Clip In Filters for L Mount Are Here... sort of...

[Off The Mark]

Kolari is known for making high quality in-body filters, such as AA filters for Lumix cameras (even for the S1H). Unfortunately they cost like $700 and you have to send youir camera in to them and have it permanently installed.

But the great news is that they now offer filters you can buy and "clip in" over the sensor, as the filters have a mangetic frame.

Oh... and they are available for the L Mount camera of your choice!!!

As long as you choose the Blackmagic Design 6K Full Frame or the BlackMagic Design Pyxis (no, I am NOT making that name up, stop asking!!!)

I am guessing that most people don't even know that Blackmagic Design AND DJI make L Mount cameras, but theys doos.

Still, I think that this shows promise for people shooting other L Mount cameras, as Dan Hopkins (who I believe is a Lumix ambassador), mentioned that Kolari is at least thinking about developing clip-in AA filters for Lumix bodies.

 

[Nicholas Smith]

Kase already sells a clip-in filter for l-mount:

Amazon.com : Kase Clip-in MCUV UV Filter Compatible with Panasonic Lumix S5 S5II Cameras : Electronics

Amazon.com : Kase Clip-in MCUV UV Filter Compatible with Panasonic Lumix S5 S5II Cameras : Electronics

www.amazon.com

so far only UV filter though. There are ND filters available for other mounts

 

[Off The Mark]

Kase already sells a clip-in filter for l-mount:

https://www.amazon.com/Kase-Filter-Compatible-Panasonic-Cameras/dp/B0CSC59PY5
so far only UV filter though. There are ND filters available for other mounts

Good to know.

If they are able to make an AA filter, that would be great. I know it would be a big challenge though. My understanding is the alignment has to be precise.

 

[georgehudetz]

This just popped into my YT feed. It has a quick summary of moire performance with the S1RII, and a claim that the author is working with Kolari to make a clip-in OLPF for the S1RII.

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[Rags_and_Old_Iron]

when the mc-21 was released by Sigma, Aurora Aperture produced drop in filters and I bought the whole set. I have been using drop in filters with my L for four years now and it has been great for the Sigma ART lenses and especially my old 11-24L.

Kolari makes great filters, the cost was very high for me to build a set of circular filters for my gull spectrum GH6 and two filter sizes, and it would have been great to have drop in filters for that body.

 

[Off The Mark]

when the mc-21 was released by Sigma, Aurora Aperture produced drop in filters and I bought the whole set. I have been using drop in filters with my L for four years now and it has been great for the Sigma ART lenses and especially my old 11-24L.

Kolari makes great filters, the cost was very high for me to build a set of circular filters for my gull spectrum GH6 and two filter sizes, and it would have been great to have drop in filters for that body.

Thanks for the reminder about the Aurora Aperture drop-in filters. I hadn't thought about them in a long time.

Yeah, I hear you on the cost of Kalri filters being high.

 

[georgehudetz]

when the mc-21 was released by Sigma, Aurora Aperture produced drop in filters and I bought the whole set. I have been using drop in filters with my L for four years now and it has been great for the Sigma ART lenses and especially my old 11-24L.

Kolari makes great filters, the cost was very high for me to build a set of circular filters for my gull spectrum GH6 and two filter sizes, and it would have been great to have drop in filters for that body.

Yes, I use Aurora Aperture filters in an mc-21 as well. It's good to hear you are using them with the 11-24 L. What do you think of that lens? I've been considering acquiring one. There seems to be quite a few available on the used market right now, probably due to Canon's new 10-20.

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[Rags_and_Old_Iron]

Yes, I use Aurora Aperture filters in an mc-21 as well. It's good to hear you are using them with the 11-24 L. What do you think of that lens? I've been considering acquiring one. There seems to be quite a few available on the used market right now, probably due to Canon's new 10-20.

I have had the 11-24/4 since before the announcement of the S1/S1R, and I prefer it with the MC-21 as it favours adapting especially with the Smallrig L-plate that bolts to the MC-21 - I mention this because the 11-24/4 is forward heavy. For photography I find that I use the lens mostly either @ 11mm or @ 21mm, and try to use f/6.3, but the profiles come up automatically in metadata for RAW if wanted as the vignetting is pretty strong open.

