1D: New user report (a bit long)

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I've been using a D30 since they first come out. Prior to that I was shooting film with a 1V and Elan II.

I've been generally happy with the image quality from the D30 but the focus has driven me crazy. It is great for scenics and such but baseball, soccer, etc.. it's a struggle.

So I finally bit the bullet and sprung for the 1D. Finally, a digital SLR which resembles my beloved 1V. It arrived Wednesday and Thursday I did a bit of testing after the batteries were charged. So far so good. Friday it was off to shoot something I've done with the D30... a dog show. This report is based on Friday's experiences. The lens choices for Friday were the EF28-135, EF70-200/2.8 and EF100-400. I used Color Matrix-1.

1. The D30 has given me fits at an indoor dog show. Indoor usually means the 550EX flash is mandatory. Lots of light and dark shape-less blobs (dogs). Lot's of focus hunting. Lot's of missed shots. Right off the bat the 1D focus was instantaneous. I have it optioned for 11 selectable focus points linked to spot meter. Even when using one of the outer focus point the focus rarely hunted. The venue was a livestock barn at a County Fairgrounds. Poor light, very poor.

2. My 1D shutter seems to have a hair trigger. I used single-frame all day and on several occasions the camera fired a couple shots on one depression. Perhaps I'm being too light-fingered. The camera is so quick that you barely notice the mirror black out and in a noisey room you can take a shot and almost not know it. I didn't have the same problem with the vertical grip. Perhaps my shutter button is acting up. Time will tell.

3. Batteries... one area where the 1D can't hold a candle to the D30. I managed to do one refresh before leaving for the show. Refreshing two fully-charged batteries takes a good 24 hours. The 1D has a four-level battery indicator. Full, Low, Exhausted soon and Recharge-now. :-) My first 1D battery went to low after 250 shots. However, this was 250 shots over a period of 5 hours using IS and lots of LCD review. Is this good ? Don't know. I swapped in the 2nd battery just to be safe and shot another 100 shots. Gone are the days of filling the Microdrive on a single set of batteries. :-)

4. Weight... knew this going in. It's a bit heavier than the D30 but not so that you REALLY notice. I was using a folding stool most of the day. Had I been carrying the 1D/100-400/550EX combo all day I'd probably be hurting.

5. The dog show gave me exposure fits. I really can't blame the 1D. The D30 usually did worse. It's very dark. I shot ISO 400-500 to keep a fair amount of ambient light. This allowed for 1/180 shutter... barely enough to eliminate movement blur.. especially with the 70-200. DOF with the 70-200 at 2.8 was razor shallow at these close distances. My last show had a bit more ambient light and life was great. This was photographers he* . I was tempted to shoot ISO 800 but don't have a good measure on how it stacks up yet. I ended-up with about 180 great keepers.

6. For the first time I noticed extreme red-eye this time. I was ready to blame the 1D (has to be the camera, right). I then started thinking that perhaps due to the extra dark conditions it caused everyone's pupils to be large and creating more red-eye ? Didn't have this problem last time.

7. The 1D doesn't estimate the Microdrive capacity well. It initially said 377 shots. I ended-up getting 500 with a bunch to spare. I don't remember the D30 being so far off.

8. The dual exposure meters were great! I could constantly monitor the ambient light and at the same time monitor my flash exposure. I found that neutral scenes could use about +.5 exp. comp. on the flash.

9. I don't remember reading in any of the reviews about the feature that displays the active focus point on the LCD review screen. That is a GREAT feature. I recommend turning it on if you haven't already.

10. These 1D images seem to accept a lot more sharpening than the D30. I found I could apply 130-150% of USM with no degradation. Never could use that much on D30. All images seem to need some. I do know that I was using WAY TOO SLOW of shutter speeds. I should have just increased the ISO to 640 or 800 and been done with it. IS or no IS you can't shoot 400mm at 1/60th. :-)

11. Dumb stuff department... I prefer the smooth finish of the 1V as opposed to the crinkle finish of the 1D. Nuff said.

12. Navigating the menus on the 1D is way different. I found though that after just 45 minutes of use I was navigating the manus on the fly like I've owned the camera for years. The re-learning curve is very short.

