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Simply use a spreadsheet and keep your own running average - not really that difficult. I too was a bit disappointed. I was trying to get mine over 60%. Now, if anyone ask, I'll just tell them mine is 98.3% ;-)
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I'm also for bringing the scores back!

Would be even better if DPR makes the scores private. Unchangeable private if they want. Or just like the mail accounts, selectable private or public.

(should I mention how good a real stats would be where I could see if I improved over the time, e.g. a moving-average)
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It's like your car is making funny noises so you turn up the volume on the radio.
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yes, it is nothing else now.
 
Even with the average placement stats, I was still keeping a spreadsheet. I record the challenge name, entry, date entered, what my placement was/how many entries there were total. Then my actual score from that challenge.

At first I was a bit disappointed to see them gone, but thinking it over it does remove some of the focus with improving stats so that the focus can be more on just improving as a photographer. With the way the challenges are set up, the stats were just a vague benchmark, as others have said once you've entered a lot of challenges it's harder to get that number up. That can get discouraging (I seem to remember reading a post by someone who was going to quit entering challenges now that he had reached the number where it's almost impossible to get the average up). And how much is it really telling you about your improvement (or lack of)?

I am not a statistic, I am unique. :) It only takes a few seconds to fill in the info on a challenge that's finished. Then I can see which of my photos did well and which did not. I see my progress, early photos having achieved lower scores and see those scores rising as my skill improves. I can see details like how many 4's and 5's did a particular photo get. I can even chart my improvement over a certain time period. I see that I am steadily improving as the months go by. To me that's a much better way to keep track of my progress.

It could be back though. Things have sometimes disappeared from the profile page only to return shortly.

Lee

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Perhaps you could share your spreadsheet template to those interested by email?
Assuming it is Excel?
LeeStar said:
I am not a statistic, I am unique. It only takes a few seconds to fill in the info on a challenge that's finished. Then I can see which of my photos did well and which did not. I see my progress, early photos having achieved lower scores and see those scores rising as my skill improves. I can see details like how many 4's and 5's did a particular photo get. I can even chart my improvement over a certain time period. I see that I am steadily improving as the months go by. To me that's a much better way to keep track of my progress
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I'd be happy to stick to my 61% and try to up it under my own steam, with or without the cheats. A challenge demands competitiveness, competitiveness can breed brilliance. We are competitive by nature and it's fun competing in the challenges. I want to see my ups and downs reflected in my percentages. DPR , please give us back our statistics.
 
+One of the best things on the site and they just take it away?
 
LeeStar said:
At first I was a bit disappointed to see them gone, but thinking it over it does remove some of the focus with improving stats so that the focus can be more on just improving as a photographer. With the way the challenges are set up, the stats were just a vague benchmark, as others have said once you've entered a lot of challenges it's harder to get that number up. That can get discouraging (I seem to remember reading a post by someone who was going to quit entering challenges now that he had reached the number where it's almost impossible to get the average up). And how much is it really telling you about your improvement (or lack of)?
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Fully agree, focus should shift to actual photography in individual challenges.

It is excellent that the overall placement numbers no longer show in profiles.

Hope they keep it this way.
LeeStar said:
It could be back though. Things have sometimes disappeared from the profile page only to return shortly.

Lee
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Maybe DPR could give us the choice . . the people who need therapy can turn it off and the rest of us can leave it turned on . . then we can all be happy.
idnab said:
It is excellent that the overall placement numbers no longer show in profiles.

Hope they keep it this way.
idnab said:
It could be back though. Things have sometimes disappeared from the profile page only to return shortly.

Lee
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Don't tell people who need therapy to turn it off!
RaptorUK said:
Maybe DPR could give us the choice . . the people who need therapy can turn it off and the rest of us can leave it turned on . . then we can all be happy.
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Those who view the "challenges" more as "competitions", with the aim of attracting (and showing) highest attention and approval, get rewarded by the satisfaction of inflated ego.

What is more important - enjoying photography or striving for one's inflation of self worth - it is up to each in these challenges.
RaptorUK said:
Maybe DPR could give us the choice . . the people who need therapy can turn it off and the rest of us can leave it turned on . . then we can all be happy.
idnab said:
It is excellent that the overall placement numbers no longer show in profiles.

Hope they keep it this way.
RaptorUK said:
It could be back though. Things have sometimes disappeared from the profile page only to return shortly.

Lee
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RaptorUK said:
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Yeah, I'm more inclined to think those that focus on winning ...what exactly?...are the ones who might benefit from therapy.
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Even better for the cheaters now! If you withdrawn your poor placements so that they don't show up on your "Challenges" profile tab - and now, with the latest profile change, your winning % doesn't show an honest representation of your overall entries - there isn't any stat available showing a member's true winning percentage.

It kind of feels like we're going the wrong way with providing members and/or hosts with sufficient data to monitor the entries being submitted to the challenges.

It's all really very bizarre that anyone would put so much effort into cheating for a competition/challenge worth virtually nothing. Who cares? Few of these winners actually give their real name (on any of their multiple accounts). Who outside of the other members ever sees the challenges and who ranked 1st in them?

I guess it's really just the same old story - Nice (or honest) guys finish last.

:-(
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Me too. I'll feel a lot better when I see my 61% again, and the way things are going here, I'll need all the ego inflating I can get.
 
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