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Just started playing around with the C700. I've seen lots of posts about the IS advantages of the C2100, so I was a bit leery when trying out max zoom. But I seem to have no problem at all with picture clarity at max zoom, even handheld with no tripod or other support. The picture "locks in" when the shutter is depressed, so any camera movement after that appears to have no effect. Am I missing something here?

Thanks!

...Steve
 
Steve, I went from using the c700 to the c-2100 because of IS I was indeed having problems with blurry pictures. But since going to c-2100 I hardly have any problems so maybe you have a steadier hand or the problem haven't popped up yet,have you taken photos in low light ?
Just started playing around with the C700. I've seen lots of posts
about the IS advantages of the C2100, so I was a bit leery when
trying out max zoom. But I seem to have no problem at all with
picture clarity at max zoom, even handheld with no tripod or other
support. The picture "locks in" when the shutter is depressed, so
any camera movement after that appears to have no effect. Am I
missing something here?

Thanks!

...Steve
--

Bill C
Weight 748 lb
c-2100
 
Just started playing around with the C700. I've seen lots of posts
about the IS advantages of the C2100, so I was a bit leery when
trying out max zoom. But I seem to have no problem at all with
picture clarity at max zoom, even handheld with no tripod or other
support. The picture "locks in" when the shutter is depressed, so
any camera movement after that appears to have no effect. Am I
missing something here?
I have steady hands or at least I think so (used to be in gymnastics in my teenage years), but sometimes steady hands is not enough. In low light conditions the exposure can go as far as 1/2 or more, as in this shot:

http://www.picturefuse.com/picdetail.php?picid=5219&PHPSESSID=9d9d0f37d3f308fc940468ceb24b26

If you don't specialize in night shots (like me), you probably don't take many pictures like this. Still it's nice to have IS.
-
Vadim
C-21OO

http://www.picturefuse.com/view.php?dir=VadimM
 
Hello,

IS is only usefull at lower shutter speed. For some people (more shaky hands) it is higher shutter speed than others. I can handheld my camera (c700) at up to 1/30s withouth much paying attention, and up to 1/10s if i concentrate to keep steady.

Older people with less steady hands may have a limit of 1/200s, but that's depending on each person. I personaly found that IS is not a requirement for me. I enjoy my c700 as it is and i would not trade IS for size.
Just started playing around with the C700. I've seen lots of posts
about the IS advantages of the C2100, so I was a bit leery when
trying out max zoom. But I seem to have no problem at all with
picture clarity at max zoom, even handheld with no tripod or other
support. The picture "locks in" when the shutter is depressed, so
any camera movement after that appears to have no effect. Am I
missing something here?

Thanks!

...Steve
--
Daniella
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
C700 FORUM: http://www.c700uz.com
 
Hello,

IS is only usefull at lower shutter speed. For some people (more
shaky hands) it is higher shutter speed than others. I can
handheld my camera (c700) at up to 1/30s withouth much paying
attention, and up to 1/10s if i concentrate to keep steady.

Older people with less steady hands may have a limit of 1/200s, but
that's depending on each person. I personaly found that IS is not
a requirement for me. I enjoy my c700 as it is and i would not
trade IS for size.
Just for clarification, Daniella, you DO mean 1/10th second at FULL zoom completely handheld with no bracing, right? If so, I envy your ability to do that. I cannot. The blood pulsing through my hands would be enough to cause a little motion blurring with those conditions.
 
IS is only usefull at lower shutter speed. For some people (more
shaky hands) it is higher shutter speed than others. I can
handheld my camera (c700) at up to 1/30s
Last night I took a few pics of fireworks and other stuff, handheld at exposures up to 1/2 sec, with no blur. Can't imagine I'm really that steady, seems like magic somehow...
 
Just started playing around with the C700. I've seen lots of posts
about the IS advantages of the C2100, so I was a bit leery when
trying out max zoom. But I seem to have no problem at all with
picture clarity at max zoom, even handheld with no tripod or other
support. The picture "locks in" when the shutter is depressed, so
any camera movement after that appears to have no effect. Am I
missing something here?

Thanks!

...Steve
Try taking a picture with a shutter time below 1/30sec with max zoom and you will find a tripod very usefull. But for normal use in daily conditions neither IS or tripod is nescesary. But do get a tripod, you will need it sooner or later for a nice low ligt shot or maybe some portraits.
--
Bjarne
C-700UZ
 
If you can hand hold that camera with the lens fully extended below 1/60 without shaking and get a perfect shot, you need to be on Ripleys, regardless of low bood pressure. If this is possible, I would like to see one of your pics showing scenery shot with the lens at 380mm.
Just for clarification, Daniella, you DO mean 1/10th second at FULL
zoom completely handheld with no bracing, right? If so, I envy your
ability to do that. I cannot. The blood pulsing through my hands
would be enough to cause a little motion blurring with those
conditions.
--
Daniella
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
C700 FORUM: http://www.c700uz.com
 
You need to be on Ripleys just for the record on stupidity! i honestly never saw one that beats you in that regard.