13. Since I was already a long time 1V user I didn't have to relearn all the buttons and dials. Changing the ISO on the fly is nearly as fast as the SET button on the D30. The ISO on the 1D is in stop increments... 200-250-320-400-, etc. Unlike the fixed 100-200-400-800- of the D30. I optioned mine for 1/2-stop steps. Why ? Dunno... just more comfortable for me.

14. I used AI Servo at the show quite a bit. While the 100-400 had a bit of trouble keeping up with a dog running towards me, the 70-200 worked quite nicely.

I can't get over the speed of this camera. It's almost two fast as in a noisey room you hardly notice that you've tripped the shutter. The overly sensitive shutter button has me a little concerned. It could be me being too light on the shutter. The camera is so fast it can take multiple shots in one-shot mode as fast as you can press the shutter. It is also very fast on power up and image review.

That's all for now. It was a good first test as it pushed the camera to it's AF limits due to the poor lighting. I'm anxious to test it under better conditions. I need to go now and clean the dog hair off of everything. I hope I didn't pick-up any dust... I was changing lenses constantly. At least no dogs licked the lens (happened last time). :-)

-- John
 
On how to bring those few issues into alignment.
  • As far as the shutter speed/blur issue is concerned, don't hesitate to use Shutter Priority set as around 1/160 to 1/200 of you are concerned about blur. I did this at a fast moving wedding reception and got 100% keepers (compared to the 50% of the D30's wedding I did last year. It is surprisingly reliable at capturing the images, and if necessary feel free to adjust the exposure compensation to the lens you are using. Indeed that 100-400L is NO speed demon and requires very good light to be anything near fast. The 70-200 would certainly be a better choice...
  • As far as the battery life is concerned, I've consulted with a number of folks on this and it seems a good average once they are properly conditioned (3 times refreshed/recharged) is about 450-500 shots using IS and review. If you are not ultimately getting at least 400 with the above than indeed keep refreshing it to condition the batteries further.
Definetly use a monopod next time to keep that long term weight off of your shoulders. You'll appreciate it I'm sure. I shot a wedding over a course of 10 hours strictly hand held with a 28-70 2.8L (a heavy lens to begin with) and suffered no ill effects. The extra balance and weight of the 1D affords not only sharper handheld images but I find it to feel more stable in my hands. Enjoy.....you have only just begun to exploit what it can do....
 
On how to bring those few issues into alignment.
  • As far as the shutter speed/blur issue is concerned, don't
hesitate to use Shutter Priority set as around 1/160 to 1/200 of
you are concerned about blur. I did this at a fast moving wedding
reception and got 100% keepers (compared to the 50% of the D30's
wedding I did last year. It is surprisingly reliable at capturing
the images, and if necessary feel free to adjust the exposure
compensation to the lens you are using. Indeed that 100-400L is NO
speed demon and requires very good light to be anything near fast.
The 70-200 would certainly be a better choice...
That's exactly what I ended-up doing. I used Tv and set it for around 1/180. This gave me an ambient light of around -1.5 to -2 stops which didn't look too bad in the final photos. On the situations where the dogs were standing stationary I used the 100-400 for good tight shots. When I needed to track the owner running around the ring I switched to the 70-200 as I needed the extra speed.
  • As far as the battery life is concerned, I've consulted with a
number of folks on this and it seems a good average once they are
properly conditioned (3 times refreshed/recharged) is about 450-500
shots using IS and review. If you are not ultimately getting at
least 400 with the above than indeed keep refreshing it to
condition the batteries further.
Agreed. Actually I didn't think this was too bad for rushing out the door only after a single refresh cycle.
Definetly use a monopod next time to keep that long term weight off
of your shoulders. You'll appreciate it I'm sure. I shot a wedding
over a course of 10 hours strictly hand held with a 28-70 2.8L (a
heavy lens to begin with) and suffered no ill effects. The extra
balance and weight of the 1D affords not only sharper handheld
images but I find it to feel more stable in my hands. Enjoy.....you
have only just begun to exploit what it can do....
Also agree. Normally I would have used the monopod. In fact, I had it in the car just in case. This event had no seating so everyone was on self-providing folding chairs surrounding the show rings. I was able to stake-out a good spot and sit with the camera resting in my lap until the action started. I was only shooting specific prople/dogs so it wasn't like I had to cover the entire event all day long.
 
