A7-iii vs. A7c

[Ringwraith69]

Hi all,

Currently, I have an A7, A7-ii and A7R-ii. I'm thinking of upgrading a little but don't necessarily need the latest model or features. I don't do video, so video-related features aren't relevant for me, too.

Currently there is a cashback action in The Netherlands that has me looking at either the A7-iii or the A7c. I've done my research, read loads of reviews, but I'm kind of torn here. The A7-iii has a form factor more or less identical to my other A7's and the better EVF. The A7c has the more compact body, the more versatile screen and last but not least the better AF.

Any thoughts or experiences that could help me make a choice between these two?

Thanx!

 

[Adam-T]

Currently there is a cashback action in The Netherlands that has me looking at either the A7-iii or the A7c. I've done my research, read loads of reviews, but I'm kind of torn here. The A7-iii has a form factor more or less identical to my other A7's and the better EVF. The A7c has the more compact body, the more versatile screen and last but not least the better AF.

Any thoughts or experiences that could help me make a choice between these two?

Thanx!

the A7, A7R2 and A7-III all have 2Mp EVFs, it was the A7R3 which got the 3.6Mp one . I can`t see what an A7-III would add (apart from better high ISOs than your Mk1 & 2) , it was a great camera but you already have one in the A7R2 which still has one of the best FF sensors made .... the A7-III lacks RTT era AF which the A7C has , that was the big step in Sony AF but the A7C body itself is lacking in Ergonomics .,

I`d suggest waiting until you can do a proper upgrade to something more recent . yeah the A7-III is still a good camera now and has the best IQ of all the 24Mp Fullframers but its way behind the curve now regarding AF etc..

I`d suggest waiting til you can grab a used or low price A7-IV maybe ? ., you could even trade in both of the Mk2 cameras along the way ? .

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[LenRivers]

Hi all,

Currently, I have an A7, A7-ii and A7R-ii. I'm thinking of upgrading a little but don't necessarily need the latest model or features. I don't do video, so video-related features aren't relevant for me, too.

Currently there is a cashback action in The Netherlands that has me looking at either the A7-iii or the A7c. I've done my research, read loads of reviews, but I'm kind of torn here. The A7-iii has a form factor more or less identical to my other A7's and the better EVF. The A7c has the more compact body, the more versatile screen and last but not least the better AF.

Any thoughts or experiences that could help me make a choice between these two?

Thanx!

 

[Jefenator]

I love using the iii at home. It feels like driving a luxury car with the relatively large EVF & all the buttons mapped out just the way I like.

I do find myself using my APS-C rangefinder style body - or original A7 - more for EDC / hiking / travel.

When one of those finally gives out, the 7c is on my short list. (Maybe the A6400 to save a few ounces & bucks. But I do feel a little more “married” to the full frame format.)

 

[f1point4andbethere]

Had the A7III, traded it for the A7C after trying one. For me the size was a stark difference, but the AF with RT tracking is much better, especially for video. Also, having no 29.59 minute record limit for video was a major reason, as I use it as an unmanned camera for speeches.

 

[NAwlins Contrarian]

Currently, I have an A7, A7-ii and A7R-ii. I'm thinking of upgrading a little but don't necessarily need the latest model or features. I don't do video, so video-related features aren't relevant for me, too.

Currently there is a cashback action in The Netherlands that has me looking at either the A7-iii or the A7c. I've done my research, read loads of reviews, but I'm kind of torn here. The A7-iii has a form factor more or less identical to my other A7's and the better EVF. The A7c has the more compact body, the more versatile screen and last but not least the better AF.

Any thoughts or experiences that could help me make a choice between these two?

Strictly confined to a choice between an A7 III and an A7C, and knowing nothing about what you shoot, what you want to shoot, or how you most want to improve on your current cameras, to me the A7C's much smaller viewfinder (0.59x) would be too much of a loss relative to the A7 III's (0.78x) to make up for the A7C's better autofocus compared to the A7 III. An A7 III should already provide substantially better autofocus than any of your current cameras.

But stepping outside of those confines, I don't see much logic here at all. Why are you keeping an A7, an A7 II, and an A7R II? Have you seriously considered selling two or even all three of them, and using the extra money to fund something better than either an A7 III or an A7C? To me, in 'full size' bodies, an A7 IV would be considerably more appealing than an A7 III, and either an A7C II or A7CR (if you need resolution like your A7R II supplies) would be far more appealing than an A7C.

