A little M43 game. Post a photo that would have been impossible with another camera system.

[Jon555]

Could be seen as cheating in a m43 forum :-D

Also all those Canon lenses are pre-AF.

Still good luck with the photography, can't object to people who go for it...

 

[neil holmes]

Has anybody else done stuff with M43 that would have been impossible for any reason with another camera system.

http://nigelvoak.blogspot.it/

As I mentioned earlier , THAT is a beautiful shot. Did you try scrolling to enhance the 3-D effect?

Although your question is a good one it is a bit one-sided and therefore attracts some competitive comment instead of delving into the subject.

A complementary question would be:

Has anybody else done stuff with another camera system that would have been impossible for any reason with a MFT camera system? Please illustrate with images.

That would bring out some good challenges for newbie shooters with MFT gear (like me) who populate this forum!

(And it would be a nice change from the opinions expressed about format comparisons.)

Tom

Shallow DOF shots. FF 400 F3.5 = 200 F1.7 w 43.

Not impossible but expensive and a lot harder to do this than the OPs

Canon FD 200 1.8 would be close enough (or EF 200 1.8).

For some thing really expensive, rare and odd not to mention very heavy (much easier to just buy the FF setup) 300 f2 AIS Nikon and speedbooster.

FF 85 mm f1.4 = 42,5 F.0.7 w m43

This one is easier various fast lenses with speedbooster.

FF 24 1.4 = 12 F 0.7 w m43

This is harder but I think still doable (maybe) .......fast 16mm lens like an Arriflex 1.2 and adapted with a speedbooster.

APS-C 200 F 4.0 = 150 2.8 MFT, (maybe possible with an adapter if the focus is fast)

There IS a four thirds 150 2.8 and adapters to use m4/3 with AF ETC.


Much harder than what the OP has stated since there are many combinations that would work and also there are DSLR and lens combinations lighter than his E-M5 and 12-35......many of these posts come across a bit like me saying I can run faster than anyone else on the planet......adding an exclaimer later.....except for those that can beat me!



Interesting exercise trying to find lens matches though.

I hope to get a 200 1.8 FD lens in a few months (if I can find one good enough and cheap enough as a retirement present to myself) mainly for my FF camera but also for my GX7.

 

[nzmacro]

Could be seen as cheating in a m43 forum :-D

Also all those Canon lenses are pre-AF.

Still good luck with the photography, can't object to people who go for it...

Well in that case there are a lot of cheats in here because quite a few do use adapted legacy lenses on m4/3, heck I did as well. What you seem to miss is that its just a box, there is nothing special about it, its the lenses that counts. If you want native m4/3 long fast tele lenses, good luck with that ;-) Until then, Canon and Nikkor lenses are simply superb on m4/3. Not sure why I would want AF and neither do the FF guys I shoot with.

I haven't seen one shot yet, that could not have been taken with any other camera. Looking through all my shots, there is not one that couldn't be taken with m4/3 either and I used that enough. Its a catch 22

All the best.

Danny.

 

[nzmacro]

A complementary question would be:

Has anybody else done stuff with another camera system that would have been impossible for any reason with a MFT camera system? Please illustrate with images.

That would bring out some good challenges for newbie shooters with MFT gear (like me) who populate this forum!

(And it would be a nice change from the opinions expressed about format comparisons.)

Tom

Looking at all my shots, there is not one image that couldn't be taken with m4/3. This seems to go both ways IMO.

All the best and a good point ;-)

Danny.

 

[Ian Stuart Forsyth]

Has anybody else done stuff with M43 that would have been impossible for any reason with another camera system.

http://nigelvoak.blogspot.it/

As I mentioned earlier , THAT is a beautiful shot. Did you try scrolling to enhance the 3-D effect?

Although your question is a good one it is a bit one-sided and therefore attracts some competitive comment instead of delving into the subject.

A complementary question would be:

Has anybody else done stuff with another camera system that would have been impossible for any reason with a MFT camera system? Please illustrate with images.

That would bring out some good challenges for newbie shooters with MFT gear (like me) who populate this forum!

(And it would be a nice change from the opinions expressed about format comparisons.)

Tom

Shallow DOF shots. FF 400 F3.5 = 200 F1.7 w 43.



