eye-AF and metering mode question

[aarif]

I don't think there is a way to link the eye-AF with the metering mode. which causing the image to over or under expose if the AF point is some where else. like the background which is much brighter for example. wish that Sony could come up with a firmware to link them together when using the eye-AF.

or am I missing something

 

[goodbokeh]

I don't think there is a way to link the eye-AF with the metering mode. which causing the image to over or under expose if the AF point is some where else. like the background which is much brighter for example. wish that Sony could come up with a firmware to link them together when using the eye-AF.

or am I missing something

Try a custom setting on the dial.

 

[aarif]

I don't think there is a way to link the eye-AF with the metering mode. which causing the image to over or under expose if the AF point is some where else. like the background which is much brighter for example. wish that Sony could come up with a firmware to link them together when using the eye-AF.

or am I missing something

Try a custom setting on the dial.

how can you set the metering to the eye-AF in the first place then I can do a Custom setting on the dial.

 

[goodbokeh]

I don't think there is a way to link the eye-AF with the metering mode. which causing the image to over or under expose if the AF point is some where else. like the background which is much brighter for example. wish that Sony could come up with a firmware to link them together when using the eye-AF.

or am I missing something

Try a custom setting on the dial.

how can you set the metering to the eye-AF in the first place then I can do a Custom setting on the dial.

It's a secret handshake ;-)

 

[robert614]

I don't think there is a way to link the eye-AF with the metering mode. which causing the image to over or under expose if the AF point is some where else. like the background which is much brighter for example. wish that Sony could come up with a firmware to link them together when using the eye-AF.

or am I missing something

I just tried spot metering with the “Spot Metering Point” set to Focus Point Link to see if the camera would meter off the Eye AF focus point. No dice.

The camera meters off the Center Spot Focus Point. Exposure changes if I hover over dark or light colors with the spot metering circle. Even though I have the Green Eye-AF box continuously on the eye.

However. I believe when in multi metering mode, if the camera detects a face, the camera will meter off the face. I could be wrong about that though.

What metering mode do you typically use?

 

[RoBiK75]

I don't think there is a way to link the eye-AF with the metering mode. which causing the image to over or under expose if the AF point is some where else. like the background which is much brighter for example. wish that Sony could come up with a firmware to link them together when using the eye-AF.

or am I missing something

Try a custom setting on the dial.

how can you set the metering to the eye-AF in the first place then I can do a Custom setting on the dial.

It's a secret handshake ;-)

He is asking about the metering, he obviously already knows how to activate Eye-AF.

 

[aarif]

I just tried spot metering with the “Spot Metering Point” set to Focus Point Link to see if the camera would meter off the Eye AF focus point. No dice.

The camera meters off the Center Spot Focus Point. Exposure changes if I hover over dark or light colors with the spot metering circle. Even though I have the Green Eye-AF box continuously on the eye.

However. I believe when in multi metering mode, if the camera detects a face, the camera will meter off the face. I could be wrong about that though.

What metering mode do you typically use?

typically I use spot metering set to focus point link. in some cases I shoot Manual Mode just to avoid this issue but even in M mode I can't use Auto-ISO for the same reason. entire screen works best but it's not perfect. to move the AF point to where the eye is slows you down. I really think Sony should link eye-AF with metering by firmware update.

But i'm not sure if they're aware of this issue and I haven't seen anyone talking about it.

thanks for your reply

 

[aarif]

I guess you have no idea what I'm talking about or is it the beer talking

 

[Carerra]

I guess you have no idea what I'm talking about or is it the beer talking

you cant

 

[aarif]

you cant

that's why Sony should be aware of this and try to do it with a firmware up date.

 

[Carerra]

you cant

that's why Sony should be aware of this and try to do it with a firmware up date.

I have recently made a thread about eye + AFC or AFS, I think many things will come to eye AF soon

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[aarif]

you cant

that's why Sony should be aware of this and try to do it with a firmware up date.

I have recently made a thread about eye + AFC or AFS, I think many things will come to eye AF soon

Come meaning what? firmware or in the new models?

 

[Carerra]

you cant

that's why Sony should be aware of this and try to do it with a firmware up date.

I have recently made a thread about eye + AFC or AFS, I think many things will come to eye AF soon

Come meaning what? firmware or in the new models?

 

[aarif]

I think many things will come to eye AF soon

this is what you said and that's why I asked. maybe you should have said I hope instead

 

[robert614]

I just tried spot metering with the “Spot Metering Point” set to Focus Point Link to see if the camera would meter off the Eye AF focus point. No dice.

The camera meters off the Center Spot Focus Point. Exposure changes if I hover over dark or light colors with the spot metering circle. Even though I have the Green Eye-AF box continuously on the eye.

However. I believe when in multi metering mode, if the camera detects a face, the camera will meter off the face. I could be wrong about that though.

What metering mode do you typically use?

typically I use spot metering set to focus point link. in some cases I shoot Manual Mode just to avoid this issue but even in M mode I can't use Auto-ISO for the same reason. entire screen works best but it's not perfect. to move the AF point to where the eye is slows you down. I really think Sony should link eye-AF with metering by firmware update.

But i'm not sure if they're aware of this issue and I haven't seen anyone talking about it.

thanks for your reply

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I’ve been thinking about this. If Sony did incorporate spot metering off the Eye-AF, would it meter differently for people with different colored eyes?

Would someone with dark eyes cause it to overexposed? Conversely, would someone with light blue eyes cause under exposure?

I’m thinking if the camera is smart enough to find eyes. Then it knows those eyes belong to a face. So the camera would ideally meter off the face.

You could still call it Eye-AF metering. But technically, the camera would meter off the face.

 

[aarif]

Think of it this way generally before eye-AF shooting wide-open with a fast lens you focus on the eye so this will be the same thing. the spot metering will move to the eye if they could be somehow linked.

 

[Sakisf]

Perhaps you could do back button AF by linking AEL button to AF, enable AE with shutter and disable AF with shutter, then set metering to spot. This way, you can either half press shutter to lock exposure on eye then use back button to AF on it, or set exposure from another location and while shutter button is half pressed and exposure locked you can continue with AF through back button.

Don't know the menus & specifics of A7M3 but the above might seem more efficient to you.

 

[aarif]

I think it will be more simple to just move the AF point then all that. or just shoot in full manual. I think Sony should be aware of this and add it by a firmware up date.

the metering should be linked to the eye-AF when activated.

 

[robert614]

Think of it this way generally before eye-AF shooting wide-open with a fast lens you focus on the eye so this will be the same thing. the spot metering will move to the eye if they could be somehow linked.

 

[aarif]

Now if you can only convince Sony to incorporate it.

the thing is I don't know if they are aware of this or not. never heard anyone else talk about it. perhaps if we could make a lot of noise here they will pick it up