John,

I am presently concidering the 1d for my primary camera and using my D-30 as a backup. While I would prefer to be able to wait for a 1ds or whatever for portrait work, the number of weddings I have coming up leaves me with no option but to buy now. I do mostly portrait, wedding and studio shots but occasionally have the event type jobs. My major concern about the 1d is the smoothness of the CCD to that of the D-30 Cmos sensor. Can you give me any idea of how it compares to the film like image quality of the D-30? Thanks for your input.

Roy
On how to bring those few issues into alignment.
  • As far as the shutter speed/blur issue is concerned, don't
hesitate to use Shutter Priority set as around 1/160 to 1/200 of
you are concerned about blur. I did this at a fast moving wedding
reception and got 100% keepers (compared to the 50% of the D30's
wedding I did last year. It is surprisingly reliable at capturing
the images, and if necessary feel free to adjust the exposure
compensation to the lens you are using. Indeed that 100-400L is NO
speed demon and requires very good light to be anything near fast.
The 70-200 would certainly be a better choice...
That's exactly what I ended-up doing. I used Tv and set it for
around 1/180. This gave me an ambient light of around -1.5 to -2
stops which didn't look too bad in the final photos. On the
situations where the dogs were standing stationary I used the
100-400 for good tight shots. When I needed to track the owner
running around the ring I switched to the 70-200 as I needed the
extra speed.
  • As far as the battery life is concerned, I've consulted with a
number of folks on this and it seems a good average once they are
properly conditioned (3 times refreshed/recharged) is about 450-500
shots using IS and review. If you are not ultimately getting at
least 400 with the above than indeed keep refreshing it to
condition the batteries further.
Agreed. Actually I didn't think this was too bad for rushing out
the door only after a single refresh cycle.
Definetly use a monopod next time to keep that long term weight off
of your shoulders. You'll appreciate it I'm sure. I shot a wedding
over a course of 10 hours strictly hand held with a 28-70 2.8L (a
heavy lens to begin with) and suffered no ill effects. The extra
balance and weight of the 1D affords not only sharper handheld
images but I find it to feel more stable in my hands. Enjoy.....you
have only just begun to exploit what it can do....
Also agree. Normally I would have used the monopod. In fact, I had
it in the car just in case. This event had no seating so everyone
was on self-providing folding chairs surrounding the show rings. I
was able to stake-out a good spot and sit with the camera resting
in my lap until the action started. I was only shooting specific
prople/dogs so it wasn't like I had to cover the entire event all
day long.
 
John,

Thanks for taking the time to post your experiences. Its very helpful to me.

lloyd
 
Here I am, happily clicking along with my D30, and guys like YOU come along, making me drool over a 1D. I hope you're happy! Good report BTW
olding stool most
 
2. My 1D shutter seems to have a hair trigger. I used single-frame
all day and on several occasions the camera fired a couple shots on
one depression. Perhaps I'm being too light-fingered. The camera is
so quick that you barely notice the mirror black out and in a
noisey room you can take a shot and almost not know it. I didn't
have the same problem with the vertical grip. Perhaps my shutter
button is acting up. Time will tell.

