From Pentax: Full Frame Camera in Development!

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Roland Mabo wrote:

There is room in the market for a Pentax APS-C with 100% viewfinder,
long life shutter up to 1/8000, magnesium alloy body, more dials and
switches and more pocessing power.
... and is there in addition to the above, an improved AF and metering as well? I think together - that would make a killer package. But I won't get too ahead of myself, as you have noted that adding too many things at once is too expensive... hope not in this case.

Nic
 
..and they were all fiascos. Case closed.
They weren't fiascos in terms of performance and functionality. It was very good cameras and I still enjoy my *ist DS. They did not do so well on the market, not because the cameras was bad but because they lacked a special feature and reason to buy them instead of the competition.

When Pentax introduced shake reduction and weather sealing at affordable prices, they offered something the competition did not have and beacuse of this the K serie became a hit.
There will be siginificant price and feature difference between them
in a price sensitive segment.
But there will be a significant price and feature difference between a K1D and K20D/K30D too.
The K20D and K200D market position have probably more to do with
component sharing, and hence saving cost, than cynical product
placement. They are too close to each other.
Too close?
The K200D is a very much a crippled body compared to the K20D.
Crippled in features, performance and operability.

A small buffer, a pentamirror instead of pentaprism, no HyperProgram because it has only one e-dial. It has much more menu driven interface and p&s bells and whistles.

The difference between the K200D and K20D are way more than the difference between the *ist D and DS was.

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Ricehigh, if nothing else always had the ability to bring threads here to the 150 threshold

here is my contribution, I can't help it, I am so sorry

Ian

Oh P.S. on his blog did you see he had written 103 articles in 19 months.
 
With the K20D they could re-use 80% of the K10D R&D. Pentax did not tell us about their K10D / K20D plans ahead of presentation. They took competition completely by surprise. Suddenly they choose to talk about FF plans in advance. When a company advertise about FF plans in advance then it can't be aimed at the competition. It must be aimed at the present users. If you look closely at what Pentax says regarding FF there is absolutely no sign of a promise regarding release time. I think Pentax grew tired of all the doom predicted here in case Pentax does not release a FF DSLR soon.

You may very well have information that I don't have but I don't see how you can base your prediction on the Pentax statements presented in this forum so far.

This is actually a case where I would like to be proven wrong. I just hope people here will remember the statement debated in this thread in case Pentax does not release a FF DSLR soon.

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Lets not get too excited here...ok some of the market may like the idea of FF Samsung (Pentax) but seriously....to suggest that "The Market" is heading to FF is a bit rich.

I think Oly with their mini 4/3's are thinking that maybe a 4/3's range finder is where the market is headding.
 
Hi Lance,
Would I be interested in a FF DSLR? I would, but not so much for
the small advantage in image quality(which is always welcome), but
more so for the big bright viewfinder that I loved with my 35mm film
camera and also that it would be nice to be able to use my FA/FA* FA
Limited lenses as they were intended, too. :-)
Just my 2cents worth.
I have nothing more to say. You said exactly what I feel about an FF DSLR body. I guess great minds do think alike. :) LOL.

Peter

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Jim,

My comments were not necessarily directed at you as I know you are level headed and fair. More of general comment to all and my speculation. :-)
With the K20D they could re-use 80% of the K10D R&D. Pentax did not
tell us about their K10D / K20D plans ahead of presentation. They
took competition completely by surprise. Suddenly they choose to talk
about FF plans in advance. When a company advertise about FF plans in
advance then it can't be aimed at the competition. It must be aimed
at the present users. If you look closely at what Pentax says
regarding FF there is absolutely no sign of a promise regarding
release time. I think Pentax grew tired of all the doom predicted
here in case Pentax does not release a FF DSLR soon.
Very good point, Jim. I never thought of it that way.
You may very well have information that I don't have but I don't see
how you can base your prediction on the Pentax statements presented
in this forum so far.
The way things have presented themselves have lead me to my conclusions, rightly or wrongly, and I have no inside info on this matter just my speculation. The reason I say what I said has more to do with the power of Samsung than with any behind the scenes moves by Pentax.

Samsung may have been developing the 14.6Mp sensor well prior to the K20D introduction and we never knew anything about it. I am also speculating that Samsung may have actually produced this sensor prior to their tie up with Pentax and this is the very reasion why Samsung approached Pentax for the tie up so that they could introduce it in their own Samsung DSLR. In order to do this, Samsung required a lens mount and lenses to go with it and Pentax was the obvious answer. The reason Pentax must have been a logical choice to Samsung was due to the fact that Nikon may have still wanted to stay tied to Sony, Canon make their own sensors, Minolta went with Sony and Olympus have their own system, which leaves Pentax even if Samsung had considered any of these. Samsung may have wanted to go with Pentax anyway as they have a great reputation and are a known brand.
This is actually a case where I would like to be proven wrong. I just
hope people here will remember the statement debated in this thread
in case Pentax does not release a FF DSLR soon.
I guess we have to put a time limit on what we call soon. :-)

I would suggest that we will see a FF camera from Pentax before the end of 2009 depending on lens development - and this is my "out clause". ;-) This again is pure speculation and my reason is that things move fast in the world of electronics, especially if what I say is true and that Samsung have already developed the FF sensor. Having said that, Pentax will need to get a move on with lens FF development and the Hoya tie up may be the panacea to aid this along.

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Would I be interested in a FF DSLR? I would, but not so much for
the small advantage in image quality(which is always welcome), but
more so for the big bright viewfinder that I loved with my 35mm film
camera and also that it would be nice to be able to use my FA/FA* FA
Limited lenses as they were intended, too. :-)
Just my 2cents worth.
I have nothing more to say. You said exactly what I feel about an FF
DSLR body. I guess great minds do think alike. :) LOL.
LOL. Of course! ;-)
Peter

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My PBase Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/pfang
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