EVF & Focus peaking ??

[lickity split]

I've never owned a camera ( excluding a phone) that had this and to me seems like it's pretty useless and just add's another gimmick that Nikon seem's to be adding to every DSLR they produce ( Auto fine-tuning, Snapbridge, split screen display zoom.....) just to help sell the next product which is great as long as its not just another half-a$$ attempt like we have seen in the past.

Getting back to the point in all the image samples I seen of what focus peaking is its mostly sports related ( why put it in the D8xx) and to have a "highlighted" area in the viewfinder is one of the last things I'd wanna see while shooting something ,it'll interfere with seeing what's actually being captured ,not enhance it.

I trust what I see thru the viewfinder AS IS and to screw it up by putting electronics into it seems like a big mistake to me but like I said I never owned one

I don't need a EVF or focus peaking for this..

or this

Seriously ?

Dunno but to ME this is not appealing in the least......

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[samhain]

It's not "mostly sports related", I'm not sure where you got that from. If anything, it's 'mostly related' to shooting videos and manual focusing.

If you don't know what it is, it probably won't be of much use to you.

 

[ravduc]

I use focus peaking and the magnifier on my Sony A7ii and can testify that they are very useful when using manual lenses. If Nikon implements live view (evf) through the viewfinder, you will find it very useful for macro photography or any other time when you need to focus very accurately. On my DF I simply use the dot, and that seems to work fine as well, but if could switch back and forth between an evf and optical viewfinder, that would be even more useful. Evf's are also very useful for displaying accurate exposures in difficult lighting situations. They also provide continuous histograms; another useful feature. I don't see why we should not have live view displayed through the viewfinder instead of the back screen. If Nikon doesn't do it, then I think that we can expect this feature to appear on other makes such as Canon or Pentax.

 

[L Copps]

An HVF would offer the best of both viewfinders and eliminate shortcomings of both. If Nikon wants to get serious with video, and HVF would make a useless viewfinder useful for video. and a clumsy EVF for sports more useful with an OVF.

Personally, I reject the whole premise of EVF of taking creative control away from the photographer, but a HVF would allow the photographer to use the conveniences and keep creative control.

 

[d750guy]

I've never owned a camera ( excluding a phone) that had this and to me seems like it's pretty useless and just add's another gimmick

I didn't read the rest of your post but maybe you should try it before calling it a useless gimmick??

 

[olstrup]

Focus peaking - especially combined with magnification - is very useful for manual focusing. With my ageing eyes I find it much easier to nail manual focus accurately with focus peaking on my Sony A7S than with the green dot and/or a split screen (microprism focusing screen in a SLR. I find the two methods to be about equally fast/slow, and both are slower than a with Leica M rangefinder (which, however, is not as accurate).

I'd say that focus peaking is not very well suited for sports and other fast paced activities. Here a DSLR with a fast AF lens is still my preferred tool though the EVF cameras are beginning to catch up as far as AF speed is concerned with Sonys A9. But when one can take the time, a mirrorless camera with small but good primes (for example Leica M if one have them in the closet) can give good results with a lower weight and bulk than DSLR gear with big and heavy "pro" AF lenses.

Of course with AF, focus peaking is not useful and can be switched off.

 

[lickity split]

I've never owned a camera ( excluding a phone) that had this and to me seems like it's pretty useless and just add's another gimmick that Nikon seem's to be adding to every DSLR they produce ( Auto fine-tuning, Snapbridge, split screen display zoom.....) just to help sell the next product which is great as long as its not just another half-a$$ attempt like we have seen in the past.

Getting back to the point in all the image samples I seen of what focus peaking is its mostly sports related ( why put it in the D8xx) and to have a "highlighted" area in the viewfinder is one of the last things I'd wanna see while shooting something ,it'll interfere with seeing what's actually being captured ,not enhance it.

I trust what I see thru the viewfinder AS IS and to screw it up by putting electronics into it seems like a big mistake to me but like I said I never owned one

I don't need a EVF or focus peaking for this..

or this

Seriously ?

Dunno but to ME this is not appealing in the least......

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OK its starting to make a little sense now and one of the reasons I thought it was sports was of the sample images that popped up via a google search I can see a use for it for manually focusing with macro work but other then that it seems like another market gimmick, we shall see. Thank you for explaining..

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[Highland grey beard]

According to the latest from Nikon Rumors this is now an academic discussion as far as the D850 is concerned!

Having experienced focus peaking on a number of cameras I agree that its real value is with manual focusing whether macro or not. In those circumstances it is not a gimmick.

 

[olstrup]

.... I can see a use for it for manually focusing with macro work but other then that it seems like another market gimmick, we shall see.