But that's to me. Again, I don't know what you shoot or where you think you're most needing an upgrade, I do feel confident, however, that in the context of buying new, "upgrading a little" is usually a terrible plan. Buy fewer cameras, keep them longer, and upgrade in bigger steps.

 

[Ringwraith69]

Currently, I have an A7, A7-ii and A7R-ii. I'm thinking of upgrading a little but don't necessarily need the latest model or features. I don't do video, so video-related features aren't relevant for me, too.

Currently there is a cashback action in The Netherlands that has me looking at either the A7-iii or the A7c. I've done my research, read loads of reviews, but I'm kind of torn here. The A7-iii has a form factor more or less identical to my other A7's and the better EVF. The A7c has the more compact body, the more versatile screen and last but not least the better AF.

Any thoughts or experiences that could help me make a choice between these two?

Strictly confined to a choice between an A7 III and an A7C, and knowing nothing about what you shoot, what you want to shoot, or how you most want to improve on your current cameras, to me the A7C's much smaller viewfinder (0.59x) would be too much of a loss relative to the A7 III's (0.78x) to make up for the A7C's better autofocus compared to the A7 III. An A7 III should already provide substantially better autofocus than any of your current cameras.

But stepping outside of those confines, I don't see much logic here at all. Why are you keeping an A7, an A7 II, and an A7R II? Have you seriously considered selling two or even all three of them, and using the extra money to fund something better than either an A7 III or an A7C? To me, in 'full size' bodies, an A7 IV would be considerably more appealing than an A7 III, and either an A7C II or A7CR (if you need resolution like your A7R II supplies) would be far more appealing than an A7C.

But that's to me. Again, I don't know what you shoot or where you think you're most needing an upgrade, I do feel confident, however, that in the context of buying new, "upgrading a little" is usually a terrible plan. Buy fewer cameras, keep them longer, and upgrade in bigger steps.

I use my A7's mainly for landscape, nature and concert photography, and a bit of macro work.

Just to be clear: I don't intend (and never stated I did) to keep all of my current A7's. The 'original' A7 will be sold or maybe I'll pass it on to my wife. I'll hold on to the A7R-ii, not sure yet about the faith of the A7-ii. Up to a certain point I can follow what you're saying. But slow upgrades and not rushing into the latest and greatest has worked very well for me so far, at least in keeping costs down a bit. And I do hang on to my cameras for quite a while. I bought my A7 in 2018, for instance.

With the current cashbacks and an extra discount from my local camera store, I can get the A7-iii for € 1.299. The A7-iv clocks in at € 2.299 with the cashback, no extra discount. So I have to wonder if the extra advantages of the IV are worth € 1.000 to me.

The main advantages of the IV over the II are (as far as I can tell):

• higher resolution sensor
• higher resolution EVF and higher resolution (fully articulating) LCD
• better video features and performance
• better AF performance, specifically in tracking subjects
• better UI/Menu structure

Only 2 of these would be deciders for me: the better AF and improved UI. The improved EVF and LCD are really nice to have, but no game changers. Same goes for the higher resolution. Nice to have, but for high res work the A7R-ii is still serving me very well. And video, well, I just literally never use it. Never have, never will, simply have no interest in it whatsoever. So are the AF and UI improvements worth an extra € 1.000 to me? Hmmm, honestly, probably not.

Then the III over the II:

• BSI vs. FSI sensor
• 693 vs. 117 AF points, better AF performance, specifically in tracking subjects
• higher FPS and bigger buffer
• better video features and performance
• better battery (life)

Except for (again) video, there are definite and for me relevant improvements in the III over the II. And right now they come at a relatively modest investment thanks to a total cashback and discount of € 400. Even though the III is starting to show distinct signs of it's age, it will be a noticeable step up from the II, especially in the AF performance which is where the II is mostly giving me, well, challenges.

As for the A7c, I',m very well aware of the drawbacks, especially where the EVF is concerned. The use case for that camera, if I'd go for that one, would however be totally different. I'd use it for city trips, street photography, hikes, etc. I have an a6400 for that now and like the form factor and the real time tracking AF, but the smaller sensor does have its limits in IQ, DOF, etc.

The A7c could be an interesting alternative for the a6400, not so much a replacement for the other A7's. And again, I get your reasoning about the A7c-ii or A7cr being better cameras. But again the price difference is considerable or even massive:

• A7c with € 200 cashback: € 1.519 (black) or € 1.549 (silver)
• A7c-ii (no cashback): € 2.398
• A7cr (no cashback): € 3.699

And I have to ask the same question. Are the extra improvements worth the considerable extra investment to me? Or would I be better off using the savings I make for spare batteries, a grip and/or other accessories? Tough call...

