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I am in the market for a new computer and have a local shop that willl build it for me. I have had Dells in the past, but I am tired of the poor support and want to keep it local. Here are my needs: A system that can handle large image files, Adobe Photoshop and some video editing.
If money is not an object, what would your system have?
Thanks
 
Intel Core 2 Duo X6800, 3GB of fast RAM, 2 74GB WD Raptors in a RAID 0 array for the system, 3 400 GB drives in a RAID 5 array for programs and data, 1 250GB drive for photoshop scratch disk, Motherboard: One that can have 6 SATA drive connected to it and has 2 16x PCI-X ports, 700W PSU, 2 Nvidia 7950GT video cards, 2 30" LCD monitors, 2 NEC DVD burners and a HUGE case to hold all of it with many fans to keep it cool.
 
Priced in US$

ASUS P5B Deluxe WiFi/AP................$220
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 2.13GHz........$220
Team Group 2GB DDR2 800..............$300
XFX Geforce 7900GT 256MB..............$216 (after $40 rebate)
Antec SOLO ATX Mid Tower..............$90
2x Antec TriCool 92mm DBB Fan.........$13 (optional front fans)
Silverstone SST-ST50EF 500W PSU.....$88
Zalman CPNS9500 AT CPU Cooler........$48
2x Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB..$190
LiteOn 16x DVD+ -RW burner drive......$31
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi PCI audio....$65
PowerColor Theater 550 PRO PCI-E.....$70
Thermalright HR-03 GPU Cooler...........$48
Antec TriCool 92mm DBB Fan.............$6 (fan for above)
Arctic Silver Ceramique.......................$6
Round IDE cable...............................$3


Total.............................................$1,614

With some tweaking you can easily run this system at:
CPU = 3.2GHz
Clock = 400MHz
FSB = 1600MHz
RAM = 800MHz

Of course, there are any number of upgrades you could make and a lesser number of cost-saving downgrades depending on your preferences.

Conroe Buying Guide: Feeding the Monster
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2797&p=1

Core 2 Duo Platforms From Asus
http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q3/asus-c2d/index.x?pg=1

Choosing the Right Memory for Core 2 Duo
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/core2duo-memory-guide.html
 
wow, thanks so much for the input. I had been reading about the Intel core duo and thought that was a good start, but this informatin is great....thanks again
 
If money is not an object, what would your system have?
The part about money not being an object is sure to throw off most recommendations. Not many people are qualified to recommend the components to be custom-configured into an $8,000 liquid-cooled computer becuase not many people build such computers.

You'd be better off specifiying a budget along with your concerns (if any) about quietness and future-proofing.
 
I guess you are right about the money no object thing. I don't even know what a liquid cool computer is. My last system was around $4,000 and I would like to stay at or below that. I need to run photoshop with multiple large files open at the same time I am processing raw images and I frequently have adobe premier running while printing or writing files to DVD's. I guess I need to know what processor, what type of memory and motherboard reccomendations and graphics card suggestions.
Thanks
 
What about windows upgrade coming out in a few months. Is it worth waiting before buying a new computer now or doesn't it matter? I don't mean to borrow your thread but I too have a Dell and would like a new computer too.
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fredyr
 
Actually IMO it is worth buying NOW if you are going to buy a BUILT system from some place like Dell, HP, whoever.
What about windows upgrade coming out in a few months. Is it worth
waiting before buying a new computer now or doesn't it matter? I
don't mean to borrow your thread but I too have a Dell and would
like a new computer too.
--
fredyr
 
--I also forgot to mention that Intel is also coming out with a new type of system made here in Israel so that was another reason for waiting or am I wrong?
fredyr
 
I guess you are right about the money no object thing. I don't even
know what a liquid cool computer is. My last system was around
$4,000 and I would like to stay at or below that. I need to run
photoshop with multiple large files open at the same time I am
processing raw images and I frequently have adobe premier running
while printing or writing files to DVD's. I guess I need to know
what processor, what type of memory and motherboard reccomendations
and graphics card suggestions.
Thanks
There's no need to spend more than $1500 - $1800 for a photo editing machine. Most on-board video is just fine unless you're capturing video or playing Quake4.

You just need a decent "Pentium" processor and asus board with on-board video and ethernet, a minimum of 1 gig memory (preferably more), high quality power supply. Everything else is just typical, decent dvd recorder (without lightscribe), multi card reader. That's about it. Probably come in under $1500.