-- John
I noticed the double shot on a single push three times with my new 1D... all three times it happened it was the first shot after I turned the camera on. After that it would shoot dozens of shots in the same conditions with no doubles. So there's probably nothing wrong with your trigger finger...
 
that the current 1D WILL meet your wedding needs. I have become more entrenched in the Wedding Photographer thing lately and have found it to be a complete change for me as now I am getting virtually 100% keepers from the portraits right down to the reception. It is as if the camera can do no wrong (and indeed it is the photographer that is the weak link in this case). The speed and versatility is without boundries, so I am sure you will find it very liberating. I shoot the formal portraits in RAW, do my conversions with Fred Miranda's LPBatch conversiona and his ICC profile in Matrix 4, and the rest of the wedding in Large Jpeg Matrix 1. The thing that astounded me is that in shooting an entire event from 11am to 8pm I never used anything but AWB and the white balance was RIGHT ON the whole time. I certainly did not expect it, but have heard from other 1D owners that they to were surprised at it's accuracy and reliability. Give one a try....you surely WON"T regret it....
Roy
On how to bring those few issues into alignment.
  • As far as the shutter speed/blur issue is concerned, don't
hesitate to use Shutter Priority set as around 1/160 to 1/200 of
you are concerned about blur. I did this at a fast moving wedding
reception and got 100% keepers (compared to the 50% of the D30's
wedding I did last year. It is surprisingly reliable at capturing
the images, and if necessary feel free to adjust the exposure
compensation to the lens you are using. Indeed that 100-400L is NO
speed demon and requires very good light to be anything near fast.
The 70-200 would certainly be a better choice...
That's exactly what I ended-up doing. I used Tv and set it for
around 1/180. This gave me an ambient light of around -1.5 to -2
stops which didn't look too bad in the final photos. On the
situations where the dogs were standing stationary I used the
100-400 for good tight shots. When I needed to track the owner
running around the ring I switched to the 70-200 as I needed the
extra speed.
  • As far as the battery life is concerned, I've consulted with a
number of folks on this and it seems a good average once they are
properly conditioned (3 times refreshed/recharged) is about 450-500
shots using IS and review. If you are not ultimately getting at
least 400 with the above than indeed keep refreshing it to
condition the batteries further.
Agreed. Actually I didn't think this was too bad for rushing out
the door only after a single refresh cycle.
Definetly use a monopod next time to keep that long term weight off
of your shoulders. You'll appreciate it I'm sure. I shot a wedding
over a course of 10 hours strictly hand held with a 28-70 2.8L (a
heavy lens to begin with) and suffered no ill effects. The extra
balance and weight of the 1D affords not only sharper handheld
images but I find it to feel more stable in my hands. Enjoy.....you
have only just begun to exploit what it can do....
Also agree. Normally I would have used the monopod. In fact, I had
it in the car just in case. This event had no seating so everyone
was on self-providing folding chairs surrounding the show rings. I
was able to stake-out a good spot and sit with the camera resting
in my lap until the action started. I was only shooting specific
prople/dogs so it wasn't like I had to cover the entire event all
day long.
 
Are you certain you were in single-shot drive mode?
  • DL
I noticed the double shot on a single push three times with my new
1D... all three times it happened it was the first shot after I
turned the camera on. After that it would shoot dozens of shots in
the same conditions with no doubles. So there's probably nothing
wrong with your trigger finger...
 
Just wanted to say I shot my first wedding a week last Saturday using my 1D and am delighted with the results.

Working at a camera dealers during the week, I've had a good chance to road teast a D60, and whilst the picture quality is great, it's just too damned slow at writing RAW files.

By the way, battery life for me is usually around 350-400 shots before it waves a white flag, and whilst I haven't noticed the double shot problem as you and Gordon have, it's probably because the beast is eager to go after you switch it on... Still, the speed is mighty handy when it coes to grabbing the perfect confetti shot.

