Can Computers Create Art?

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David posted a thread at PixLS with this video and it's worth watching, imo. Is AI renderings art is the question. This assessment (video) is well worth watching, imo.

Can click on David's thread here . :)
 
I asked CoPilot in CGPT5 mode to "create impressionist style art of a Yorkshire Dales sunset and it produced the art shown below. This perhaps lacks imagination but much better than I could ever do.



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IMHO, AI is quite capable in plagiarism and compilation. It can easy compile piece #11 from known pieces #1 - #10. After that it will create piece #12 based on known eleven pieces, and so on
 
Regardless of what the video says in my opinion ART has to be a 100% human creation while using tools to create the persons vision. It also should be something not created previously. If you think that when a person manipulates AI to create their vision it is art then it's not AI. AI has to be completely independent of human interaction. AI as it stands today is not true AI because it's not capable of independent thought but only emulates what humans have created previously.

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I asked CoPilot in CGPT5 mode to "create impressionist style art of a Yorkshire Dales sunset and it produced the art shown below. This perhaps lacks imagination but much better than I could ever do.

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Doesn't look like it lacks imagination to me. If you hadn't told me I would have never know you used it to create this. Those tools are available in PS and others.

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I asked CoPilot in CGPT5 mode to "create impressionist style art of a Yorkshire Dales sunset and it produced the art shown below. This perhaps lacks imagination but much better than I could ever do.

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Doesn't look like it lacks imagination to me. If you hadn't told me I would have never know you used it to create this. Those tools are available in PS and others.
It's lacking imagination because it's simply emulating what has come before. I see no originality in that picture.

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Regardless of what the video says in my opinion ART has to be a 100% human creation while using tools to create the persons vision. It also should be something not created previously. If you think that when a person manipulates AI to create their vision it is art then it's not AI. AI has to be completely independent of human interaction. AI as it stands today is not true AI because it's not capable of independent thought but only emulates what humans have created previously.
Personally, I've always felt that "artificial intelligence" is a misnomer and that the term we should be using is "simulated intelligence".
 
I asked CoPilot in CGPT5 mode to "create impressionist style art of a Yorkshire Dales sunset and it produced the art shown below. This perhaps lacks imagination but much better than I could ever do.

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Doesn't look like it lacks imagination to me. If you hadn't told me I would have never know you used it to create this. Those tools are available in PS and others.
It's lacking imagination because it's simply emulating what has come before. I see no originality in that picture.
How would someone know what came before unless you told them? Besides that is subjective. I could say that for any artist who paints any picture or any photographer that takes a shot. I love Ansel Adams work. I've been in conversations with people who were not impressed at all.

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Regardless of what the video says in my opinion ART has to be a 100% human creation while using tools to create the persons vision. It also should be something not created previously. If you think that when a person manipulates AI to create their vision it is art then it's not AI. AI has to be completely independent of human interaction. AI as it stands today is not true AI because it's not capable of independent thought but only emulates what humans have created previously.
Personally, I've always felt that "artificial intelligence" is a misnomer and that the term we should be using is "simulated intelligence".
Yes there have been a few conversations about that. AI is just easier to add in conversion because it's the most common term apps/companies have used for years. Data which is the most coveted thing by corporations is just mushed into complex algorithms and continually trained.

Has anyone seen the movie I Robot? Remember the unexplained characteristics they talked about. When older models were put out of commission and left in the dark why did they huddle together? Of course that is a science fiction book/movie but the top five are now seeing unexpected behaviours from their AI.
 
I asked CoPilot in CGPT5 mode to "create impressionist style art of a Yorkshire Dales sunset and it produced the art shown below. This perhaps lacks imagination but much better than I could ever do.

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Loos awful. Would not call that art.

AI seems to lack taste.

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I asked CoPilot in CGPT5 mode to "create impressionist style art of a Yorkshire Dales sunset and it produced the art shown below. This perhaps lacks imagination but much better than I could ever do.

4180c8066b3242d288ca41a1fa5125b6.jpg.png
Loos awful. Would not call that art.

AI seems to lack taste.
What is your opinion of this?

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Funny how millions of people on an internet platform where they can communicate instantaneously with people on the other side of the world using incredibly powerful handheld computers linked to orbiting the satellites hundreds of miles in space don’t believe in science. Neil deGrasse Tyson
 
I asked CoPilot in CGPT5 mode to "create impressionist style art of a Yorkshire Dales sunset and it produced the art shown below. This perhaps lacks imagination but much better than I could ever do.

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I seriously think that my crop makes this landscape"more artistic"

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I asked CoPilot in CGPT5 mode to "create impressionist style art of a Yorkshire Dales sunset and it produced the art shown below. This perhaps lacks imagination but much better than I could ever do.

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I seriously think that my crop makes this landscape"more artistic"
I agree. You added your personal touch.

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Funny how millions of people on an internet platform where they can communicate instantaneously with people on the other side of the world using incredibly powerful handheld computers linked to orbiting the satellites hundreds of miles in space don’t believe in science. Neil deGrasse Tyson
 
Regardless of what the video says in my opinion ART has to be a 100% human creation while using tools to create the persons vision. It also should be something not created previously. If you think that when a person manipulates AI to create their vision it is art then it's not AI. AI has to be completely independent of human interaction. AI as it stands today is not true AI because it's not capable of independent thought but only emulates what humans have created previously.
Personally, I've always felt that "artificial intelligence" is a misnomer and that the term we should be using is "simulated intelligence".
True but the time may come when a computer is capable of independent intellectually superior thought at which point maybe we can start thinking of what it produces as art. What we have now is AS, artificial stupidity! :-)
 
I asked CoPilot in CGPT5 mode to "create impressionist style art of a Yorkshire Dales sunset and it produced the art shown below. This perhaps lacks imagination but much better than I could ever do.

4180c8066b3242d288ca41a1fa5125b6.jpg.png
Loos awful. Would not call that art.

AI seems to lack taste.
What is your opinion of this?

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That looks better. Reminds me of something by Nicholas Bott

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Kind regards
Kaj
WSSA member #13
It's about time we started to take photography seriously and treat it as a hobby.- Elliott Erwitt
 
I asked CoPilot in CGPT5 mode to "create impressionist style art of a Yorkshire Dales sunset and it produced the art shown below. This perhaps lacks imagination but much better than I could ever do.

4180c8066b3242d288ca41a1fa5125b6.jpg.png
Loos awful. Would not call that art.

AI seems to lack taste.
What is your opinion of this?

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That looks better. Reminds me of something by Nicholas Bott
Never heard of him. We had cottage in the Canadian Boreal forest and had a few of their prints on our walls. Not the one above.


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Funny how millions of people on an internet platform where they can communicate instantaneously with people on the other side of the world using incredibly powerful handheld computers linked to orbiting the satellites hundreds of miles in space don’t believe in science. Neil deGrasse Tyson
 
Is it question of can it? I think it's a little late for that question.

“AI God” by Ai-Da. An abstract portrayal of computing pioneer Alan Turing.
Sold for $1,084,800 at Sotheby's in 2024

Ai-Da created in 2019 is regarded as the world’s first humanoid robot artist.
  • Cameras in her eyes allow her to “see” subjects.
  • AI software analyzes visual input to interpret shapes, tones, and proportions.
  • A robotic arm then creates physical drawings and paintings.
  • It also produces sculpture, poetry, and performance art
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There are a few elephants who are continuously creating paintings that routinely sell in the 5 figure range.
 
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