It's very useful and certainly not a gimmick for any manual focusing, not just macro. I use it all the time with my Sony A7S and have a very high keeper rate (at least as accurate focus is concerned). Focus peaking is more forgiving for camera shake when using long lenses than a focusing screen. A lens like the Leica M Tele-Elmar 135/4 was never too popular with Leica M cameras because it was hard to focus with a rangefinder. On a Sony A7X camera with focus peaking, focus can be nailed very precisely, and for many the lens have revealed itself as stellar - something which was hidden behind focusing inaccuracies with a rangefinder. With focus peaking I consistently get sharp shots with an old handheld Nikon 400/5.6 AI-S.

Like I said, focus peaking is not the answer to everything. It's not well suited to fast moving subjects (unless you are good at prefocusing like we did in the "good old days"), and of course it's of no use with AF.

 

[rumple]

I've never owned a camera ( excluding a phone) that had this and to me seems like it's pretty useless

It's actually pretty essential in some circumstances.

I don't need a EVF or focus peaking for this..

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Seriously ?

Your last example is from an Atomos external recorder - used for video.

Focus peaking is very nearly mandatory for (some types of) video. When focusing manually and viewing a smallish (as in, reasonably portable) screen, it's the fastest way to see what's in focus.

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"THINK" - Watson

 

[lickity split]

I've never owned a camera ( excluding a phone) that had this and to me seems like it's pretty useless

It's actually pretty essential in some circumstances.

I don't need a EVF or focus peaking for this..

[...]

Seriously ?

Your last example is from an Atomos external recorder - used for video.

Focus peaking is very nearly mandatory for (some types of) video. When focusing manually and viewing a smallish (as in, reasonably portable) screen, it's the fastest way to see what's in focus.

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"THINK" - Watson

Is this what you would see thru the viewfinder while recording or while reviewing the recorded video ?

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[olstrup]

Only while recording.

 

[klavrack]

We find it to be hugely beneficial for macro photography, and the primary reason we have not sold our Pentax equipment off and switched over to Nikon exclusively.

 

[Clayton1985]

I've never owned a camera ( excluding a phone) that had this

Your phone has an EVF or focus peaking or both?

 

[lickity split]

I've never owned a camera ( excluding a phone) that had this

Your phone has an EVF or focus peaking or both?

An EVF ,I use the phone's display as the cameras viewfinder and it is electric, focus peaking I can say I never even handled a camera that,s had it

 

[Alex Permit]

We find it to be hugely beneficial for macro photography, and the primary reason we have not sold our Pentax equipment off and switched over to Nikon exclusively.

Agree, very useful for macro where proper focus is critical, as well as any photo where you take your time setting up and composing a shot.

 

[EricGuzman]

I've never owned a camera ( excluding a phone) that had this

Your phone has an EVF or focus peaking or both?

At n EVF ,I use the phone's display as the cameras viewfinder and it is electric, focus peaking I can say I never even handled a camera that,s had it

 

[Sitti]

Maybe it's not for you but I actually love it. Something that I wish my Nikons had it.

 

[Bill Janes]

We find it to be hugely beneficial for macro photography, and the primary reason we have not sold our Pentax equipment off and switched over to Nikon exclusively.

Agree, very useful for macro where proper focus is critical, as well as any photo where you take your time setting up and composing a shot.

+1. Focus peaking is very useful for focus stacking in determining the start and end focus points in stacks with relatively high magnification macro shooting. It doesn't even have to be highly accurate. One can extend focus at both extremes slightly and the stacking software will select the shots with best focus.

 

[Too many usernames]

I've never owned a camera ( excluding a phone) that had this and to me seems like it's pretty useless and just add's another gimmick that Nikon seem's to be adding to every DSLR they produce ( Auto fine-tuning, Snapbridge, split screen display zoom.....) just to help sell the next product which is great as long as its not just another half-a$$ attempt like we have seen in the past.

Getting back to the point in all the image samples I seen of what focus peaking is its mostly sports related ( why put it in the D8xx) and to have a "highlighted" area in the viewfinder is one of the last things I'd wanna see while shooting something ,it'll interfere with seeing what's actually being captured ,not enhance it.

I trust what I see thru the viewfinder AS IS and to screw it up by putting electronics into it seems like a big mistake to me but like I said I never owned one

I don't need a EVF or focus peaking for this..

or this

Seriously ?

Dunno but to ME this is not appealing in the least......

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/lickitysplit11111/

Focus peaking is new to me so I would like find out a bit more about it...assuming the red indicates the area of focus how is that area being defined?