 

[DirkPeh]

Currently, I have an A7, A7-ii and A7R-ii. I'm thinking of upgrading a little but don't necessarily need the latest model or features. I don't do video, so video-related features aren't relevant for me, too.

Currently there is a cashback action in The Netherlands that has me looking at either the A7-iii or the A7c. I've done my research, read loads of reviews, but I'm kind of torn here. The A7-iii has a form factor more or less identical to my other A7's and the better EVF. The A7c has the more compact body, the more versatile screen and last but not least the better AF.

Any thoughts or experiences that could help me make a choice between these two?

Strictly confined to a choice between an A7 III and an A7C, and knowing nothing about what you shoot, what you want to shoot, or how you most want to improve on your current cameras, to me the A7C's much smaller viewfinder (0.59x) would be too much of a loss relative to the A7 III's (0.78x) to make up for the A7C's better autofocus compared to the A7 III. An A7 III should already provide substantially better autofocus than any of your current cameras.

But stepping outside of those confines, I don't see much logic here at all. Why are you keeping an A7, an A7 II, and an A7R II? Have you seriously considered selling two or even all three of them, and using the extra money to fund something better than either an A7 III or an A7C? To me, in 'full size' bodies, an A7 IV would be considerably more appealing than an A7 III, and either an A7C II or A7CR (if you need resolution like your A7R II supplies) would be far more appealing than an A7C.

But that's to me. Again, I don't know what you shoot or where you think you're most needing an upgrade, I do feel confident, however, that in the context of buying new, "upgrading a little" is usually a terrible plan. Buy fewer cameras, keep them longer, and upgrade in bigger steps.

I use my A7's mainly for landscape, nature and concert photography, and a bit of macro work.

Just to be clear: I don't intend (and never stated I did) to keep all of my current A7's. The 'original' A7 will be sold or maybe I'll pass it on to my wife. I'll hold on to the A7R-ii, not sure yet about the faith of the A7-ii. Up to a certain point I can follow what you're saying. But slow upgrades and not rushing into the latest and greatest has worked very well for me so far, at least in keeping costs down a bit. And I do hang on to my cameras for quite a while. I bought my A7 in 2018, for instance.

With the current cashbacks and an extra discount from my local camera store, I can get the A7-iii for € 1.299. The A7-iv clocks in at € 2.299 with the cashback, no extra discount. So I have to wonder if the extra advantages of the IV are worth € 1.000 to me.

The main advantages of the IV over the II are (as far as I can tell):

• higher resolution sensor
• higher resolution EVF and higher resolution (fully articulating) LCD
• better video features and performance
• better AF performance, specifically in tracking subjects
• better UI/Menu structure

Only 2 of these would be deciders for me: the better AF and improved UI. The improved EVF and LCD are really nice to have, but no game changers. Same goes for the higher resolution. Nice to have, but for high res work the A7R-ii is still serving me very well. And video, well, I just literally never use it. Never have, never will, simply have no interest in it whatsoever. So are the AF and UI improvements worth an extra € 1.000 to me? Hmmm, honestly, probably not.

Then the III over the II:

• BSI vs. FSI sensor
• 693 vs. 117 AF points, better AF performance, specifically in tracking subjects
• higher FPS and bigger buffer
• better video features and performance
• better battery (life)

Except for (again) video, there are definite and for me relevant improvements in the III over the II. And right now they come at a relatively modest investment thanks to a total cashback and discount of € 400. Even though the III is starting to show distinct signs of it's age, it will be a noticeable step up from the II, especially in the AF performance which is where the II is mostly giving me, well, challenges.

As for the A7c, I',m very well aware of the drawbacks, especially where the EVF is concerned. The use case for that camera, if I'd go for that one, would however be totally different. I'd use it for city trips, street photography, hikes, etc. I have an a6400 for that now and like the form factor and the real time tracking AF, but the smaller sensor does have its limits in IQ, DOF, etc.

The A7c could be an interesting alternative for the a6400, not so much a replacement for the other A7's. And again, I get your reasoning about the A7c-ii or A7cr being better cameras. But again the price difference is considerable or even massive:

• A7c with € 200 cashback: € 1.519 (black) or € 1.549 (silver)
• A7c-ii (no cashback): € 2.398
• A7cr (no cashback): € 3.699

And I have to ask the same question. Are the extra improvements worth the considerable extra investment to me? Or would I be better off using the savings I make for spare batteries, a grip and/or other accessories? Tough call...