my gallery is full of shot taken at full zoom, take your pick. As for scenery...it may be stupid..but i rather use a wide angle for that type of photo, i think its far more appropriate. I keep the full zoom for stupid bird shots like these:

http://www.pbase.com/image/1220186/original

taken at 1/8s at full zoom. go ahead and fill up my application for Ripleys...
Just for clarification, Daniella, you DO mean 1/10th second at FULL
zoom completely handheld with no bracing, right? If so, I envy your
ability to do that. I cannot. The blood pulsing through my hands
would be enough to cause a little motion blurring with those
conditions.
--
Daniella
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
C700 FORUM: http://www.c700uz.com
--
Daniella
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
C700 FORUM: http://www.c700uz.com
 
It all depends on what shutter speed you are using and how stable your hands are. I can do it up to 1/30s without too much problem, but some older people will have problems at slower shutter speed then 1/200s.
Just started playing around with the C700. I've seen lots of posts
about the IS advantages of the C2100, so I was a bit leery when
trying out max zoom. But I seem to have no problem at all with
picture clarity at max zoom, even handheld with no tripod or other
support. The picture "locks in" when the shutter is depressed, so
any camera movement after that appears to have no effect. Am I
missing something here?

Thanks!

...Steve
--
Daniella
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
C700 FORUM: http://www.c700uz.com
 
I can also shoot at full zoom with my C-700 at 1/30sec. Many years with my A-1 and long lenses taught me this discipline. . Beautiful photographs have been taken with long lenses years before anybody even dreamed of digital photography.

IS is a faster way from here-to-there

IS is a useful tool that allows virtually anyone to capture a sharp image at long focal lengths.

There is always bickering when this subject comes up. A camera is a tool, nothing more. A Leica in the wrong hands makes mediocre snapshots, a simple box with a lens, in the hands of Ansel Adams, made images that will span the ages.

--
rich
c-700, d-510
'always remember you are unique, just like everyone else'
http://www.pbase.com/iceninevt
 
I have had my c700 for 3 weeks now and I have very steady hands.
But at low light shooting fast moving lava pix a tripod is a must!
This past wekend I took over 700 pix.

Many were bombs, because I forgot to change settings from one scene to the next. No time to mess around deleting, things happen too fast and safety was my main concern. Plus I was working 3 cameras :-)
Normal daylight shots are no problem.
I find the manual mode to be my favorite.

Bryan L

http://www.pbase.com/galleries/bryanl Pbase supporter
oly brio-150, C-700 - Uzi Love that zoom
 
I can also shoot at full zoom with my C-700 at 1/30sec. Many years
with my A-1 and long lenses taught me this discipline. . Beautiful
photographs have been taken with long lenses years before anybody
even dreamed of digital photography.

IS is a faster way from here-to-there

IS is a useful tool that allows virtually anyone to capture a sharp
image at long focal lengths.

There is always bickering when this subject comes up. A camera is a
tool, nothing more. A Leica in the wrong hands makes mediocre
snapshots, a simple box with a lens, in the hands of Ansel Adams,
made images that will span the ages.

--
rich
c-700, d-510
'always remember you are unique, just like everyone else'
http://www.pbase.com/iceninevt
Daniella's caustic response to Jerry Rosen was really uncalled for but this sort of thing seems to be overlooked where she's concerned. I'm glad she can take handheld shots with her C700 at full zoom at such slow shutter speeds. That's a very good ability to have. I could also probably take handheld, fully zoomed shots at 1/30th with a bit of concentration but I prefer to use a camera with a tool that insures the majority of my handheld shots at slow shutter speeds WILL be sharp without having to worry about it. I demand sharp photos and anything which helps me towards that end is a welcome addition. I think it's sad that people who can't handhold a camera at 380mm and get sharp shots at very slow shutter speeds are relegated to the aged, overweight, nervous, or have some other disorder which explains their inability to accomplish the same feat as a few others. If they fail to fall into the other categories, they simply MUST have defective cameras. This is a very narrow view and people shouldn't be demeaned just because they are different. At least you recognize that this feat isn't "normal" and that it DOES take practice and/or experience.
 
Daniella's caustic response to Jerry Rosen was really uncalled for
but this sort of thing seems to be overlooked where she's
concerned.
English doesn't seem to be Daniella's first language. Perhaps her style results from a lack of translation skills.

In spite of the fact that multiple people have pointed out her rudeness to her she either doesn't understand it or chooses to go on being rude.

Probably best to treat her like one would treat any troll - purposeful or accidental - and ignor.

--
bob
http://www.pbase.com/bobtrips
pictures from Thailand, Myanmar(Burma), and Nepal
 
It all depends on what shutter speed you are using and how stable
your hands are. I can do it up to 1/30s without too much problem,
but some older people will have problems at slower shutter speed
then 1/200s.
Have you given any thought to getting into "shooting competition?". I could hit a bullseye 0ne out of 3 times at 100 yards with a 30/06 lying on the ground or using a bench rest. I used to do 3 outa 5 but old age is getting to me.

I have trouble shooting the C700 at full zoom resting the camera on the open truck window.

