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Mike Fulton wrote:
Agreed so "snip"
Mike Fulton said:
So aside from the question of speed, which is infinitely variable
and far too dependent on the particular mix of hardware being
tested, how is the Mac any better for "photography and graphic"
work?

Mike
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Hi Mike,

You are entirely right. I too have both systems and have had Mac's since the very first one was introduced - in those days I sold them for Connecting Point...

There is no real reason why the Mac is any better for Photographers than the PC. In fact, a few years ago I switched to the PC simply because there is more software and developers support it first because it makes more economic sense to sell to the majority first then exploit the niche markets.

The controversy over Mac versus PC reminds me of the Bayer/Foveon wars, not really worth getting involved with because of the almost "religious" fervor which people bring to their support of one or the other.

They are only tools to me and I use whichever works best - it's really a shame that so much effort is expended trying to justify one's choice of equipment rather than simply using what one has or enjoys to the fullest extent to further the art and science of photography.

Best regards,

Lin
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Rob Duke said:
The most ludicrous thing one could say is to say that mac users out
number pc users...in any forum...

Check the numbers of pc sales to mac...check out who is using mac
or pc on this very forum...

Heck...lets do an informal survey right now...

Who is using mac compared to pc...

Anyone who responds to this post put PC or MAC at the begining of
you subject line...

Not scientific but telling...

RD
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Matthew Cromer said:
The best answer of all I got was the PC fan who answered how easy
it is to avoid viruses and worms on the PC.

"Don't use high-speed, always on internet connections".

Yeah. That's the ticket.
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And the best way to avoid plane crashes is to look both ways before crossing the street.

Always-on connections don't really make it any easier for a virus or worm to infect your system. I know far more people with dial-up access who have had virus problems than people with broadband connections.

If there's no firewall or other protection on your internet connection, then there's always a chance of someone hacking into your system. It doesn't matter what kind of connection it is, or what kind of system you have. (Although, what they can do once they've broken in does depend on your OS.)

But that's not the same thing as a virus or worm, and even a fairly simple firewall such as that found in a $50 router (or the one built into WinXP) will defeat most such attacks.

Viruses and worms spread through executable programs that are virtually always launched by the user at some point, either conciously or unconciously. Once upon a time, they were spread primarily through the boot sector on floppy disks. These days it's mostly through EMAIL or by exploiting buffer-overflow bugs in web browsers, or maybe they might be embedded in a downloaded program.

If you get a virus attached to an EMAIL and you open the message, then your system can be infected regardless of the status of your internet connection at the moment. Some viruses or worms may may use an internet connection to do something as part of their mischief, but that only happens AFTER your system is infected.

Really, the best way to avoid infection is to PAY ATTENTION. Use a firewall to keep out hackers and up to date anti-virus software to scan your email and any programs you might download.

Mike
 
Matthew Cromer said:
Mike Fulton said:
Matthew Cromer said:
I like them better, and no virus or worm issues to deal with.
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So, the various anti-virus programs sold for the Mac are just
complete rip-offs then?
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Basically, yes.
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My first-ever virus problem was on a Mac, long before I had my first PC. In 1988. Then, not a week later, we had a virus problem on the Atari ST computers at work.

Shortly thereafter, I made sure that ALL of my machines had anti-virus software. Since then, the only virus problems I've had to deal with have been on friend's and co-worker's computers where they DIDN'T have anti-virus software installed.

These days, like everything else in the computing world, most virus programs target Windows-based systems. But don't kid yourself that the problem is completely non-existent on your Mac, or Linux, or whatever other system you might have.

Mike
 
I have used Macs since 94 and naver with any anti-virus.I have yet to see one of thouse bugs in my computer. I may be lucky because PC people get infected regurlarly.

Just look at hotmail, -also manufactured by Microsoft-, there is so much junk coming in... I use Eudoramail.com, equivalent to hotmail and never ever I get any junk mail.

It seams that the favorite flavor for viruses is MS...
Mike Fulton said:
Matthew Cromer said:
The best answer of all I got was the PC fan who answered how easy
it is to avoid viruses and worms on the PC.

"Don't use high-speed, always on internet connections".

Yeah. That's the ticket.
Click to expand...
And the best way to avoid plane crashes is to look both ways before
crossing the street.

Always-on connections don't really make it any easier for a virus
or worm to infect your system. I know far more people with dial-up
access who have had virus problems than people with broadband
connections.

If there's no firewall or other protection on your internet
connection, then there's always a chance of someone hacking into
your system. It doesn't matter what kind of connection it is, or
what kind of system you have. (Although, what they can do once
they've broken in does depend on your OS.)

But that's not the same thing as a virus or worm, and even a fairly
simple firewall such as that found in a $50 router (or the one
built into WinXP) will defeat most such attacks.

Viruses and worms spread through executable programs that are
virtually always launched by the user at some point, either
conciously or unconciously. Once upon a time, they were spread
primarily through the boot sector on floppy disks. These days it's
mostly through EMAIL or by exploiting buffer-overflow bugs in web
browsers, or maybe they might be embedded in a downloaded program.

If you get a virus attached to an EMAIL and you open the message,
then your system can be infected regardless of the status of your
internet connection at the moment. Some viruses or worms may may
use an internet connection to do something as part of their
mischief, but that only happens AFTER your system is infected.

Really, the best way to avoid infection is to PAY ATTENTION. Use a
firewall to keep out hackers and up to date anti-virus software to
scan your email and any programs you might download.

Mike
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Rob Duke said:
The most ludicrous thing one could say is to say that mac users out
number pc users...in any forum...

Check the numbers of pc sales to mac...check out who is using mac
or pc on this very forum...

Heck...lets do an informal survey right now...

Who is using mac compared to pc...

Anyone who responds to this post put PC or MAC at the begining of
you subject line...

Not scientific but telling...

RD
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Hi Rob,

Only Macs and several Pro photographers I know in my area are also working on Mac (some have 1 PC for some jobs on their printers coming from PC, but if possible they prefer to transfer them to the Mac).

With very kind regards,

Dirk

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http://www.2point8.be
 
.. I use Illuminatus Opus, Thumbs Plus, Irfanview, Pixaround, Panavue ImageAssembler,Axialis, Namo, Avery Label Pro, Picture Publisher ( I know it's obsolete but I still like it best of all) and experimenting with Lura Document.
(+ Photoshop and the other dual platform stuff of course).
 
Yep, if you know what you're doing... It isn't any less secure then Linux if the person doesn't take precautions. And Mac OS/X is no different, there just aren't as many people trying to attack it... Come to think of it, there aren't as many people writing for it either are there?
Matthew Cromer said:
Yes, very easy to keep your computer secure using Windows, right?
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I have been using PC's for the last couple decades. My PC's have been on the internet since circa 1993 (Prodigy and CompuServe before then), six years of broadband and four years of T1 line before that. I must have had several hundred terabytes of data coming and going via my PC during the last 10 years. Never once did any of my PC's get worm or virus. Nor have my PC's crashed much since around 1994, when they were installed with Windows NT (later 2k and XP) and Linux; perhaps a couple times a year, even if that. That is much better than any Mac clusters can boast in the pre-OS X era, despite all the stability claims we hear from Mac fans.
Matthew Cromer said:
PCs suck -- and that's without the security nightmare issues. Can
we say "worm-bait"?

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