CP 5000 External Flash

[w3]

Which one of the Nikon SB external flash units I can use for CP5000 that is the smallest or most compact and gives reasonable performance?

Which ones of the Nkon SB external flash units for CP5000 can use rechargable NiMH AA batteries or rechargable Li-Ion battery?

Which ones of those Nikon SB flash units for CP5000 are more universal and can be more likely used with other digicams with hot shoes?

Thanks for answers to the above 3 questions in advance.

W3

 

[KC63881]

Try getting SB80DX. It's small, compact, powerful, uses rechargable NiMH AA and supports auto modes which allow it to be used on other cameras with standard hotshoe.

Another flash would be the Metz 54MZ3. It's foot can be dedicated for other camera makes via the use of appropriate adaptors.

Which one of the Nikon SB external flash units I can use for CP5000
that is the smallest or most compact and gives reasonable
performance?

Which ones of the Nkon SB external flash units for CP5000 can use
rechargable NiMH AA batteries or rechargable Li-Ion battery?

Which ones of those Nikon SB flash units for CP5000 are more
universal and can be more likely used with other digicams with hot
shoes?

Thanks for answers to the above 3 questions in advance.

W3

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[RonA]

I have the SB-50DX which is great half the price of the SB-80DX. It does not have recharable batteries but they can be purchased ~$2.00 each and last a long time. Also a Sunpak 355AF (Nikon) uses rechargable that works good too.
RonA
CP995, TC-E2, WC-24, WC-63, B-300
CP5000,
Epson 785EPX, Epson 2200
Meade ETX-90RA

 

[w3]

Thanks for the response.

Try getting SB80DX. It's small, compact, powerful, uses
rechargable NiMH AA and supports auto modes which allow it to be
used on other cameras with standard hotshoe.

SB80DX is not too big. However, I don't think it is the most compact or the smallest. SB-30 is at least quite a bit smaller, right? Is SB-30 the smallest?

But you are right. SB80 uses AA batteries. Any other Nikon SB models can use AA NiMH?

Another flash would be the Metz 54MZ3. It's foot can be dedicated
for other camera makes via the use of appropriate adaptors.

What does Metz 54MZ3 use as power source? Or is it very small?

I am not looking for one external Flash unit that does all - but 2 or 3. One smallest, or one uses AA NiMH, or one that is more universal.

Which one of the Nikon SB external flash units I can use for CP5000
that is the smallest or most compact and gives reasonable
performance?

Which ones of the Nkon SB external flash units for CP5000 can use
rechargable NiMH AA batteries or rechargable Li-Ion battery?

Which ones of those Nikon SB flash units for CP5000 are more
universal and can be more likely used with other digicams with hot
shoes?

Thanks for answers to the above 3 questions in advance.

W3

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[Ken.]

I have the SB-50DX which is great half the price of the SB-80DX. It
does not have recharable batteries but they can be purchased ~$2.00
each and last a long time.

Where are you getting batteries at $2.00 each? When I buy them locally at supermarkets they go from $12 to $15 a pair. At this rate the flash is becoming very expensive! They only bargins I have seen online are for no names and are not even close to $2.00.

Ken.

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[Robert Trudel]

Try getting SB80DX. It's small, compact, powerful, uses
rechargable NiMH AA and supports auto modes which allow it to be
used on other cameras with standard hotshoe.

SB80DX is not too big. However, I don't think it is the most
compact or the smallest. SB-30 is at least quite a bit smaller,
right? Is SB-30 the smallest?

But you are right. SB80 uses AA batteries. Any other Nikon SB
models can use AA NiMH?

Another flash would be the Metz 54MZ3. It's foot can be dedicated
for other camera makes via the use of appropriate adaptors.

What does Metz 54MZ3 use as power source? Or is it very small?

I am not looking for one external Flash unit that does all - but 2
or 3. One smallest, or one uses AA NiMH, or one that is more
universal.

Which one of the Nikon SB external flash units I can use for CP5000
that is the smallest or most compact and gives reasonable
performance?

Which ones of the Nkon SB external flash units for CP5000 can use
rechargable NiMH AA batteries or rechargable Li-Ion battery?

Which ones of those Nikon SB flash units for CP5000 are more
universal and can be more likely used with other digicams with hot
shoes?

Thanks for answers to the above 3 questions in advance.

