Amazon.com renigs

[Rriley]

we all saw posts here about the price of E-410
and the conclusion was it was a mistake

so you tried it on them an found it wasnt going to work for you
end of story

--
Riley

not all that counts, can be counted

 

[TeasleyPhoto]

It is highly possible this was some sort of marketing ploy from the beginning. Something to get potential customers excited about. I do feel the customer should not pay for the mistake made by the vendor. As one poster stated, this could be labeled as bait and switch easily and no different than some of the lame backroom NY sites.

Doug

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The box stated, 'Requires Windows XP or better', so I installed Linux!

 

[ephemere1]

Sounds like they could have handled the communication to customers
more graciously / effectively.

I doubt it. You're never going to please the stubborn masses who live under the misguided notion that any web page popping up on their screen constitutes a binding contract that sides with them at every possible angle.

Otherwise, everything else you wrote is the voice of reason. Of course it was a mistake.

 

[Rexian]

Hmm... I wonder if that's true. I have been checking the prices of both bodies regularly. I also posted a thread here with the links to the prices of both bodies when someone first noticed the price mistake of E-410.

The price of E-510 has been consistent (at MSRP) since the beginning and that's why people were ordering E-410 when they saw it was available for $499. If E-510 body was available at $599, this forum wouldn't have had any other topic.

 

[BillZM]

It is highly possible this was some sort of marketing ploy from the
beginning. Something to get potential customers excited about. I do
feel the customer should not pay for the mistake made by the
vendor. As one poster stated, this could be labeled as bait and
switch easily and no different than some of the lame backroom NY
sites.

"bait & cancel" you mean??? doesn't sound like much of a sales tactic!

 

[Inigo Montoya]

I think the poster was trying to do you a favor. If not Amazon,
then perhaps your other photographic purchases are delivered to the
address you listed.

Exactly.

Maybe I should pay him a visit to make that point in person?

Funny thing is, I'll wager that if the OP paid proper attention, by the terms and conditions put forth by Amazon their action was probably "covered".

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E-One/E-Three-Hundred/DZ Fourteen-Fifty-Four/DZ Fifty-Two-Hundred/FL-Fifty
E-Ten/C-Twenty-One-Hundred-UZ/E-One-Hundred-RS/D-Four-Hundred-Z
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[Inigo Montoya]

It was a mistake. You're not entitled to it. You weren't screwed,
you just want to screw someone else for your own personal gain.

Agreed.

Americans and their idiotic "customer is always right" attitude and
overblown sense of legal righteousness....

Hmmm... who's being self righteous now?

But you're right... all 300+ million of us share the exact same attitudes.

Yeesh.

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E-One/E-Three-Hundred/DZ Fourteen-Fifty-Four/DZ Fifty-Two-Hundred/FL-Fifty
E-Ten/C-Twenty-One-Hundred-UZ/E-One-Hundred-RS/D-Four-Hundred-Z
Oldma-cdon-aldh-adaf-arm-EI-EI-O

 

[BillZM]

Hmm... I wonder if that's true. I have been checking the prices of
both bodies regularly. I also posted a thread here with the links
to the prices of both bodies when someone first noticed the price
mistake of E-410.

The price of E-510 has been consistent (at MSRP) since the
beginning and that's why people were ordering E-410 when they saw
it was available for $499. If E-510 body was available at $599,
this forum wouldn't have had any other topic.

I was pretty sure the E-510 was listed at $599 body only when I looked because I checked to see the price difference and it was $100 higher than the E-410. Maybe they fixed that one first. Not the first or last mistake we'll see I'm sure.

 

[yesicntpixels]

It appears that OP should read Amazon's policy in regards to this before posting his complaints on this board, kinda make himself/herself silly. A mistake is done, but in this age, lots of folks have this belief that for each mistake, a monetary compensation is expected.

From Amazons web site page on pricing.

"If an item's correct price is higher than our stated price, we
will, at our discretion, either contact you for instructions before
shipping or cancel your order and notify you of such cancellation."

Not getting a nice bargain can be disappointing and sometimes quite
aggravating. I been through a couple of instances that still raise
my blood pressure when I think of them.

My condolences
Mike

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AA - still on the road to my quest for that perfect picture...

 

[RManzo]

Amen, brother !

--' Its not about having what you want. But rather, wanting what you have ' ( After you have it

 

[Louis_Dobson]

universal here, and there is no point in complaining about it - last time I pointed out to someone they were being unreasonable I got banned. You are wasting your virtual breath.

It seems to be the case that:

When someone puts silly price on the web by mistake, they have apparently actually sold you the camera, even if you haven't actually given them any money. If they don't send it to you they have stolen your.... eh, no hang on, well they are a company so they must be stealing your money one way or another.

When you get your camera however, apparently you HAVEN'T bought it. You can send it back if you don't like. In fact you can send it back if you DO like it, but just fancy something else, or just wish you hadn't spent the money. You can send back as many as you like. Apparently the camera then gets un-made, all the costs of making it are returned through the line, you haven't been dishonest, and there are fairies at the bottom of my garden.

If there is anything about the camera you don't like, say it is made of plastic, then it is faulty. You can keep sending it back. If they don't give you a whole new camera, they are lying theives.

The camera companies have millions of reps out there, who only take a handful of shots, and then give their cameras to Cameta to sell cheap. The company doesn't mind because these cameras don't cost anything to make. Naturally, these cameras are not in fact "faulty" ones returned by morons. Those don't exist.