FF 85 mm f1.4 = 42,5 F.0.7 w m43





FF 24 1.4 = 12 F 0.7 w m43



APS-C 200 F 4.0 = 150 2.8 MFT, (maybe possible with an adapter if the focus is fast)

I have seen this photograph ^^ show up once and a while and I have to stop and say I like it

nice work

ISF



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The Camera is only a tool, photography is deciding how to use it.
The hardest part about capturing wildlife is not the photographing portion; it’s getting them to sign a model release

 

[Scotsman]

More than one contrary poster here. This thread was fun.

 

[Ulric]

I live next to a lake which is slowly being taken over by reed. This dry and hot summer has lowered the water enough that it is possible to walk far out into what is usually the bottom of the lake. But you can't see a thing because of the reed.



So I made myself a monopod.













Using this, I can hold the camera high above my head and control it from my phone. And not only take pictures, but see where I'm going.

 

[Jon555]

Depends on how well you can focus them - a lot of BIF work is a right pain without AF, so adapted lenses are a pain. Also the adapters add another level of mechanical alignment which can take a big chunk off the optical quality (see http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/09/there-is-no-free-lunch-episode-763-lens-adapters ). Like I said I'm fine with people using adapted lenses, but it isn't the same as using a native lens with high speed AF.

 

[nzmacro]

Depends on how well you can focus them - a lot of BIF work is a right pain without AF, so adapted lenses are a pain. Also the adapters add another level of mechanical alignment which can take a big chunk off the optical quality (see http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/09/there-is-no-free-lunch-episode-763-lens-adapters ). Like I said I'm fine with people using adapted lenses, but it isn't the same as using a native lens with high speed AF.

Yep and as they say

Like a lot of laboratory testing, probably not a lot. Adapters couldn’t all stink or people wouldn’t use them. Like a lot of tests, you can detect a very real difference in the lab that doesn’t make much difference at all in the real world.

Bang on the money. I shoot with enough FF shooters to know what they miss and what I miss. Any idea of how often a 5D MK III or 1Dx misses or doesn't lock on, I do by all the swearing I hear ;-)

What sort of BIF work is a pain without AF ?? Swallows in flight, Kingfisher on the dive, head on shots, I'm not sure what you mean, because I don't really have an issue, then again, its all I know. Have you ever shot with MF long lenses with internal focus which is free and smooth. You've probably never had that ..... feel. Ever tried focus peaking with MF lenses, beautiful.

Anyway, all the best and you bet I'll carry on.

Danny.

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Birds, macro, motor sports.... http://www.birdsinaction.com

Just Kingfisher ..... http://www.flickr.com/photos/96361462@N06/

 

[jim stirling]

Depends on how well you can focus them - a lot of BIF work is a right pain without AF, so adapted lenses are a pain. Also the adapters add another level of mechanical alignment which can take a big chunk off the optical quality (see http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/09/there-is-no-free-lunch-episode-763-lens-adapters ). Like I said I'm fine with people using adapted lenses, but it isn't the same as using a native lens with high speed AF.

Yep and as they say

Like a lot of laboratory testing, probably not a lot. Adapters couldn’t all stink or people wouldn’t use them. Like a lot of tests, you can detect a very real difference in the lab that doesn’t make much difference at all in the real world.

Bang on the money. I shoot with enough FF shooters to know what they miss and what I miss. Any idea of how often a 5D MK III or 1Dx misses or doesn't lock on, I do by all the swearing I hear ;-)

What sort of BIF work is a pain without AF ?? Swallows in flight, Kingfisher on the dive, head on shots, I'm not sure what you mean, because I don't really have an issue, then again, its all I know. Have you ever shot with MF long lenses with internal focus which is free and smooth. You've probably never had that ..... feel. Ever tried focus peaking with MF lenses, beautiful.

Anyway, all the best and you bet I'll carry on.

Danny.

 

[nzmacro]

Hi Danny , you are looking at it the wrong BIF is too bloody hard with any camera , you want nice big fat flightless birds standing still , that would give us all a chance

Ha Jim, that I can do, but I love those little ones ;-) I reckon the EM1 or the GH4 would be what I would love to try Jim. I'm just hoping to see that Oly 300 F/4 get into a few hands in here when it comes out. Fingers crossed they don't kill it with the price is all. Zoom not so much, I do like the primes.

