can decide what is important. They typically have a larger body that is more comfortable to handle for some people like myself. In the case of the a850 that I use, the cropping potential is simply enormous. I posted this recently but it applies to this thread.



For some photographers who compose particularly well in-camera this is not a big deal but I’m an imperfect sort of guy. I wouldn’t hesitate to print the cropped image at 12x18 for a garden variety wall hanging.

Having the potential for large numbers of pixels is not necessarily synonymous with FF but in the Sony line up it is. I just don’t buy a rationale for not using the entire capabilities of the camera because the file sizes are too large. Hard drive space is cheap and so is 4 GB RAM. However I do shoot RAW+JPEG with the Jpeg setting at 6MP, sort of like a giant thumbnail.

Going FF with almost 25MP necessitates, at the very least, decent FF glass to optimize its potential. That can get expensive quickly and it can limit choices. However, I am very satisfied with the quality of imagery possible with my lens lineup and by today’s standards I have a modest financial investment in them.

In short, other than the monetary outlay, for ME, I see virtually no substantive reason not to go FF. Admittedly that is not a trivial issue.

The a700 is a great full featured camera but for me, I suspect I would jump to a 4/3s dSLR before I went back to APS-C, as the only compelling reason to move is size and weight. For a backup carry-everywhere-camera I’m thinking of getting a canon G11.

Right now, I’m a very happy camper.

Bruce

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In addition, the A900 isn't great at high ISOs (the A700 is better at high ISOs I think) thus causing the use of slower shutter speeds in low light.
A fact that isn't often referred to, is that the Sony A900 has larger sized pixels than the Sony APS-C cameras. Usually, the larger the pixel size, the better the light gathering capability, so I'm not sure why the A700 should be better at high ISOs? In fact, theoretically, the A900 should be better at high ISO's than, for example, the A700 or the A550.

The pixel pitch in microns (approximate width of one pixel) of the A900 is 5.9, the A700 is 5.5, and the A550 is 5.1, as calculated here:

http://www.robsphotography.co.nz/crop-factor-advantage-a550-a900.html

Regards
Rob
 

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