W3

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--SB-30 is the smallest but it uses 3v lithium non-rechargables,so does
the SB-50. SB-80 is the most versatile of those that use AA batteries
but it's also the largest and most expensive, the SB-23 is the smallest
but it's rather limited in what it does (no swivell, no tilt).SB-22 is
similar in size and features to the SB-50 but it uses AA so it might
be a good option.

Robert T.

 

[RonA]

http://www.sunnbattery.com/category.html?UCIDs=824406

RonA
CP995, TC-E2, WC-24, WC-63, B-300
CP5000,
Epson 785EPX, Epson 2200
Meade ETX-90RA

 

[KC63881]

Try getting SB80DX. It's small, compact, powerful, uses
rechargable NiMH AA and supports auto modes which allow it to be
used on other cameras with standard hotshoe.

SB80DX is not too big. However, I don't think it is the most
compact or the smallest. SB-30 is at least quite a bit smaller,
right? Is SB-30 the smallest?

SB30 is the smallest Nikon flash now. SB80DX is small and compact compared to other flash that has the same level of output (e.g. Canon 550EX) or even other flash which is less powerful (e.g. Vivitar 285HV).

But you are right. SB80 uses AA batteries. Any other Nikon SB
models can use AA NiMH?

I preseum you're talking about ones still in production. SB27 is the other flash that uses AA NiMH.

Another flash would be the Metz 54MZ3. It's foot can be dedicated
for other camera makes via the use of appropriate adaptors.

What does Metz 54MZ3 use as power source? Or is it very small?

It's using AA batteries. It's big though.

I am not looking for one external Flash unit that does all - but 2
or 3. One smallest, or one uses AA NiMH, or one that is more
universal.

Yup, there's seldom a flash that could cater to all needs. I would like my SB80DX to be smaller but retain the same functions.

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[w3]

I have the SB-50DX which is great half the price of the SB-80DX. It
does not have recharable batteries but they can be purchased ~$2.00
each and last a long time. Also a Sunpak 355AF (Nikon) uses
rechargable that works good too.

Ron, thanks for the response.

About Sunpak 355AF, it seems to have versions (different shoe mounts?) for Canon, Nikon, Minolta, Pentax, ....

How does it work?

Can you get one Flash unit say for Nikon (CP5000) at about $70, then get an additional but different shoe mount (at say $10 to $20?) say for Canon and the Flash unit can also be used for Canon G2 or G3?

Sunpak 355AF seems to have 3-position manual zoom (35/50/85mm), how would the 35mm zoom do for CP5000 at 28mm?

Thanks for answers in advance.

 

[w3]

Thanks for all the inputs.

To sum it up and add a little bit of my research:

1. Smallest:

SB-30: Uses CR123A non-rechargeable Lithium batteries
2.3" x 3.3" x 1.4" 3.2 oz
GN: 52' at ISO 100 with 28mm
About $90

SB-50DX: Uses CR123 non-rechargeable Lithium batteries
Quite a bit bigger but small among the more powerful
2.5" x 4.2" x 4.1" 8.3 oz
GN: 72 in feet at ISO 100
About $160

SB-23: Not the smallest, but probably the smallest that uses 4xAA's
Designed in 1988
2.5" x 2.6" x 3.3" 4.9 oz
GN: 66' (ISO 100)
35mm coverage
About $90

2. Use AA's:

SB-23 see above (the smallest among AA Flashes)

SB-80DX - the latest and most powerful, a little bit too big for me.
Over $300

Other:

SB-27: Designed in 1995
4 x AA's
2.8" x 4.2" x 3.8" 12 oz
GN: 98'
24mm Coverage
About $180

SB-22S: Designed in 1998
4 x AA's
4.1" X 2.7" x 3.1" 7.4 oz
GN: 92'
28mm coverage
About $140

3. Other Flash units - Universal application?

Sunpak 355AF: Uses 4xAA's, it seems to have versions (different shoe mounts?) for Canon, Nikon, Minolta, Pentax, .... How does it work? Can you get one Flash unit say for Nikon (CP5000) at about $70, then get an additional but different shoe mount (at say $10 to $20?) say for Canon and the Flash unit can also be used for Canon G2 or G3? Or those were just for film cameras. For digicams, any one version would fit the other digicam? Sunpak 355AF seems to have 3-position manual zoom (35/50/85mm), how would the 35mm zoom do for CP5000 at 28mm?

Canon 220 Ex: - use AA's
2-9/16in. (W) x 3-5/8in. (H) x 2-7/16in (D) 5.6 oz
GN: 72' (ISO 100)
28/24mm coverage
About $140

I am thinking about getting 220Ex for Canon G2/Pro90. Can it also be used with CP5000 with limited functions?