--
George, K2EWL http://wwwbg.tripod.com
Pics at http://www.pbase.com/george_druther
D360L, C3000Z, C2100UZ, C700UZ, E-10, Nikon CP700,
2 crummy vivitar digitals and a whole bunch of antique film exposing machines
 
Let me put it this way...i can do it and so other can do it. it is insanity to think that i alone can do such thing..

BTW, my mother can handhold it at 1/30s and she is not young..

As for other factors that can influence why someone is shaking more than others...I don,t think weight could be a reason..but you said it.

I think age and nutrition might influence, as well as drinking coffee. My sister drinks lots of coffee and she is shaking a lot..she can't hold her hand straight in front of her without simulating an hearthquake.

I have frankly no idea why you are so upset because people can do things that you cannot. I don't get upset because i cannot speak Spanish...but i know that many people do..that does no mean that because i cannot shoot an arrow, that other people cannot.
I can also shoot at full zoom with my C-700 at 1/30sec. Many years
with my A-1 and long lenses taught me this discipline. . Beautiful
photographs have been taken with long lenses years before anybody
even dreamed of digital photography.

IS is a faster way from here-to-there

IS is a useful tool that allows virtually anyone to capture a sharp
image at long focal lengths.

There is always bickering when this subject comes up. A camera is a
tool, nothing more. A Leica in the wrong hands makes mediocre
snapshots, a simple box with a lens, in the hands of Ansel Adams,
made images that will span the ages.

--
rich
c-700, d-510
'always remember you are unique, just like everyone else'
http://www.pbase.com/iceninevt
Daniella's caustic response to Jerry Rosen was really uncalled for
but this sort of thing seems to be overlooked where she's
concerned. I'm glad she can take handheld shots with her C700 at
full zoom at such slow shutter speeds. That's a very good ability
to have. I could also probably take handheld, fully zoomed shots
at 1/30th with a bit of concentration but I prefer to use a camera
with a tool that insures the majority of my handheld shots at slow
shutter speeds WILL be sharp without having to worry about it. I
demand sharp photos and anything which helps me towards that end is
a welcome addition. I think it's sad that people who can't handhold
a camera at 380mm and get sharp shots at very slow shutter speeds
are relegated to the aged, overweight, nervous, or have some other
disorder which explains their inability to accomplish the same feat
as a few others. If they fail to fall into the other categories,
they simply MUST have defective cameras. This is a very narrow view
and people shouldn't be demeaned just because they are different.
At least you recognize that this feat isn't "normal" and that it
DOES take practice and/or experience.
--
Daniella
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
C700 FORUM: http://www.c700uz.com
 
not exactly, i am French. but i respond to rudness with rudness...My respond to Jerry Rossen was in reply to his insulting post, and i think i pretty much controled my temper on that one..i can have an even worse temper you know! :)
Daniella's caustic response to Jerry Rosen was really uncalled for
but this sort of thing seems to be overlooked where she's
concerned.
English doesn't seem to be Daniella's first language. Perhaps her
style results from a lack of translation skills.

In spite of the fact that multiple people have pointed out her
rudeness to her she either doesn't understand it or chooses to go
on being rude.

Probably best to treat her like one would treat any troll -
purposeful or accidental - and ignor.

--
bob
http://www.pbase.com/bobtrips
pictures from Thailand, Myanmar(Burma), and Nepal
--
Daniella
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
C700 FORUM: http://www.c700uz.com
 
Let me put it this way...i can do it and so other can do it. it is
insanity to think that i alone can do such thing..
I'm sure that others can do what you do but they're in the minority... not the majority as you propose. Why do you think so many people marvel at your ability and others, like Jerry, find it difficult to believe?
BTW, my mother can handhold it at 1/30s and she is not young..
Good for her. I assume you mean at FULL ZOOM and get EVERY shot sharp, right? If so, that's wondrous.
As for other factors that can influence why someone is shaking more
than others...I don,t think weight could be a reason..but you said
it.
No, actually YOU said it... to MY WIFE. She was quite insulted by it too. That's the lengths you'll go to in order to explain someone not loving the C700.
I think age and nutrition might influence, as well as drinking
coffee. My sister drinks lots of coffee and she is shaking a
lot..she can't hold her hand straight in front of her without
simulating an hearthquake.

I have frankly no idea why you are so upset because people can do
things that you cannot. I don't get upset because i cannot speak
Spanish...but i know that many people do..that does no mean that
because i cannot shoot an arrow, that other people cannot.
You're quite mistaken. I'm not upset because you can do something I cannot. What bothers me is how someone can demean another person here in this forum for having a differing opinion like you do so often. At any rate, I'm not the one who keeps dredging this topic up or jumping on it at every opportunity. This subject had been dormant for over two weeks before you revived it. You're obviously very upset at Jerry. It would appear that you're upset that people can't do what you do or even believe that YOU can actually do it. You seem to want to make it appear that it's nothing to be able to handhold a camera for 1/10th of a second at a full 380mm zoom and easily get sharp images. I feel that's misleading people. Many, many people don't follow your regimen. They tend to drink coffee or soda, smoke, eat the wrong foods, and probably don't workout on a regular basis as you do.
 

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