Fuji F11 more Improved Features

[gary payne]

Better check the post "F11 Samples" at this site to see if you can handle the horrible CA this camera is capable of. check out the nite shot in particular, but the others are bad too.

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[Hellashot]

ALL the improvements, except LCD, are firmware revisions. They will not release it as updated firmware the the F10 and they've probably put something in the firmware that will not go into an F10 - like model recognition which is just like some computer software that won't install on Windows 95 because it can read the software version and it is coded to not install if Windows 95 was detected - only to keep people buying new versions of windows. It's a huge rip off because US companies only need to support products for 5 years by federal law, which is why companies come out with new versions yearly, and with Fuji more than once a year - so their support length does not overextend and drag on their profits.

 

[vissa]

I've never heard that US companies have to support products for 5 years. Where did you hear that?

By the way, I agree with you about the firmware thing. Fuji is sticking it to us F10 owners by not allowin us access to a patch. ESPECIALLY since they won't be releasing the F11 in the US. It would cost them almost nothing to patch the F10 since the software is obviously already written. Unlike some other users here, I don't think companies should be allowed to withhold firmware updates they already have designed. Fine, charge a small fee if you have to, but release it. I don't think they understand that it causes customers to think negatively about them. This is my first Fuji product and my opinion of the company is going down.

-V

ALL the improvements, except LCD, are firmware revisions. They
will not release it as updated firmware the the F10 and they've
probably put something in the firmware that will not go into an F10

• like model recognition which is just like some computer software

that won't install on Windows 95 because it can read the software
version and it is coded to not install if Windows 95 was detected -
only to keep people buying new versions of windows. It's a huge
rip off because US companies only need to support products for 5
years by federal law, which is why companies come out with new
versions yearly, and with Fuji more than once a year - so their
support length does not overextend and drag on their profits.

 

[Hellashot]

The 5 year support is a federal law. It's one reason why the 5D, 20D, 10D, XT (Canon cameras) all have different RAW formats - a support length termination key.

It's why you no new software will run on Windows 95 and most now won't run on Windows 98 - pure end of life support clause to cut support costs for companies. It's why smart companies change products slightly and call it a new model or version instead of a free update.

 

[Bernard Languillier]

I think (based only on my pretty bad memory) that the FZ2 was
actually released before the FZ! firmware upgrade. Additionally,
this is the only time ever, that I can recall, that a camera
manufacturer did this (provide a firmware upgrade with pretty much
all the features of a new camera).

Nikon did the same with the D70s and D70 firmware v2.0.

Regards,
Bernard

 

[grum]

The 5 year support is a federal law. It's one reason why the 5D,
20D, 10D, XT (Canon cameras) all have different RAW formats - a
support length termination key.

It's why you no new software will run on Windows 95 and most now
won't run on Windows 98 - pure end of life support clause to cut
support costs for companies. It's why smart companies change
products slightly and call it a new model or version instead of a
free update.

Some new software won't run on 95/98 because XP has different internals. It has nothing to do with support, only in the sense that the software doesn't "support" 95/98. But the only reason the software isn't compatible with 95/98 is because of the differences between XP and 95/98, since 2000/XP are based on NT. If 2000/XP had been based on 98 then the software would still work on 98. It's not a choice that has anything to do with cutting support costs.

 

[swwm]

Samples here

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/review/2005/10/14/2491.html

 

[sproket1]

Told me the E11 will NOT be released in the US. Fuji Japan wanted it priced too high for the US market according to the Fujifilm USA rep at their exhibit booth. They decided not to bother.