Sony A7R V + Tamron 50-400mm - Match made in heaven

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Hi all,

I have long chased the balance of having enough flexibility in my kit for whatever I want to shoot when I'm out exploring vs. size, weight, and ease of carry. To that end, I have always struggled with a longer zoom on full frame, understanding that these lenses are typically large and heavy. I've owned several over the years, including the excellent Sony G 200-600mm, but they ended up staying at home when I went on small hikes, etc, just due to the overall difficulty of fitting them easily in a shoulder bag or otherwise and the fact that I'd have to change lenses throughout the hike depending on what situation I was in. After trying several lenses, I honestly really considered buying a second m43 camera as a dedicated long-zoom setup - something that would have likely only added to difficulty in making decisions on what to bring as leaving the house to go somewhere.

Enter the Tamron 50-400. Not only is it a massive size reduction over the 200-600, but smaller than the similar Sigma and Sony 100-400's, while having a larger and more useful overall focal range:

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Needless to say, i was immediately interested and purchased one after reading several positive reviews. I was at that time shooting with a Sony A7R IV, and will admit that my first experiences with the lens were not universally positive. While pics were really nice in the 50-200mm range, I found it very difficult to get pin sharp images at the long end of the lens shooting handheld (I never use a tripod). An opportunity then came up to upgrade to the A7R V for a reasonable discount and I jumped on it, and my level of enjoyment with the lens has shot up substantially - the difference in IBIS systems between the cameras being the likely cause. I've always seen the high resolution of the A7R series as a sort of cheat-code in efforts to reduce my overall gear footprint - I crop heavily to achieve tighter 'zooms' on most of my shots and am still very pleased with the results, and this camera + lens setup really opens up opportunities to do this. With the resolution of the A7R and improved IBIS, the Tamron can provide results from this at 50mm:

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Sony A7RV + Tamron 50-400, shot at 50mm

To this at 400mm, cropped in further but to me, still very usable:

A7R V + Tamron 50-400, shot at 400, cropped in further
A7R V + Tamron 50-400, shot at 400, cropped in further

At this range, the usability of most of the photos I took were more dependent on the influence of heat haze than on any limitations of the camera + lens combo itself.

One other thing to note is the addition of focus stacking to the A7R V and the use of the 50-400 as a stand-in for a dedicated macro lens. I would never call myself a macro photographer, but its fun to get up and personal on items - I'm looking forward to testing out focus stacking with this lens, where some previous playing around (using the A7R IV) has shown it can take some pretty nice close-ups:

A7R IV + Tamron 50-400, shot at ~150mm, lightroom noise reduction applied
A7R IV + Tamron 50-400, shot at ~150mm, lightroom noise reduction applied

Anyways, just thought I'd share some experiences. To me, as someone that really likes to travel light and resists changing lenses while out on hikes, etc, the A7R V + Tamron 50-400 has emerged as my ideal kit.

Anyone else shooting this setup, or have a different ideal hiking kit they've landed on?

Cheers.
 
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I have been using the Sony 70-200 GM II and 2x extender when need for photographing landscape, wildlife, birds and BIF. On my Sony A7RV I had the option of 70-200mm zoom and 300mm equivalent with the APSC crop. Adding the 2x extender I then have 140-400mm and 600mm equivalent with the APSC crop. I found switching to the extender and back again depending on the range I need was certainly not convenient and in dusty environments not recommended.
I searched for alternatives and found the lightest and smallest choice was the Tamron 50-400. Since the new update (version 4.0), the lens is very sharp throughout its range especially while zooming and when using APSC crop mode (simple push of a button) I have 600mm equivalent. Total weight including the A7RVis only 1,878g.

I also have the Sony A6700 and when I use this lens with the Tamron I automatically have the equivalent 75-600mm range and it’s lighter at 1648g total including the camera.

Together with my Tamron 20-40 I now have what I consider the best two body two lens kit for almost all my intended shooting scenarios. I understand the lighting limitations of this setup but I always have the Sony to deal with those situations.