There's a lot of speculation on this board about what Canon will release next, but for me at least, the 1D will last me for a good few years (hopefully), and as I rarely go above 16"x12" prints, the resolution is more than ample.

Cheers

Martin

P.S. I've handled a lot of cameras in my job, and I don't think I've ever used a camera that is built this solidly... certainly inspires confidence!
 
No, I know the same thing happens to me and not just the first shots
after a battery change. Maybe there is some bounce at the bottom?
  • Al
  • DL
I noticed the double shot on a single push three times with my new
1D... all three times it happened it was the first shot after I
turned the camera on. After that it would shoot dozens of shots in
the same conditions with no doubles. So there's probably nothing
wrong with your trigger finger...
--
automatic
 
Absolutely... I was in single shot the entire day.
  • DL
I noticed the double shot on a single push three times with my new
1D... all three times it happened it was the first shot after I
turned the camera on. After that it would shoot dozens of shots in
the same conditions with no doubles. So there's probably nothing
wrong with your trigger finger...
 
7. The 1D doesn't estimate the Microdrive capacity well. It
initially said 377 shots. I ended-up getting 500 with a bunch to
spare. I don't remember the D30 being so far off.
Neither does D30! I have once shot over 300 in a day, which is well over the number shown on D30 with a formatted MD. One explaination is different photographs are of different size. The number reported by the camera is an estimate only.
12. Navigating the menus on the 1D is way different. I found
though that after just 45 minutes of use I was navigating the manus
on the fly like I've owned the camera for years. The re-learning
curve is very short.
Frankly, I don't have a 1D. I have played it around for 30 minutes in a computer expo. When I first try the menu, I am amazed that the navigating the menu requires 2-buttons! Once I figure it out, it works smoothly. Frankly, most commonly-used functions are available on the buttons.

I shoot nature mostly and I am not sure if I need a 1D. :)

Thanks for the reports.

--
'Most Lenses are Better Than Most Photographers' - Michael H. Reichmann
--
http://www.pbase.com/griffin/
 
I believe I've already echoed the sentiments you mentioned. I did a wedding the 1st of June, the first one with my 1D and as you say, the confidence level is 100% to the point where you go out and get down right creative on the fly. I did a high speed sequence shot of the "throwing of the bouquet and garter". The client was thrilled with it and the family got such a kick seeing it on a slide show how it changed position in mid air and then finally was grabbed inches from the ground from enthusiastic recipients. You just can't beat this monster for speed and accuracy. I too don't exceed 13x19's so it's a no brainer for me.....
Just wanted to say I shot my first wedding a week last Saturday
using my 1D and am delighted with the results.

Working at a camera dealers during the week, I've had a good chance
to road teast a D60, and whilst the picture quality is great, it's
just too damned slow at writing RAW files.

By the way, battery life for me is usually around 350-400 shots
before it waves a white flag, and whilst I haven't noticed the
double shot problem as you and Gordon have, it's probably because
the beast is eager to go after you switch it on... Still, the speed
is mighty handy when it coes to grabbing the perfect confetti shot.

There's a lot of speculation on this board about what Canon will
release next, but for me at least, the 1D will last me for a good
few years (hopefully), and as I rarely go above 16"x12" prints, the
resolution is more than ample.

Cheers

Martin

P.S. I've handled a lot of cameras in my job, and I don't think
I've ever used a camera that is built this solidly... certainly
inspires confidence!
 
7. The 1D doesn't estimate the Microdrive capacity well. It
initially said 377 shots. I ended-up getting 500 with a bunch to
spare. I don't remember the D30 being so far off.
Neither does D30! I have once shot over 300 in a day, which is well
over the number shown on D30 with a formatted MD. One explaination
is different photographs are of different size. The number reported
by the camera is an estimate only.
Of course this number is only an estimate. JPEG and RAW are compressed. The compression achieved depends very much on the contents of the photo. The camera cannot foresee the photo that you are going to take. It can only estimate.

Regards,

K. Tse
 

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