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Hi All,

I have the following problem: my 5D is set up to go into 'sleeping' mode after 1 minute I don't touch it. Fine and dandy, because when I need it to 'wake up', all I have to do is to half press the shutter.

The problem is that it will 'wake up' even if a different button is pressed, and what's most annoying, if a accidentally press one button on the back (you know, simply lugging it arounb), the LCD will go on, eating a good minute of battery, unless I see it before.

Is there any way of disabling the 'wake up from sleep (especially the LCD)' from any other button than the shutter?

Cheers,

Fede
 
I like the fact that any button wakes the camera. It helps if I need to make quick exposure adjustment before I shoot. However, I've never had the problem of the rear LCD firing up along with the rest of the camera. If you're not pressing either the "INFO" or play/review buttons, I can't imagine why the LCD would come on at all.

Perhaps your camera has a defect?

Meanwhile, if it bugs you that much: power switch.
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Garland Cary
 
1DsII LCD comes on if there are any warnings such as 'no card in slot 2, backup not available' etc. This comes on when it wakes up from any button press. Maybe it's the same on a 5D.
 
fuzzytalz said:
I like the fact that any button wakes the camera. It helps if I
need to make quick exposure adjustment before I shoot. However,
I've never had the problem of the rear LCD firing up along with the
rest of the camera. If you're not pressing either the "INFO" or
play/review buttons...
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That's the case, and I find it excedingly annoying.

In any case, since this is a NEW feature compared to the 20D and since it's 100% software based, I fail to see why can't I customise it to my liking. For almost £2000 a pop for the 5D, I am not impressed.

F
 
Federico Calboli said:
Keitht said:
Use the 'Off' switch as the startup time is next to zero anyway.
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I appreciate that, but it would take one extra movement compared to
simply pressing the shutter, i.e. the whole process would be slower.
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...quoting Goldmember: "Then there is no pleasing you."

Seriously, if you dig around you may be able to find a hack to enable only the shutter release. Alternately, you might try calling Canon to see if it can be done if you send you camera in to a service center. Nikon film cameras (other than the F5) wouldn't allow you to leave the leader out of the cartridge after rewind; however, it could be programmed thus if you sent your camera to a Nikon service center - common, apparently, but not very well publicized. Maybe Canon can do the same with your "wake up" feature?

Good luck.
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Garland Cary
 
it must be one heck of a camera! :)

Rich
 
I have always, from my D60 which used to eat batteries, to my 20D and now to my 5D, turned it Off. It only takes a nano second to turn it on and the wake up of the 5D (vs the D60) is minimal.

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Sheila

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Fede what I can't fathom is how your camera is turning on by being bumped against your body. I've had 2 Canon cameras dangling from my body for the past couple years now and not even my 10D would turn on by bouncing against my chest, side, rib, or otherwise. The buttons simply are too small to be pressed by anything other than a fingertip or smaller implement. What are you wearing that might be hitting the buttons and turning your camera on?

You also mentioned that inadvertent hits to the buttons while actually holding it (lugging it around) can turn it on and eat a minute of battery life "unless I see it before" . What do you do when you inadvertently turn it on? Do you immediately flick it off to not burn 1 minute of juice? Because if that's the case you might consider simply turning it off between shots like others have mentioned.

I fully understand wanting to be able to completely customize your gear, especially since modern technology tells us that it can be done. But Canon isn't stupid... they don't want us to posess the perfect camera. They are constantly endeavouring to give us the finest cameras and lenses they can... while being just shy of perfect. That way we keep hoping for the perfect camera that will never be delivered to us.
Federico Calboli said:
Hi All,

I have the following problem: my 5D is set up to go into 'sleeping'
mode after 1 minute I don't touch it. Fine and dandy, because when
I need it to 'wake up', all I have to do is to half press the
shutter.

The problem is that it will 'wake up' even if a different button is
pressed, and what's most annoying, if a accidentally press one
button on the back (you know, simply lugging it arounb), the LCD
will go on, eating a good minute of battery, unless I see it before.

