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[MightyMike]

I thought we dropped the subject... it guess you don't know what that means
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[lee lindquist]

I thought we dropped the subject... it guess you don't know what that means

Mike -- I never posted anything suggesting that "we" dropped the subject.

But, you can assume anything you'd like. As you did with your first reply
to me in this thread.

 

[Richard Murdey]

Ai lenses have to have the meter coupling rim removed to work on Pentax, otherwise they will only mount very very loosely.

Removed? That sounds drastic.

 

[Allan Brown]

Ai lenses have to have the meter coupling rim removed to work on Pentax, otherwise they will only mount very very loosely.

Removed? That sounds drastic.

Not as drastic as it sounds, but it does involve modifying the lens - something I want to avoid.

However, all my Pre-ai primes work well without changing anything on the lens. This was the reason I bought the K-x rather than a second D40 or whatever.

The Pre-Ai's do not have to be modified.

Allan

 

[Allan Brown]

I thought we dropped the subject... it guess you don't know what that means

Mike -- I never posted anything suggesting that "we" dropped the subject.

But, you can assume anything you'd like. As you did with your first reply
to me in this thread.

Mike please stop responding to Lee. All he wants to do is hijack a good thread which encourages discussion and fill it with his crap.

He has done it before and will do it again. His sort just like disrupting. See his "stunts" on the Canon forum.

On the other hand, he is keeping the thread alive so more intelligent people can see it and make up their own mind on the concept.

thanks

Allan

 

[lee lindquist]

He has done it before and will do it again. His sort just like disrupting. See his "stunts" on the Canon forum.

What "stunts" would those be, Allan?

My only recent posts on the canon forum have been some comments on
the G11, an attempt to help a gent with a problem using flash, and some
comments on some rude fan boys who mercilessly bashed one guy for
posting something negative.

Perhaps you can post a like to one of the "stunts"...

But, I doubt it.

 

[neil holmes]

Ai lenses have to have the meter coupling rim removed to work on Pentax, otherwise they will only mount very very loosely.

Removed? That sounds drastic.

Yes it is a bit but then the lenses I do it to are worth it.

I have only done it to my Nikon 85 1.8 to date. That was less than $100 with a ratty exerior but the glass is ok ans the iq is as good as a lens costing several times that.

A Nikon 35 1.4 needs more drastic surgery...maybe even a non ai one to use fully (removing the fin around the rear element to stop vignetting).

The real decison will come when I get a 200 f2 ai.....might pay someone to convert THAT properly instead of just covering up the glass and using a rasp to hack of the rims. Seems to get further away from me all the time though.

neil

 

[John Tracy]

Obviously Nikon doesn't consider there is a compelling need or market for that capability in an entry digital body and I have to agree.
Legacy lenses are not what interests the entry level purchaser .

As we have seen with the D5000, you can mount any Nikkor lens ever made on that body, so Nikon has the ability to do more, however is not giving the majority of Nikon users the same or better.

Exactly. I can mount all my Pre-Ai lenses on my D40 and, while they work well, there is no metering. Ever since the D40 came out and people discovered it could mount the old lenses without having to modify the lens, they have been asking for a meter. There are now 4 successors to the D40 and still no meter.

That plus the in-body IS is a real K-x selling point for me.

Allan

 

[Allan Brown]

Obviously Nikon doesn't consider there is a compelling need or market for that capability in an entry digital body and I have to agree.
Legacy lenses are not what interests the entry level purchaser .

Perhaps, but Pentax is certainly advertising the fact that all their new bodies will support older Pentax lenses even the M42 mount.

What do they know that Nikon does not?

Anyway, I am not about to go and buy new versions - if they exist - that will work on my D40 and I am not going to buy a D300 just to get metering. Also, I am not going to modify my lenses just so they will mount on a D90 or D300.

As has been said by many before, invest in glass before bodies. I have some good glass and I am just looking for a body that I can use them on. The Pentax K-x seems the best option at the moment.

Allan

 

[larsbc]

Obviously Nikon doesn't consider there is a compelling need or market for that capability in an entry digital body and I have to agree.
Legacy lenses are not what interests the entry level purchaser .

Perhaps, but Pentax is certainly advertising the fact that all their new bodies will support older Pentax lenses even the M42 mount.

What do they know that Nikon does not?

It's not necessarily that they know something that Nikon does not. It's that they're in a different position from Nikon. Canon and Nikon are the market leaders. Pentax knew that it had to offer Pentaxians a reason to stay with Pentax. Including extensive support for legacy glass was one of the reasons they came up with. They also knew that most of their DSLR buyers were going to be existing or former Pentax users.

[snip]

As has been said by many before, invest in glass before bodies. I have some good glass and I am just looking for a body that I can use them on. The Pentax K-x seems the best option at the moment.

