DXO new user - round tripping to PS or affinity?

[Digital Nigel]

As I’m sure you know, but sometimes need a reminder, what you see on the edit screen doesn’t reflect all your edits. So, often the image is going to look much better on export than it does on screen. The loupe tool is worth using, and it’s nice that it stays active as you do edits.

An excellent piece of advice. I have seen YouTube channels where the guy always uses the fit to screen image to assess the image and unfortunately, with PhotoLab this is not a good idea. You need to use software correctly and each piece of software has its own quirks.

Loope Tool was a much needed addition to PL.

Ian

If you want to really see you can always export a 16. Bit tiff with only perspective and deep xd applied to th RAW.

That was doesn’t help you see the effects of the edits.

It helps a lot! So, what edits? The idea is to use only Deep Prime and eventually perspective corrections. The rest you can do on the Tiff file.

No, the advice was on how to see the effects of your edits, not to do no edits.

 

[Flycaster]

I am using PL 7E, and have also found the need to shift over to Photoshop Elements in order to do a better repair job than can be done (consistently) in PL7E. Nonetheless, I'm holding off for PL9, and look forward to its better repair tool (as it appears to be in PL8.)

I don't think the tool changed in PL8, and I'd be surprised if it changes in PL9. The functionality is already excellent.

If the repair functionality is excellent, then it must be when in your hands and not mine (and others.) Therefore, I assume that I am not using this tool correctly. Aside from keeping the edges somewhat fuzzy, what else do you recommend? BTW, I really like PL and am eagerly awaiting to update to PL9, when available.

 

[maltmoose]

As I’m sure you know, but sometimes need a reminder, what you see on the edit screen doesn’t reflect all your edits. So, often the image is going to look much better on export than it does on screen. The loupe tool is worth using, and it’s nice that it stays active as you do edits.

An excellent piece of advice. I have seen YouTube channels where the guy always uses the fit to screen image to assess the image and unfortunately, with PhotoLab this is not a good idea. You need to use software correctly and each piece of software has its own quirks.

Loope Tool was a much needed addition to PL.

Ian

If you want to really see you can always export a 16. Bit tiff with only perspective and deep xd applied to th RAW.

That was doesn’t help you see the effects of the edits.

It helps a lot! So, what edits? The idea is to use only Deep Prime and eventually perspective corrections. The rest you can do on the Tiff file.

No, the advice was on how to see the effects of your edits, not to do no edits.

Not sure if anyone has noticed but it seems to me that when you use high quality preview mode it also improves the quality of the loope but Id have thought the loope would always show the export quality but it doesnt seem to.

Secondly, i really wish they would add a filter so you can filter on tif files or any other file for that matter.

Just a guess but i suspect most just have it filtered on RAW. So you round trip an export to an application and you cant see your tif. what do you unfilter to see it? i dont want to see all the jpeg as well and have even more preview slow downs that you get with increased image count.

 

[ishwanu]

... Just a guess but i suspect most just have it filtered on RAW.

I filter in different ways depending on what I want to see at the time.

So you round trip an export to an application and you cant see your tif. what do you unfilter to see it?

You have to include RGB images, which always means both TIFFs and JPEGs.

i dont want to see all the jpeg as well and have even more preview slow downs that you get with increased image count.

First, sort by image format, which will group all JPEGs together so you can deal with them all at once.

To see or hide TIFFs or JPEGs, you can designate individual files or groups as Unassigned (the default), Picked, or Rejected, and filter accordingly. You can revise the assignments at any time. There are also color assignments you can use instead.

 

[Digital Nigel]

I am using PL 7E, and have also found the need to shift over to Photoshop Elements in order to do a better repair job than can be done (consistently) in PL7E. Nonetheless, I'm holding off for PL9, and look forward to its better repair tool (as it appears to be in PL8.)

I don't think the tool changed in PL8, and I'd be surprised if it changes in PL9. The functionality is already excellent.

If the repair functionality is excellent, then it must be when in your hands and not mine (and others.) Therefore, I assume that I am not using this tool correctly. Aside from keeping the edges somewhat fuzzy, what else do you recommend?

You need to properly understand the differences between clone and repair modes. Both have roles in a complex edit. Perhaps pick a difficult example and try different techniques to achieve it.

And experiment with the geometric manipulations the tool can do. For example, you can resize and rotate a cloned area, so you can pick targets that aren’t an exact fit.

One example I showed a while ago was how to magnify the subject in an image. It was a dog running towards the camera, which I moved and enlarged.

 

[TorsteinH]

As I’m sure you know, but sometimes need a reminder, what you see on the edit screen doesn’t reflect all your edits. So, often the image is going to look much better on export than it does on screen. The loupe tool is worth using, and it’s nice that it stays active as you do edits.

An excellent piece of advice. I have seen YouTube channels where the guy always uses the fit to screen image to assess the image and unfortunately, with PhotoLab this is not a good idea. You need to use software correctly and each piece of software has its own quirks.

Loope Tool was a much needed addition to PL.

Ian

If you want to really see you can always export a 16. Bit tiff with only perspective and deep xd applied to th RAW.

That was doesn’t help you see the effects of the edits.

It helps a lot! So, what edits? The idea is to use only Deep Prime and eventually perspective corrections. The rest you can do on the Tiff file.

No, the advice was on how to see the effects of your edits, not to do no edits.

What edits?

 

[Digital Nigel]

As I’m sure you know, but sometimes need a reminder, what you see on the edit screen doesn’t reflect all your edits. So, often the image is going to look much better on export than it does on screen. The loupe tool is worth using, and it’s nice that it stays active as you do edits.

An excellent piece of advice. I have seen YouTube channels where the guy always uses the fit to screen image to assess the image and unfortunately, with PhotoLab this is not a good idea. You need to use software correctly and each piece of software has its own quirks.

Loope Tool was a much needed addition to PL.

Ian

If you want to really see you can always export a 16. Bit tiff with only perspective and deep xd applied to th RAW.

That was doesn’t help you see the effects of the edits.

It helps a lot! So, what edits? The idea is to use only Deep Prime and eventually perspective corrections. The rest you can do on the Tiff file.

No, the advice was on how to see the effects of your edits, not to do no edits.

What edits?

Why does that matter? It’s a rich, sophisticated image editor, and users want to see the detailed results of their edits on screen. In my case, that’s usually 100% of all the edits on the image, as there are very few edits that can’t be done in PL.

 

[TorsteinH]

As I’m sure you know, but sometimes need a reminder, what you see on the edit screen doesn’t reflect all your edits. So, often the image is going to look much better on export than it does on screen. The loupe tool is worth using, and it’s nice that it stays active as you do edits.

An excellent piece of advice. I have seen YouTube channels where the guy always uses the fit to screen image to assess the image and unfortunately, with PhotoLab this is not a good idea. You need to use software correctly and each piece of software has its own quirks.

Loope Tool was a much needed addition to PL.

Ian

If you want to really see you can always export a 16. Bit tiff with only perspective and deep xd applied to th RAW.

That was doesn’t help you see the effects of the edits.

It helps a lot! So, what edits? The idea is to use only Deep Prime and eventually perspective corrections. The rest you can do on the Tiff file.

No, the advice was on how to see the effects of your edits, not to do no edits.

What edits?

Why does that matter? It’s a rich, sophisticated image editor, and users want to see the detailed results of their edits on screen. In my case, that’s usually 100% of all the edits on the image, as there are very few edits that can’t be done in PL.

It's always nice to see the results in PL without zooming in. You still edit in PL, but make it a two step job.