Is there any way of disabling the 'wake up from sleep (especially
the LCD)' from any other button than the shutter?

Cheers,

Fede
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Agreed. The 20D did it right (only shutter wakes camera), but they goofed on the 5D. They must have thought they were improvong things: instead, I now have to use the silly switch again for the first time in years.

Michael
 
Guys, please take this seriously. I too have been noticing this and yes, it's a small decrease in useability, but it it real. I was about to post the same thing.

How is this small decrease a problem? Well, my camera does get pushed in the bag etc and I have noticed it is always on. I drag it around and invariably touch some button: the large roraty control more often than not. So leaving it ON is not an option: batery life is short enough when you use this camera seriously.

Leaving it OFF has already cost me a shot or two. You forget when a situation arises and boom, miss the shot as you funble with the switch.

The poster was quite right to raise this as an issue, Yes, a small issue, but why should paying an extra $2000 decrease usability in any way, however small?
 
mwillems said:
Guys, please take this seriously. I too have been noticing this and
yes, it's a small decrease in useability, but it it real. I was
about to post the same thing.

How is this small decrease a problem? Well, my camera does get
pushed in the bag etc and I have noticed it is always on. I drag it
around and invariably touch some button: the large roraty control
more often than not. So leaving it ON is not an option: batery life
is short enough when you use this camera seriously.

Leaving it OFF has already cost me a shot or two. You forget when a
situation arises and boom, miss the shot as you funble with the
switch.

The poster was quite right to raise this as an issue, Yes, a small
issue, but why should paying an extra $2000 decrease usability in
any way, however small?
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This way, even if it is awakened, it's only for a minute before powering down again.

I'm not marginalizing your problem with the camera. I am, however, stating that for me, and possibly a great many others, it's not a problem. Could there have been the option provided to program which controls awaken the camera? Sure. But the simple fact is that we don't have the option, and crying foul about it won't change that. I was being sincere in suggesting the OP contact Canon about the possibility of reprogramming his camera to fit his preference. Otherwise, short of hacking your firmware, there's nothing to be done except learn to live with it or replace it with a camera more to your liking.

I fail to see what more you realistically expect can be done.

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Garland Cary
 
Todd Meucci said:
Fede what I can't fathom is how your camera is turning on by being
bumped against your body. I've had 2 Canon cameras dangling from
my body for the past couple years now and not even my 10D would
turn on by bouncing against my chest, side, rib, or otherwise. The
buttons simply are too small to be pressed by anything other than a
fingertip or smaller implement. What are you wearing that might be
hitting the buttons and turning your camera on?
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The camera you mention, the 10D, and the one I had before, the 20D did not flick the LCD on unless they were woken from 'sleep' first by pushing the shutter. That was the only way. Then, whether it's my body being remarcably good at hitting the left buttons or the camera being bulky and easy to fiddle with I don't know.
Todd Meucci said:
You also mentioned that inadvertent hits to the buttons while
actually holding it (lugging it around) can turn it on and eat a
minute of battery life "unless I see it before" . What do you do
when you inadvertently turn it on? Do you immediately flick it off
to not burn 1 minute of juice? Because if that's the case you
might consider simply turning it off between shots like others have
mentioned.
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I don't care if the camera is on, what bugs me is the fact the the LCD goes ON, because:

1) the LCD eats more battery than the camera being simply on
2) Interferes with my focusing if I need it (I use * to focus, not the shutter)
Todd Meucci said:
I fully understand wanting to be able to completely customize your
gear, especially since modern technology tells us that it can be
done. But Canon isn't stupid... they don't want us to posess the
perfect camera.
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But Canon is stupid, because once the body is spent, I can sell the lenses and pass to Nikon or any other brand if I so desire. I apprecciate limitations due to cost of just simply optical/physical constraints, but here we are talking about a stupid software issue that should be really easy to fix. No constraints, just poor design and engineering.

F
 
With custom function 18 you can choose if the camera should go from playback to shooting mode with only the shutter button, or also with other buttons (see the manual).

But that's not what the OP meant.
 
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