Then spend the rest of the money on software and, what else...speakers!
 
Actually IMO it is worth buying NOW if you are going to buy a BUILT
system from some place like Dell, HP, whoever.
I disagree. First, DDR2 memory is in a price bubble - up a third over prices just two months ago. Second, with Vista scheduled for release in Q1-2007, computer sales are likely to be slow at the holidays thus resulting in record low pricing in December. Third, the OEM's that jumped on Intel's BTX form-factor bandwagon (for the overheated Pentium line) will find that form-factor phased out over the next year.

"Intel set to kill BTX in 2007"
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34996

What makes NOW a great time to buy a computer? Admittedly, I just purchased the parts for a new ATX system but I did that only because I wanted to and not because now was the right time to buy (it isn’t).
 
Never use Raid 0...

5 or 0+1 are okay for performance if you have a hardware raid card, but those are quite expensive. Software RAID 0 gives very little performance benefit and doubles risk of failure. The only reason to run software raid would be for redundancy not performance.
 
Because in a few months all the makers of built systems, Dell HP whoever, will be shipping Vista with there PC's. So the time to buy is before Vista comes out. Again my opinion.

Just say NO to Vista. You are right the cost of RAM has gone up. But it still is very cheap. Back in 94 or 95 I paid $465 for 32 MB of EDO RAM. I Resently spent $250+ - for 2GB. Back then 2GB would of cost me $29000+, although I probably could gotten a break on it for the large order.
Actually IMO it is worth buying NOW if you are going to buy a BUILT
system from some place like Dell, HP, whoever.
I disagree. First, DDR2 memory is in a price bubble - up a third
over prices just two months ago. Second, with Vista scheduled for
release in Q1-2007, computer sales are likely to be slow at the
holidays thus resulting in record low pricing in December. Third,
the OEM's that jumped on Intel's BTX form-factor bandwagon (for the
overheated Pentium line) will find that form-factor phased out over
the next year.

"Intel set to kill BTX in 2007"
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34996

What makes NOW a great time to buy a computer? Admittedly, I just
purchased the parts for a new ATX system but I did that only
because I wanted to and not because now was the right time to buy
(it isn’t).
 
Surprised no one has mentioned the AMD 64 bit Dual Core processors.

The 3-D design program Solid WOrks is as intensive on graphics and computation as it gets in the world of computers.

The recommendations of the majority of users is for AMD over Intel by a very wide margin.

The machines we have built for our designers are all AMD 64 bit DUAL core incorporaqting 10,000 RPM SATA drives and at least 4 gig s of memory and PCI express graphics cards.

Although not normally used with Photo shop, when I have used Adobe CS2 on the machines every operation is very very fast.

AMD chips tend to be less expensive than INTEL, but in these applications the cost is not the issue, speed is.

bILL
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As with many things in life a great photograph has strong appeal for what is NOT in the picture.
 
Memory has a very large effect on the system performance. Probably more than faster HDs. On my current machine I had forgotten a plan to replace 2 - 512MB sticks with 3 1 gig sticks as the budget loosened up. Yesterday I stuck another 512 MB stick in the machine. Noticed almost a 20% speed improvement withtout changing any thing else. That was with CS2, Bridge, and ThumbsPlus Pro all running at same time. The fewer writes to virtual memory the better.

So back to the store this weekend and 3 gigs for the machine. This gets me started on my next system as the memory will work in my 64 Bit AMD upgrade.

Paul Stricklin
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Club, Event Photographer to pay for the equipment
Nature, Landscape for the joy of life

LPS
 
Memory has a very large effect on the system performance. Probably
more than faster HDs. On my current machine I had forgotten a plan
to replace 2 - 512MB sticks with 3 1 gig sticks as the budget
loosened up. Yesterday I stuck another 512 MB stick in the
machine.
Can we assume then that this machine is running either SDRAM, RDRAM, or DDR RAM? Current DDR2 memory runs best with only two of the four DIMM slots populated. Some motherboard/DDR2 combinations won't work with three DIMMs and with four DIMMs (4 x 512MB) you're likely to see about a 10% decrease in memory performance as compared against only two DIMMs (2 x 1024MB). FYI.
 

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