All the best Jim and maybe Elephants would be better

Danny.

 

[jim stirling]

Hi Danny , you are looking at it the wrong BIF is too bloody hard with any camera , you want nice big fat flightless birds standing still , that would give us all a chance

Ha Jim, that I can do, but I love those little ones ;-) I reckon the EM1 or the GH4 would be what I would love to try Jim. I'm just hoping to see that Oly 300 F/4 get into a few hands in here when it comes out. Fingers crossed they don't kill it with the price is all. Zoom not so much, I do like the primes.

All the best Jim and maybe Elephants would be better

Danny.

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Birds, macro, motor sports.... http://www.birdsinaction.com

Just Kingfisher ..... http://www.flickr.com/photos/96361462@N06/

Now, you are talking Elephants you say , I will keep my eye out next time I am out walking the dog They must be about I have a few mates who swear they saw pink Elephants { pink is a bonus the grey ones would blend in too much} .

I think that for sure BIF is an area were skill triumphs equipment every time, I have seen superb results from people using humble equipment and distinctly mediocre from folk using state of the art

Jim

 

[Jon555]

That's the trouble guessing when you have a pop at someone... like MF+BIF you can get a higher percentage of misses ;-)

I shot non-AF lenses for a long time, I used to have Canon FD kit for many years (strictly I still do). Used to get driven nuts trying to photograph Kingfishers... they're my nemesis.

 

[Aaron801]

A photo of me in front of the mirror with E-M1.

I could not take this photo with any other camera, because than it would not be E-M1 in my hands

Seriously, I don't think m4/3 strength lies in ability to take unique pictures impossible or difficult with other systems.

The combination of system / size / weight / capabilities is what makes this system unique or those who like it.


I like the dust particles new the flash...

I think we have a winner here! Totally impossible with any other camera!

 

[Hen3ry]

Then I put down the camera and danced frenetically in the light (but warm!) rain which had started to fall -- intoxicated by exhaustion, exhilaration, and the sheer joy of life!

Now, that is the photo we all want to see regardless of camera

Got a good reaction from a couple of thousand people who were watching! LOL!

Cheers, geoff

 

[Hen3ry]

Using the IBIS in my EM5, I was able to hand hold a 600mm equivalent lens in failing light to take this picture. (Lumix 100-300 at 300mm at 1/20)

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Has anybody else done stuff with M43 that would have been impossible for any reason with another camera system.

Not impossible. As I said in the subject I shot using a 1000mm equivalent (500mm catadioptric lens) handheld without IS (using an Oly E-330).

Show us a pic, show us a pic! We all need the inspiration!

Cheers, geoff

 

[Kevdog]

I don't have one uploaded yet, but at the Circus they were not allowing DSLRs in. But they didn't mind my EPL5 + Pany 12-35 HD lens. The low light and quick movement meant that normal P&S's would not get the shot, so a mirrorless with a fast lens that just sneaks in under the DSLR rules was needed. (Or one of the large sensor compact P&S cameras). So basically a limited set of cameras!

 

[Erik Magnuson]

I think we have a winner here! Totally impossible with any other camera!

Nope, dead easy. Just need a second camera, a remote trigger (or second shooter), and reverse the image.

 

[joeletx]

Could someone please explain to me the practice of pointing the flash to nowhere? I have seen people doing this all the time. I failed to see the logic. Is this for softening the flash harshness by pointing and/or bouncing the light to nowhere? If it is, what is the camera and/or flash settings?

 

[Jim Salvas]

Could someone please explain to me the practice of pointing the flash to nowhere? I have seen people doing this all the time. I failed to see the logic. Is this for softening the flash harshness by pointing and/or bouncing the light to nowhere? If it is, what is the camera and/or flash settings?

He is bouncing the flash off a wall. Sometimes a ceiling is used. It's a very basic technique for creating softer, directional light with an on-board flash.

With a TTL flash such as he is using, it's very easy to get the exposure correct.

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Jim Salvas
"You miss 100% of the shots you never take." - Wayne Gretzky