Can we have an MFT DF?

[Louis_Dobson]

While i do understand your point, I find having to remember what the control wheels are doing at any different time distracting. I'd rather shift my grip for a moment and move a dedicated dial than have to press a button and assign ISO to w wheel that also does something else.

I've never like shutter speed on the top plate (it's one reason I preferred Olympus SLRs) but I don't generally use it much (another reason why i want it on a separate control).

Or to put it in other words, each system has disadvantages, but for me the having to think how to get a function (ISO, shutter speed, whatever) gets in my way much more than shifting my grip to get to a separate control.

I'm well versed with both. I've shot for money (although not full time) in the 80s and the noughties.
I find the old layout much faster. I don't like to control a camera with just two wheels (and only one wheel makes it horrible). I dislike multi mode controls, they are distracting.

Sorry for the multi-nest quotes, but I don't want to make too many posts. I hope this is readable.

Anyway, this is like I said, a matter of getting used to. The new way is faster. There is a lot less hand/arm movement with the right control layout. You just press and turn a dial. With the old controls there's a lot of movement from shooting position (left hand on lens, right hand on shutter release) to controls and back. I'm shooting for money now and for me doing things the old way will throw me into a fit.

Same with the ISO control dial on the left top deck. Most enthusiast and pro photographers use their left hand to cradle the lens, not hold the body. So adjusting ISO with the old-style control would involve holding the camera with the right hand hand in order to adjust ISO. Not exactly a quick and easy thing to do if you're using a long lens.

And this is where the GH3 is an improvement for me over the Nikon. Nikons in general require you to use the left hand to change ISO, at least for the pro bodies. It's on the top-deck on the left where the faux film-winder knob is, or it's below the LCD via a flip door for single digit Ds. I loved my Nikons, but that was the one thing I wish they changed.

 

[Abrak]

I think the Nikon DF controls are quite nice and it is easy to see how they appeal to the older generation.

2 controls that I do like on the camera.

1) A very small mode dial. I hardly touch the mode dial on the E-M1 - I dont see why it has to be so large.

2) I would like an 'iso' dial on the top of the E-M1.

So ideally I would like a small mode dial with an iso dial beneath it.

Two controls I dont particularly like.

1) An EV compensation dial. This aint bad it is just I prefer the wheel on the shutter button of the E-M1. I ride that dial pretty hard.

2) A shutter speed dial - more trouble than its worth for me.

 

[tjuster1]

The E-M5 has a better layout, just needs the squidgy buttons replacing.

I must be the only one who doesn't find the "squidgy" buttons a bother. Sure, they could be better, but it's not like they have a big impact on my camera experience. I'm much more annoyed by the too-large focus box, for example.

The way people complain you'd think the camera was unusable due to its "squishy" "squidgy" buttons.

 

[Cane]

A camera with no stupid video rubbish clagged on top, and proper aperture, shutter speed and exp comp controls! Well done Nikon with the DF, despite the stupid price.

It's FF unfortunately, and I've been there, done that, not doing it again.

So, Oly, when can we have an MFT version?

I'd love an E-M1 with proper controls!

 

[Godfrey]

A camera with no stupid video rubbish clagged on top, and proper aperture, shutter speed and exp comp controls! Well done Nikon with the DF, despite the stupid price.
It's FF unfortunately, and I've been there, done that, not doing it again.
So, Oly, when can we have an MFT version?
I'd love an E-M1 with proper controls!

The E-M1 controls are better than an archaic "aperture ring on the lens, shutter knob on the top" setup. It's also very easy to forget the video options exist on the E-M1. If you don't feel that way, if you don't like the way it works, why did you buy the darn thing? Buy something you like: you'll be happier.