The costs imposed by halving the value of perfectly good cameras and tying up huge numbers of staff answering impertinent or foolish questions or giving you a second camera when you only paid for one blow away on Spring breezes. The $1,000 or so you pay for camera does not have an element to cover the costs of people returning perfectly good cameras and harrasing people who get a price wrong, those costs, as I stated above, float away on the wind.

Many people on here believe those things, and since everyone on here is a good, wise person with an intimate knowledge of how the world works, they must be true.

Try smashing your head against a brick wall repeatedly for a few hours until you have the IQ of a springer spaniel and you may come to believe them too.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/acam

 

[Olyinaz]

Americans and their idiotic "customer is always right" attitude and overblown sense of legal righteousness....

with thier idiotic "customer is always a fool" attitude and overblown short man's complex....

 

[Olyinaz]

Hardly. Given what I paid for my $899 list price E-500 less than a year ago the price offered on Amazon wasn't "silly" in the slightest - it was merely a very good deal that was well within the bounds of normalcy given manufacturer's list prices vs. web retailers common prices.

No, the only thing "silly" here is the OP's a bit over the top ire at the whole thing (I was annoyed about it but that's pretty much as far as it went until I read the BULL SHEET comments in this thread) and your and several others broad brush criticisms of those around you. Driving home from work today I heard a great book review on the radio that your rant made me mindful of and based on your "my poo doesn't stink" attitude I suggest that you take the following self-exam: http://www.clipmarks.com/clipmark/11BC474B-3A06-41CD-9C80-BAB1C1770583/

Oly

 

[Louis_Dobson]

it would be fun to re-write it so the "right" answer isn't so obvious.

While I was following your link however I noticed CostCo are apparently limiting their thieves' charter - oops, returns policy.
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[Larry Lynch]

One of my favorite vendors. Very honest and customer-friendly.
They are trying to provide a service allowing pre-orders. It only
works for them if they reserve the right to cancel if the pricing
turns out to be substantially different than they believed when
they established the listing. Otherwise, allowing pre-orders would
be too risky for them to do it. So it just goes with the territory.
Yes, obviously it's a disappointment to those ready to jump on a
great deal, but that's just the way it is. The pre-order price
seemed too good to be true, right? That's why people were jumping
on it. Well, it was apparently.
I wouldn't conclude anything negative re: Amazon from this. They
are extremely reliable. Be thankful they allow pre-orders at all
(and seem to have the commitment from vendors to fulfill those
orders quickly). If pre-orders create too many losses or customer
satisfaction issues, I'm sure they'll stop doing pre-orders
altogether.

I agree with this post.

Also, earlier on in the thread the OP said "They didn't offer me the package at the higher price" (or something to that effect).

That is correct... if they HAD offered it at a higher price, it could be considered a "bait and switch" and they could get in trouble for it. The only "proper" thing for them to do is cancel the sale, which is what they did.
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It seems Mark Twain had something to say about all the speculation on Oly's next Pro DSLR

'There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact'. Mark Twain.

Larry Lynch
Mystic, Ct.

 

[Bootstrap]

Louis,

Well written response. Thanks. I do, however, take exception to the quote below.

Try smashing your head against a brick wall repeatedly for a few
hours until you have the IQ of a springer spaniel and you may come
to believe them too.

My ½ Springer Spaniel has an IQ much higher than some of the posters here.


--
Troll Whisperer

 

[BillZM]

There are ample visible displays of humorous antics and even outright stupidity around the world. We all see this every day.

Global visibility varies of course, depending on the fame of the person involved and depending on the news channels in the countries involved (and whether these are accessible around the world).

And some of us are quick to stereotype whole classes of people, by country, by ethnic background, by gender, by hair color, whatever... But in reality we're all different. And sometimes the stereotypes aren't even correlated with reality; they can be MOSTLY wrong.

Admittedly stereotypes can be amusing, whether correlated with reality or not, but they are not terribly useful in understanding people and can be harmful in feeding others' pre-conceived notions.

Sorry. Didn't mean to get preachy, but I was kinda laughing at the bits of humor, rants, and inferences about people's characters in this thread. It reminded me of the earlier Costco return thread. I think we all need to get out and take some pictures!

 

[Bootstrap]

Amazon did not renege http://www.answers.com/renege?gwp=11&ver=2.1.1.521&method=3 based on the terms published in their "Terms and Conditions."

As to whether they "renig"ed is another question. I tried several searches and was unable to find a definition.
--
Troll Whisperer

 

[JD Davis]

I don't think you should sterotype Americans, and I don't appreciate it. At least most of us, unlike wussies like you, don't want to bend over and take up the wang..

There are laws in place because of lousy business practices that have occured here, that you know nothing about. I just know all the business practices there are totally perfect, and they would think of screwing anyone... (Sarcasm)

Your remark was totally stupid..

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JD

Geez.. freedom is a beautiful thing... although it isn't always convenient for some people.

E500 - FL36 - Kits - OM Zuiko 300mm - OM 2x teleconverter

 

[JD Davis]

Amazon did not renege
http://www.answers.com/renege?gwp=11&ver=2.1.1.521&method=3 based
on the terms published in their "Terms and Conditions."
As to whether they "renig"ed is another question. I tried several
searches and was unable to find a definition.
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Try this..

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=renege

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JD

Geez.. freedom is a beautiful thing... although it isn't always convenient for some people.

E500 - FL36 - Kits - OM Zuiko 300mm - OM 2x teleconverter