I still use a 1V for film, and a 1DX for sports, so there is nothing else that works so well for both mirrorless and reflex bodies than the 11-24, and I have custom 0.8 gears on the zoom and focus which work well with a follow-focus whip, but less so with weaker motors like the Nucleus Nano. Of course it is a terrible lens if there is wind and water to blow on the front element, but it is sealed and cleans up well, and I also have the WonderPana adapter with 186mm filters - and the Aurora System is SO MUCH BETTER! I am not sure what your use will be, but I am adding an uncropped S1 photo with stars, buildings, and mountain horizon and you can pixel-peep what happens when you apply ACR denoise (30), auto lens profile enabled, Adobe Landscape, sharpening 30 at .8, contrast 10:

Lumix S1/ISO6400/21mm/f6.3

 

[georgehudetz]

Thanks for the post. Great image! Sounds like you get a lot of use out of that lens.

For me, it will be on an S1RII, mostly for landscape photography for situations where I want that ultra-ultrawide focal length. Think SW slot canyons, etc. Or, big-sky shots, as per above. It's too heavy to carry around in a backpack for longer hikes, but I have other options for that.

Basically, I'm looking for a very high fidelity lens in the 10 to 12mm range. Venus has a new 10mm F2.8 that I might look at. Unsure if the IQ will be where I want it, but it's only 400 grams or so, and thus could be carried in combination with the 16-35 S-Pro, and still be quite a bit lighter than the 11-24. It's wide enough that if I have to crop the corners out to get rid of the worst offenders, but still have 11mm of material, I'd probably be OK with that.

Again, thanks for the post!

 

[Rags_and_Old_Iron]

Basically, I'm looking for a very high fidelity lens in the 10 to 12mm range. Venus has a new 10mm F2.8 that I might look at. Unsure if the IQ will be where I want it, but it's only 400 grams or so, and thus could be carried in combination with the 16-35 S-Pro.

Drop in filters are definitely the way to go if you don't change cameras much.

I use the 16-35 S PRO and stitch with the S1R, it is an unreal lens for the money and extremely well suited to stitching hand-held. The 11-24L is more flexible, but I think it is better to stay 77mm circular and 16-35 with the higher resolution sensor.

Either adapted or third party L, you lose EFC and focus options same as 11-24L, but since you have the Aurora Aperture drop-in filters you have good long exposure/aperture options if you do adapt; I have to use gel filters for the 11mm TT Artisans, and it stinks even compared to the Aurora Aperture process, and it is not as good as stitching with the 16-35 S PRO with a non-variable ND (I also have the dedicated 11-24L filters from them in addition to drop-in MC-21 and would definitely choose a drop-in based system if I started again).

Drop-in will never do polarized so consider that too for your S1R II and how wide the lens can handle polarized/HHR. Even for me, having a single shot with a polarized 16-35 handheld on the S1R with similar distances and features of the already posted 11-24L image, and the cellphone tower on top of the featured hill would just not look that good with either the 11-24L or TT 11mm. Cropped down from 65:24 and reduced file size to post here S1R 16-35 handheld @f8 ISO 640 19mm and processed using all the bells and whistles from Adobe.

S1R/1635SPRO/ISO640/f8/19mm

 

[georgehudetz]

Thanks, and nice image.

I also have the Sigma 14-24/2.8 DG DN Art (L-mount) which I initially bought for astro. It's an even better lens than the 16-35, but, you have to use the drop-in filters, of which I have from Haida. They are OK, but not as good as the AA or a good set of front filters. The 16-35 certainly is a lot more convenient with it's 77mm filters, as you say, and yes, you can use a polarizer up to a point. But the 14-24 is spectacular if I don't want to use filters.

I wish Panasonic would make a 12-24 F2.8 S-Pro. Heck, I wish they would make ANY new S-Pro lens.

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