Where do you live?

The A7CR is 3.699,-, but in Germany the ordinary price for the A7c II is 2.079,-. An A7 IV is 1.800,- - 2.000,- new, the A7 III is 1.299,-. The A7c II with the 28-60 kit zoom is 2.399,-.

 

[Ringwraith69]

Currently, I have an A7, A7-ii and A7R-ii. I'm thinking of upgrading a little but don't necessarily need the latest model or features. I don't do video, so video-related features aren't relevant for me, too.

Currently there is a cashback action in The Netherlands that has me looking at either the A7-iii or the A7c. I've done my research, read loads of reviews, but I'm kind of torn here. The A7-iii has a form factor more or less identical to my other A7's and the better EVF. The A7c has the more compact body, the more versatile screen and last but not least the better AF.

Any thoughts or experiences that could help me make a choice between these two?

Strictly confined to a choice between an A7 III and an A7C, and knowing nothing about what you shoot, what you want to shoot, or how you most want to improve on your current cameras, to me the A7C's much smaller viewfinder (0.59x) would be too much of a loss relative to the A7 III's (0.78x) to make up for the A7C's better autofocus compared to the A7 III. An A7 III should already provide substantially better autofocus than any of your current cameras.

But stepping outside of those confines, I don't see much logic here at all. Why are you keeping an A7, an A7 II, and an A7R II? Have you seriously considered selling two or even all three of them, and using the extra money to fund something better than either an A7 III or an A7C? To me, in 'full size' bodies, an A7 IV would be considerably more appealing than an A7 III, and either an A7C II or A7CR (if you need resolution like your A7R II supplies) would be far more appealing than an A7C.

But that's to me. Again, I don't know what you shoot or where you think you're most needing an upgrade, I do feel confident, however, that in the context of buying new, "upgrading a little" is usually a terrible plan. Buy fewer cameras, keep them longer, and upgrade in bigger steps.

I use my A7's mainly for landscape, nature and concert photography, and a bit of macro work.

Just to be clear: I don't intend (and never stated I did) to keep all of my current A7's. The 'original' A7 will be sold or maybe I'll pass it on to my wife. I'll hold on to the A7R-ii, not sure yet about the faith of the A7-ii. Up to a certain point I can follow what you're saying. But slow upgrades and not rushing into the latest and greatest has worked very well for me so far, at least in keeping costs down a bit. And I do hang on to my cameras for quite a while. I bought my A7 in 2018, for instance.

With the current cashbacks and an extra discount from my local camera store, I can get the A7-iii for € 1.299. The A7-iv clocks in at € 2.299 with the cashback, no extra discount. So I have to wonder if the extra advantages of the IV are worth € 1.000 to me.

The main advantages of the IV over the II are (as far as I can tell):

• higher resolution sensor
• higher resolution EVF and higher resolution (fully articulating) LCD
• better video features and performance
• better AF performance, specifically in tracking subjects
• better UI/Menu structure

Only 2 of these would be deciders for me: the better AF and improved UI. The improved EVF and LCD are really nice to have, but no game changers. Same goes for the higher resolution. Nice to have, but for high res work the A7R-ii is still serving me very well. And video, well, I just literally never use it. Never have, never will, simply have no interest in it whatsoever. So are the AF and UI improvements worth an extra € 1.000 to me? Hmmm, honestly, probably not.

Then the III over the II:

• BSI vs. FSI sensor
• 693 vs. 117 AF points, better AF performance, specifically in tracking subjects
• higher FPS and bigger buffer
• better video features and performance
• better battery (life)

Except for (again) video, there are definite and for me relevant improvements in the III over the II. And right now they come at a relatively modest investment thanks to a total cashback and discount of € 400. Even though the III is starting to show distinct signs of it's age, it will be a noticeable step up from the II, especially in the AF performance which is where the II is mostly giving me, well, challenges.

As for the A7c, I',m very well aware of the drawbacks, especially where the EVF is concerned. The use case for that camera, if I'd go for that one, would however be totally different. I'd use it for city trips, street photography, hikes, etc. I have an a6400 for that now and like the form factor and the real time tracking AF, but the smaller sensor does have its limits in IQ, DOF, etc.