Or can any of the Nikon SB flash use for Canon G2/Pro90? Which is the better way to go?

Right now, I am considering SB-30, SB-23 or SB-22S (more compact and the latter two can use AA's) for the Nikon. Will also consider the Sunpak 355AF when I learn more about it.

Thanks in advance for more comments to help me decide.

 

[w3]

Thanks for all the inputs.

To sum it up and add a little bit of my research:

1. Smallest:

SB-30: Uses CR123A non-rechargeable Lithium batteries
2.3" x 3.3" x 1.4" 3.2 oz
GN: 52' at ISO 100 with 28mm
About $90

SB-50DX: Uses CR123 non-rechargeable Lithium batteries
Quite a bit bigger but small among the more powerful
2.5" x 4.2" x 4.1" 8.3 oz
GN: 72 in feet at ISO 100
About $160

SB-23: Not the smallest, but probably the smallest that uses 4xAA's
Designed in 1988
2.5" x 2.6" x 3.3" 4.9 oz
GN: 66' (ISO 100)
35mm coverage
About $90

2. Use AA's:

SB-23 see above (the smallest among AA Flashes)

SB-80DX - the latest and most powerful, a little bit too big for me.
Over $300

Other:

SB-27: Designed in 1995
4 x AA's
2.8" x 4.2" x 3.8" 12 oz
GN: 98'
24mm Coverage
About $180

SB-22S: Designed in 1998
4 x AA's
4.1" X 2.7" x 3.1" 7.4 oz
GN: 92'
28mm coverage
About $140

3. Other Flash units - Universal application?

Sunpak 355AF: Uses 4xAA's, it seems to have versions (different
shoe mounts?) for Canon, Nikon, Minolta, Pentax, .... How does it
work? Can you get one Flash unit say for Nikon (CP5000) at about
$70, then get an additional but different shoe mount (at say $10 to
$20?) say for Canon and the Flash unit can also be used for Canon
G2 or G3? Or those were just for film cameras. For digicams, any
one version would fit the other digicam? Sunpak 355AF seems to have
3-position manual zoom (35/50/85mm), how would the 35mm zoom do for
CP5000 at 28mm?

Canon 220 Ex: - use AA's
2-9/16in. (W) x 3-5/8in. (H) x 2-7/16in (D) 5.6 oz
GN: 72' (ISO 100)
28/24mm coverage
About $140

I am thinking about getting 220Ex for Canon G2/Pro90. Can it also
be used with CP5000 with limited functions?

Or can any of the Nikon SB flash use for Canon G2/Pro90? Which is
the better way to go?

Right now, I am considering SB-30, SB-23 or SB-22S (more compact
and the latter two can use AA's) for the Nikon. Will also consider
the Sunpak 355AF when I learn more about it.

Thanks in advance for more comments to help me decide.

Please advise how well SB-23 (slightly bigger but still very compact, uses AA's which I like) will do for CP5000 when compared with SB-30 (smallest but uses CR123A lithium non-rechargeables).

Please also advise between SB-22S (AA's) and SB-50DX (CR123A non-rechargeable lithium).

Thanks.

 

[Ralph Encarnacion]

Thanks for all the inputs.

To sum it up and add a little bit of my research:

1. Smallest:

SB-30: Uses CR123A non-rechargeable Lithium batteries
2.3" x 3.3" x 1.4" 3.2 oz
GN: 52' at ISO 100 with 28mm
About $90

SB-50DX: Uses CR123 non-rechargeable Lithium batteries
Quite a bit bigger but small among the more powerful
2.5" x 4.2" x 4.1" 8.3 oz
GN: 72 in feet at ISO 100
About $160

SB-23: Not the smallest, but probably the smallest that uses 4xAA's
Designed in 1988
2.5" x 2.6" x 3.3" 4.9 oz
GN: 66' (ISO 100)
35mm coverage
About $90

2. Use AA's:

SB-23 see above (the smallest among AA Flashes)

SB-80DX - the latest and most powerful, a little bit too big for me.
Over $300

Other:

SB-27: Designed in 1995
4 x AA's
2.8" x 4.2" x 3.8" 12 oz
GN: 98'
24mm Coverage
About $180

SB-22S: Designed in 1998
4 x AA's
4.1" X 2.7" x 3.1" 7.4 oz
GN: 92'
28mm coverage
About $140

3. Other Flash units - Universal application?

Sunpak 355AF: Uses 4xAA's, it seems to have versions (different
shoe mounts?) for Canon, Nikon, Minolta, Pentax, .... How does it
work? Can you get one Flash unit say for Nikon (CP5000) at about
$70, then get an additional but different shoe mount (at say $10 to
$20?) say for Canon and the Flash unit can also be used for Canon
G2 or G3? Or those were just for film cameras. For digicams, any
one version would fit the other digicam? Sunpak 355AF seems to have
3-position manual zoom (35/50/85mm), how would the 35mm zoom do for
CP5000 at 28mm?

