A6300 Missing Features - Any?

[Astrophotographer 10]

Perhaps they are leaving room for extra features in an A7000? A premium model over the A6300 like A7ii and A7rii?

Greg.

 

[Arizona Sunset]

Let's be real. Touch screens are a standard now.

They are on the NX1, GX8, PEN-F, E-M5 II, even the lauded D500. In other words, all flagship crop sensor cameras released in the past year have a touch screen.

Don't make excuses for Sony.

The A6300 is no doubt a nice camera, but they held back a lot, for some reason.

 

[tominhouston]

Just a general reply to those who were asking - According to the Sony web site the low light focus is improved to -1 EV

The a6000 was a remarkable camera especially for the price point - this one looks to be equally remarkable with the new features. If IBIS is important then maybe an A7 II should be on your list.

 

[rjjr]

Perhaps they are leaving room for extra features in an A7000? A premium model over the A6300 like A7ii and A7rii?

I thought the same thing when I saw no IBIS in the A6300. It makes me wonder if Sony is finished with this round of announcements or will there be more in the next several weeks?

 

[caravan]

There are no missing features.

 

[Euell]

Should I upgrade from the A6000? Here are my thoughts:

Many of us don't use the camera often for video, so the video improvements are of minor concern

The structural improvement of the body is not a major thing either, as the structural integrity of the A6000 has not created any problem.

The weather sealing is nice, but not necessary, since I use protection in the rain anyway.

Faster, more accurate and better low light AF is a good improvement, but it remains to be seen how much better and faster and more accurate.

Faster rapid shooting? Nah, the A6000 is fast enough

Better low light noise performance. Now, there is something really useful and, while I'm sure it is there, the press release doesn't say anything specific.

So, what's the verdict? As of today, I have three potential APSC camera buys in mind, of which the A6300 would be one possibility. Another is upgrading the Canon 7D to a 7D ii. And the third is acquiring a top flight pocket camera, such as the RX 100 iv or the Panasonic LX100. Probably only one of these will occur the first half of this year. Unless the A6300 offers much better low light performance than the A6000, it is unlikely to be my choice.

 

[Peter Foiles]

Let's be real. Touch screens are a standard now.

They are on the NX1, GX8, PEN-F, E-M5 II, even the lauded D500. In other words, all flagship crop sensor cameras released in the past year have a touch screen.

Don't make excuses for Sony.

The A6300 is no doubt a nice camera, but they held back a lot, for some reason.

The recently announced Fuji X-Pro 2 does not have a touch screen.

 

[Entropy512]

Perhaps they are leaving room for extra features in an A7000? A premium model over the A6300 like A7ii and A7rii?

I thought the same thing when I saw no IBIS in the A6300. It makes me wonder if Sony is finished with this round of announcements or will there be more in the next several weeks?

Yeah. We have about a month before the camera actually goes on sale, so I have around that much time to decide - A7II or A6300. Each has some big advantages over the other.

 

[virgil1612]

Just a general reply to those who were asking - According to the Sony web site the low light focus is improved to -1 EV

The a6000 was a remarkable camera especially for the price point - this one looks to be equally remarkable with the new features. If IBIS is important then maybe an A7 II should be on your list.

I found it, thanks for pointing that out. Nice to have at least a bit of an improvement.

 

[Entropy512]

Just a general reply to those who were asking - According to the Sony web site the low light focus is improved to -1 EV

The a6000 was a remarkable camera especially for the price point - this one looks to be equally remarkable with the new features. If IBIS is important then maybe an A7 II should be on your list.

I found it, thanks for pointing that out. Nice to have at least a bit of an improvement.

Yeah. It's too bad that we now have some tough decisions to make:

A7II: IBIS, FF, but no 4K and less capable AF. Also I'm fairly certain it doesn't do full-sensor readout for 1080p

A6300: Full-sensor readout for 4k video (is 1080p also full-sensor downscaled? Worst case one can downscale in post...), APS-C lens compatibility (beneficial if you like telephoto - but lack of IBIS really crippled telephoto options since most A-mount glass is unstabilized...)

 

[Sympa]

Many of us don't use the camera often for video, so the video improvements are of minor concern

Note that you can use the 4K video as a 30 FPS continuous burst mode with 8 megapixel resolution. Can be quite useful.

 

[sportyaccordy]

Just a general reply to those who were asking - According to the Sony web site the low light focus is improved to -1 EV

The a6000 was a remarkable camera especially for the price point - this one looks to be equally remarkable with the new features. If IBIS is important then maybe an A7 II should be on your list.