The A7c could be an interesting alternative for the a6400, not so much a replacement for the other A7's. And again, I get your reasoning about the A7c-ii or A7cr being better cameras. But again the price difference is considerable or even massive:

• A7c with € 200 cashback: € 1.519 (black) or € 1.549 (silver)
• A7c-ii (no cashback): € 2.398
• A7cr (no cashback): € 3.699

And I have to ask the same question. Are the extra improvements worth the considerable extra investment to me? Or would I be better off using the savings I make for spare batteries, a grip and/or other accessories? Tough call...

Where do you live?

The A7CR is 3.699,-, but in Germany the ordinary price for the A7c II is 2.079,-. An A7 IV is 1.800,- - 2.000,- new, the A7 III is 1.299,-. The A7c II with the 28-60 kit zoom is 2.399,-.

In The Netherlands. Prices here are quite a bit higher here than in Germany, unfortunately. And I do prefer to buy gear like cameras from local/regional physical stores where I can talk to staff for questions or if an issue arises.

 

[AshleyMC]

Currently, I have an A7, A7-ii and A7R-ii. I'm thinking of upgrading a little but don't necessarily need the latest model or features. I don't do video, so video-related features aren't relevant for me, too.

Currently there is a cashback action in The Netherlands that has me looking at either the A7-iii or the A7c. I've done my research, read loads of reviews, but I'm kind of torn here. The A7-iii has a form factor more or less identical to my other A7's and the better EVF. The A7c has the more compact body, the more versatile screen and last but not least the better AF.

I have a7 II, a7R II, a7C. Whereas the a7C is more up-to-date in many aspects, notably AF, the other two models are still good in their own charming ways.

At this time, if you like the a7 form factor, try to upgrade to a7 IV instead of a7 III.

On the other hand, if you wish to have a more compact, more agile camera to complement your current a7 II and a7R II, I highly recommend the a7C. Your note is highlighted above.

By the way, last summer, I roamed Spain and southern France with only this combo: a7C + Tamron 28–200. Simply wonderful.

 

[NAwlins Contrarian]

Currently, I have an A7, A7-ii and A7R-ii. I'm thinking of upgrading a little but don't necessarily need the latest model or features. I don't do video, so video-related features aren't relevant for me, too.

Currently there is a cashback action in The Netherlands that has me looking at either the A7-iii or the A7c. I've done my research, read loads of reviews, but I'm kind of torn here. The A7-iii has a form factor more or less identical to my other A7's and the better EVF. The A7c has the more compact body, the more versatile screen and last but not least the better AF.

Any thoughts or experiences that could help me make a choice between these two?

Strictly confined to a choice between an A7 III and an A7C, and knowing nothing about what you shoot, what you want to shoot, or how you most want to improve on your current cameras, to me the A7C's much smaller viewfinder (0.59x) would be too much of a loss relative to the A7 III's (0.78x) to make up for the A7C's better autofocus compared to the A7 III. An A7 III should already provide substantially better autofocus than any of your current cameras.

But stepping outside of those confines, I don't see much logic here at all. Why are you keeping an A7, an A7 II, and an A7R II? Have you seriously considered selling two or even all three of them, and using the extra money to fund something better than either an A7 III or an A7C? To me, in 'full size' bodies, an A7 IV would be considerably more appealing than an A7 III, and either an A7C II or A7CR (if you need resolution like your A7R II supplies) would be far more appealing than an A7C.

But that's to me. Again, I don't know what you shoot or where you think you're most needing an upgrade, I do feel confident, however, that in the context of buying new, "upgrading a little" is usually a terrible plan. Buy fewer cameras, keep them longer, and upgrade in bigger steps.

I use my A7's mainly for landscape, nature and concert photography, and a bit of macro work.

Okay, so two uses where autofocus is almost irrelevant (landscape and macro) and two uses where it may be anywhere from almost irrelevant to fairly important, depending on what you mean by "nature", and what type of concerts you photograph and how you photograph them. What makes sense for shooting flowers differs greatly from what makes sense for birds in flight. What makes sense for shooting violin recitals from a balcony differs greatly from what makes sense for punk rock concerts from a pit in front of the stage.

Just to be clear: I don't intend (and never stated I did) to keep all of my current A7's.

I think that makes sense. But above you did not say that you intended to sell any of your current cameras, and one has to wonder: why did you keep the A7 when you had the A7 II? And I'm skeptical that it makes much sense to keep an A7 II when you have an A7R II.

The 'original' A7 will be sold or maybe I'll pass it on to my wife. I'll hold on to the A7R-ii, not sure yet about the faith of the A7-ii. Up to a certain point I can follow what you're saying. But slow upgrades and not rushing into the latest and greatest has worked very well for me so far, at least in keeping costs down a bit.