If you're happy going that route, all the more power to you.

larsbc

 

[MightyMike]

I'd agree with the whole Nikon and Canon being market leaders but support for legacy Pentax glass has always been there long before digital and long before AF, that support wasn't added, it was just never removed.
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[lee lindquist]

So, Allan -- you said you were posting this information to help people.

Will you be posting an update?

I read some of your posts from the past few days -- where you purchased
and returned two pentax bodies, and then declared the model defective.

Do you find not being about to use nor actually own the body
impacts the compatibility you were bragging about?

I know you'd want to let folks know.

 

[Allan Brown]

So, Allan -- you said you were posting this information to help people.

Will you be posting an update?

I read some of your posts from the past few days -- where you purchased
and returned two pentax bodies, and then declared the model defective.

True, I did purchase then return two K-x cameras.

I never declared the model defective. I guess your reading problem is showing up again. I said the two bodies I had were defective because of a battery problem in some of the production - not the entire model line. Others also reported this problem while others did not.

Do you find not being about to use nor actually own the body
impacts the compatibility you were bragging about?

Your written English is also poor. By this I believe you are asking that by not having the K-x, I can't use it to take photos with my Nikon Pre-Ai's? Well, I will leave you to figure that one out.

While I did have the K-x, I did take some nice photos with my old Nikon lenses. This camera does have very good Hi ISO capability. I took some at 12, 800 which are just as good if not better than my D40 at 3200.

With the old Pre-Ai's, yes, the exposure meter does work, the in-body stabilizer works and I enabled the trap focusing.

So, once Pentax has resolved the battery issue, I will buy another.

Oh, by the way, thank you for reviving this thread. It means more Nikon people who own old Pre-Ai's will have a chance to read it.

Allan

 

[lee lindquist]

Oh, by the way, thank you for reviving this thread. It means more Nikon people who own old Pre-Ai's will have a chance to read it.

I'm always happy to help out a buddy like you, Allan.

And, I agree with you. It is good that Nikon people who own old
lenses read this. That way, in the future, they can take advice from
people who actually have, and have used the gear they're bragging about,
instead of know-nothings who simply repeat what they've read with
out having any personal experience.

And, how's the in-body image stabilazation and trap focusing that you
were bragging about working out for you?

Too funny.

 

[MightyMike]

And, how's the in-body image stabilazation and trap focusing that you
were bragging about working out for you?

Are you daft, he already said it worked just fine, maybe you should learn to read!

Too funny indeed
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[lee lindquist]

And, how's the in-body image stabilazation and trap focusing that you
were bragging about working out for you?

Are you daft, he already said it worked just fine, maybe you should learn to read!

Mike, I realize logic is beyond you, and you simply post to get out your aggression.
The are lots of tough guys hiding behind keyboards on the internet, and you're
just one more...

Anyway, it's amusing to have read all the bragging about how compatialble
the lenses are, and how the body will give him stabilazion and trap
focusing.

If he can't get the body to work, and has since returned it, obviously
the supposed features offer little utility to Allan.

 

[Patco]

And, how's the in-body image stabilazation and trap focusing that you
were bragging about working out for you?

Are you daft, he already said it worked just fine, maybe you should learn to read!

Mike, I realize logic is beyond you, and you simply post to get out your aggression.
The are lots of tough guys hiding behind keyboards on the internet, and you're
just one more...

Anyway, it's amusing to have read all the bragging about how compatialble
the lenses are, and how the body will give him stabilazion and trap
focusing.

If he can't get the body to work, and has since returned it, obviously
the supposed features offer little utility to Allan.

Perhaps if you read Allan's post several more times, it will become increasingly clearer.

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Patco
A photograph is more than a bunch of pixels

 

[lee lindquist]

Perhaps if you read Allan's post several more times, it will become increasingly clearer.

Really? When the camera is back at the dealer, what utility does
trap focus offer the legacy lens owner?

 

[MarkCav]

Fantastic

So, Allan -- you said you were posting this information to help people.

Will you be posting an update?

I read some of your posts from the past few days -- where you purchased
and returned two pentax bodies, and then declared the model defective.

Do you find not being about to use nor actually own the body
impacts the compatibility you were bragging about?

I know you'd want to let folks know.

Bloody fantastic

 

[MightyMike]

Well until the battery detection device in the small crop of cameras is figured out he can borrow my K20D and use his Nikon Pre-AI lenses on it... he doesn't need to own the camera to know and show that the utilities of Metering, Shake Reduction and Trap Focus work and allow him to use those lenses more effectively on a Pentax body then on any other Nikon body. So i suspect you'll be bumping this thread again when he goes back and buys a K-x after the battery issue is addressed right? i mean you need to right, you've got nothing better to do? no life? can't take a picture worth a damn so you have to argue based on the smallest points in a post that attacks your fanboy attitude? right?

Get a life! Hope i don't hear from you when he picks up a new K-x!
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