I found it, thanks for pointing that out. Nice to have at least a bit of an improvement.

Yeah. It's too bad that we now have some tough decisions to make:

A7II: IBIS, FF, but no 4K and less capable AF. Also I'm fairly certain it doesn't do full-sensor readout for 1080p

A6300: Full-sensor readout for 4k video (is 1080p also full-sensor downscaled? Worst case one can downscale in post...), APS-C lens compatibility (beneficial if you like telephoto - but lack of IBIS really crippled telephoto options since most A-mount glass is unstabilized...)

A7II has APS-C compatibility too, and I question the value of 4K with unstabilized lenses. Unless you plan on using 4K as a low res super high burst mode I am not seeing the value of it. Hand warmer in cold weather? :-D

 

[Franka T.L.]

it open up a debate and speculation : obviously Sony is moving into 4K, hybrid, and higher margin premium bodies, but Sony also know that FF and APS-C customers do not always cross pollinate. so are they planning yet another top end FF as well as another top end APS-C model in the E mount , and what will the A99 /A77-II replacement look like - food for thought indeed

 

[sportyaccordy]

it open up a debate and speculation

O God please no more.

 

[Entropy512]

Just a general reply to those who were asking - According to the Sony web site the low light focus is improved to -1 EV

The a6000 was a remarkable camera especially for the price point - this one looks to be equally remarkable with the new features. If IBIS is important then maybe an A7 II should be on your list.

I found it, thanks for pointing that out. Nice to have at least a bit of an improvement.

Yeah. It's too bad that we now have some tough decisions to make:

A7II: IBIS, FF, but no 4K and less capable AF. Also I'm fairly certain it doesn't do full-sensor readout for 1080p

A6300: Full-sensor readout for 4k video (is 1080p also full-sensor downscaled? Worst case one can downscale in post...), APS-C lens compatibility (beneficial if you like telephoto - but lack of IBIS really crippled telephoto options since most A-mount glass is unstabilized...)

A7II has APS-C compatibility too, and I question the value of 4K with unstabilized lenses. Unless you plan on using 4K as a low res super high burst mode I am not seeing the value of it. Hand warmer in cold weather? :-D

Most of my concert videography is done on a tripod.

Also, at least one article on "why 4k?" made a good point - You can't crop 1080p source (for example to implement stabilization in post) and get 1080p output. You can stabilize/crop/downscale 4k in post to get 1080p output. So at least for 1080p video there is SOME mitigation for lacking IBIS. Sadly, this isn't viable for stills.

A7II with an APS-C lens is only 10MP which is getting a bit on the low side.

There's also the question of whether the A6300 does full-sensor readout when recording 1080p - even if it doesn't, scaling down in post is viable. But the A7II most definitely is not doing full-sensor readout for 1080p.

 

[Potemkin_Photo]

The EM5 is brilliant with IBIS.

The a6000 video was shake and jerky at best without it.

I can't imagine the a6300 would be much better without it, especially at higher 4K resolutions.

I'm also "no IBIS no buy."

SONY can put out the a6500 with IBIS, extra dial, full mag body, and weather sealing, then I'll buy.

Or I might get the a6300 when it goes on firesale for $400 like its predecessor.

 

[woof woof]

Only real disappointment for me is tha max mechanical shutter speed of 1/4000 sec. Other than that a more compact 35mm f1.8 would tempt me.

 

[Mordi]

I don't care about touch screen.]

I don't care about video.

I am not in the market because it does not have IBIS.

 

[sportyaccordy]

The other question comes from the value of 4K just as a video resolution period. For photo editing and computer work- YES! For video on a screen you are going to be sitting >7' away from....?

I don't know if I am buying the crop thing either. You increase noise and aberrations that much more too. I think all of Sony's zooms have OSS- win win. No need to crop, just zoom and take advantage of your sensor.

Crisp 1080p is eye cuttingly sharp for video viewed normally.... I personally don't see the value of 4K video at the moment.

$1150 hurts too. Between this and the X-Pro 2 manufacturers are really doubling down on the early adopter tax.

 

[Arizona Sunset]

Let's be real. Touch screens are a standard now.

They are on the NX1, GX8, PEN-F, E-M5 II, even the lauded D500. In other words, all flagship crop sensor cameras released in the past year have a touch screen.

Don't make excuses for Sony.

The A6300 is no doubt a nice camera, but they held back a lot, for some reason.

The recently announced Fuji X-Pro 2 does not have a touch screen.

The X-Pro2 is a blip on the radar for APS-C sales.

They made a mistake excluding IBIS and 4k on that camera.