Canon 220 Ex: - use AA's
2-9/16in. (W) x 3-5/8in. (H) x 2-7/16in (D) 5.6 oz
GN: 72' (ISO 100)
28/24mm coverage
About $140

I am thinking about getting 220Ex for Canon G2/Pro90. Can it also
be used with CP5000 with limited functions?

Or can any of the Nikon SB flash use for Canon G2/Pro90? Which is
the better way to go?

Right now, I am considering SB-30, SB-23 or SB-22S (more compact
and the latter two can use AA's) for the Nikon. Will also consider
the Sunpak 355AF when I learn more about it.

Thanks in advance for more comments to help me decide.

Please advise how well SB-23 (slightly bigger but still very
compact, uses AA's which I like) will do for CP5000 when compared
with SB-30 (smallest but uses CR123A lithium non-rechargeables).

I am not familiar with the SB-30 so I can't comment. The SB-23 is short but long and I don't think it swivels for bounce flash.

Please also advise between SB-22S (AA's) and SB-50DX (CR123A
non-rechargeable lithium).

I don't like buying batteries so I would never consider buying a flash that I have to keep buying batteries for. So that would rule out the SB-50. I use the SB-22S. It uses rechargeable AA's which I have a ton of and it swivels for bounce flash.
Ralph

Thanks.

 

[Ken.]

I don't like buying batteries so I would never consider buying a
flash that I have to keep buying batteries for. So that would rule
out the SB-50.

I have to agree! The SB-50 flash charges instantly and seems to last a while, but the batteries are very expensive and will probably end up costing me more than the flash in the long run. Ron posted a link to batteries that were very cheap. I'll have to try those. So far I have been paying $11.00 to the worst $15.00 at a local drug store in a bind for a pair!

Ken.

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[Ken.]

Please advise how well SB-23 (slightly bigger but still very
compact, uses AA's which I like) will do for CP5000 when compared
with SB-30 (smallest but uses CR123A lithium non-rechargeables).

Does the SB 30 swivel or tilt? If the answer is no than don't buy it!

--
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[RonA]

I also have the Sunpak 355AF Nikon version that came with the used 5k I bought. Finally used it and seems very good at the price and uses the rechargeable batteries. It does tilt. Looks like a good buy.
RonA
CP995, TC-E2, WC-24, WC-63, B-300
CP5000,
Epson 785EPX, Epson 2200
Meade ETX-90RA

 

[w3]

I also have the Sunpak 355AF Nikon version that came with the used
5k I bought. Finally used it and seems very good at the price and
uses the rechargeable batteries. It does tilt. Looks like a good
buy.

Thanks for the input.

When used with CP5000, how will Sunpak 355AF do at 28mm? Will it have variable output?

And what is the Sunpak 355AF NIKON VERSION?

I know they also have a Canon VERSION. They seem to mean different mounts. Are the different versions only needed for film cameras? Can a Sunpak 355AF be used with both Nikon and Canon digicams?

Thanks in advance.

 

[RonA]

http://www.etronics.com/product.asp?stk_code=sun355afnik

can't answer all your questions now will try later.

RonA
CP995, TC-E2, WC-24, WC-63, B-300
CP5000,
Epson 785EPX, Epson 2200
Meade ETX-90RA

 

[archangel]

Is 35mm wide enough for the 19mm 5000 if I'll be using bounce flash?

The infrared autofocus assistance beam effectively doesn't exist when attached to the 5000, right?

Is there a better choice considering that money is tight and I want a flash that uses AAs? Unless there is a non-AA flash that just makes much more sense when paired with the 19mm 5000.

 

[OpulenteOne]

Is 35mm wide enough for the 19mm 5000 if I'll be using bounce flash?

The infrared autofocus assistance beam effectively doesn't exist
when attached to the 5000, right?

Is there a better choice considering that money is tight and I want
a flash that uses AAs? Unless there is a non-AA flash that just
makes much more sense when paired with the 19mm 5000.