I'm not suggesting you ever buy the latest and greatest. I am suggesting that, especially if you buy new, almost never buy a camera one or two generations newer than what you already have; instead, wait longer and buy a camera three or four generations newer. Conversely, if (for whatever reason) you really like to buy a camera one or two generations newer than what you already have, then I suggest you buy used.

With the current cashbacks and an extra discount from my local camera store, I can get the A7-iii for € 1.299. The A7-iv clocks in at € 2.299 with the cashback, no extra discount. So I have to wonder if the extra advantages of the IV are worth € 1.000 to me.

That probably depends on the importance to your uses of the A7 IV's better autofocus. See my comments above.

The main advantages of the IV over the II are (as far as I can tell):

• higher resolution sensor
• higher resolution EVF and higher resolution (fully articulating) LCD
• better video features and performance
• better AF performance, specifically in tracking subjects
• better UI/Menu structure

Only 2 of these would be deciders for me: the better AF and improved UI. The improved EVF and LCD are really nice to have, but no game changers. Same goes for the higher resolution. Nice to have, but for high res work the A7R-ii is still serving me very well. And video, well, I just literally never use it. Never have, never will, simply have no interest in it whatsoever. So are the AF and UI improvements worth an extra € 1.000 to me? Hmmm, honestly, probably not.

Then the III over the II:

• BSI vs. FSI sensor
• 693 vs. 117 AF points, better AF performance, specifically in tracking subjects
• higher FPS and bigger buffer
• better video features and performance
• better battery (life)

Except for (again) video, there are definite and for me relevant improvements in the III over the II. And right now they come at a relatively modest investment thanks to a total cashback and discount of € 400. Even though the III is starting to show distinct signs of it's age, it will be a noticeable step up from the II, especially in the AF performance which is where the II is mostly giving me, well, challenges.

As for the A7c, I',m very well aware of the drawbacks, especially where the EVF is concerned. The use case for that camera, if I'd go for that one, would however be totally different. I'd use it for city trips, street photography, hikes, etc. I have an a6400 for that now and like the form factor and the real time tracking AF, but the smaller sensor does have its limits in IQ, DOF, etc.

The A7c could be an interesting alternative for the a6400, not so much a replacement for the other A7's. And again, I get your reasoning about the A7c-ii or A7cr being better cameras. But again the price difference is considerable or even massive:

• A7c with € 200 cashback: € 1.519 (black) or € 1.549 (silver)
• A7c-ii (no cashback): € 2.398
• A7cr (no cashback): € 3.699

And I have to ask the same question. Are the extra improvements worth the considerable extra investment to me? Or would I be better off using the savings I make for spare batteries, a grip and/or other accessories? Tough call...

What follows are my personal opinions. I'm not you, and this is your decision. But, in my opinions: you are making this more complicated than necessary. The idea of you keeping more than one camera seems to have little justification. The best approach would be to sell all three of your current cameras, and use that money plus whatever else you can afford to buy the one best camera for you. That's probably not a new A7C. It may or may not be a new A7 III, depending on how important resolution higher than 24 MP is to you, and how important to you would be even greater autofocus improvements than an A7 III would provide. It may or may not be a new A7 IV, A7C II, or A7C R. It may be a new A7R IVa, or a used A7R IV.

Good luck.

 

[Adam-T]

I think that makes sense. But above you did not say that you intended to sell any of your current cameras, and one has to wonder: why did you keep the A7 when you had the A7 II?

use both and you`ll see why , the A7 is quite a lot smaller in real life use and it has a charm in almost a Fuji / film camera kinda way with its command dials and clanky shutter , you feel compelled to pick it up and use it (with the tiny 28-60 or a prime on especially) whereas the A7-II is simply an inferior camera to the R-II and all the Mk3 models which are cosmetically, size and handling wise pretty much the same - it`s even inferior to the Mk1 for DR for some reason .. I recently bought a Mk1 because it was £200 with only 4000 shots on for a compact work backup (couldn`t resist) but i`ve been using and enjoying it, and it even caused me to sell all my APS_C kit - whereas I`d never pickup an A7 Mk2 (or an R-II come to that) , I`d just use my RV .

I`d have loved the A7R Mk1 with its fantastic D810 sensor (only a hair behind the new 33mP A7-IV sensor for DR and noise) to have had PDAF and especially EFCS but it hasn`t and sadly they`re deal killers ..

And I'm skeptical that it makes much sense to keep an A7 II when you have an A7R II.

100% Agreed there

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