2 kit options with 2 lenses:  Tamron 50-400 & Tamron 20-40  and 2 bodies Sony A7RV & A6700
2 kit options with 2 lenses: Tamron 50-400 & Tamron 20-40 and 2 bodies Sony A7RV & A6700
 
Anyone else shooting this setup, or have a different ideal hiking kit they've landed on?

Cheers.
I prioritize light weight just a bit more, therefore use a slimmer version of your kit: A7CR and Tamron 70-300. I don't mind changing lenses and so add 15mm and 40mm primes.

I tried the 50-400 and found it lacking at 400mm. May have been a bad copy. Too big/heavy for my sort of hiking.
 
Not sure I'd take my 50-400 hiking per se, but I would definitely take it if I'm exploring new outdoor/open spaces cause of it's versatile range. The 50mm start point means I can complement it with just about anything, most of the time I'd go with the 17-50 but I could just as well opt for a wide prime or two. I haven't really struggled using it on my A7R IV but I've not shot a lot of action with it. I'm really pleased with it, my one and only tele zoom for the foreseeable future.

If I don't have the 50-400 on me it's because I'm basically happy with a 75 or 135 as my tele. I need to see how feasible it is to cram the 50-400 in my 10L Sling... I've mostly used it with my 20L backpack, I mount the camera on a PD Capture and I let it hang up front without any issue even after walking for hours. I got iShoot's collar for it, has a couple sus reviews on Amazon but I find the half-turn (or single turn I forget, it's a short throw) knob to tighten very useful.

To open that collar fully you actually pull the knob against a string and then pull it apart, rather than needing to turn it endlessly. This makes it much quicker to adjust and harder for it to come apart. I haven't had it scratch my lens like some reviewers suggest, but I don't tend to turn the lens while it and the collar are mounted to a tripod/monopod. I'll usually turn it into position beforehand, and I even use it as a handle by turning it up, the foot is just long enough.

It doesn't have a strap lug like the Haoge collar but I added some by putting a PD Slim Plate on the top part of the foot where it doesn't interfere with anything. The USB customization options on the lens are seriously underrated too.
 
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Anyone else shooting this setup, or have a different ideal hiking kit they've landed on?

Cheers.
I prioritize light weight just a bit more, therefore use a slimmer version of your kit: A7CR and Tamron 70-300. I don't mind changing lenses and so add 15mm and 40mm primes.

I tried the 50-400 and found it lacking at 400mm. May have been a bad copy. Too big/heavy for my sort of hiking.
u surprise me. By all accounts I have seen, the 70-300 is the softer lens
 
Anyone else shooting this setup, or have a different ideal hiking kit they've landed on?

Cheers.
I prioritize light weight just a bit more, therefore use a slimmer version of your kit: A7CR and Tamron 70-300. I don't mind changing lenses and so add 15mm and 40mm primes.

I tried the 50-400 and found it lacking at 400mm. May have been a bad copy. Too big/heavy for my sort of hiking.
u surprise me. By all accounts I have seen, the 70-300 is the softer lens
I know, right?!

May be a fluke. 1) My 70-300 is exceptionally decent and 2) When I tried the 50-400 my technique was flawed and 3) At 400mm atmospheric distortions and turbulence affected the outcome negatively.

In any case, I decided the 70-300 is enuff for me. Even now with the high-res A7CR it does well and still is, as far as I know, the lightest Sony FF zoom ending in 300.
 
I use a Tamron 50-400mm with my A7R5 and I'm very happy with it. It was recommended to me on here actually. I was asking questions about lenses when I was considering buying the camera.
 
I'm having a hard time stopping myself from buying the Tamron 50-400mm for my a6700. 3 things are stopping me from doing so: deciding between that and the 100-400mm GM (in case I save up for an A1 or A9 and need the higher framerate), the possibility of switching to Canon when the R7 II comes out, and the fact that despite the added features it's too similar to my 70-350mm. I also kinda want the Sigma 500mm f5.6, but that possibility hinges on the Canon thing...and the fact that it's $3000.
 
I understand your dilemma.

I have selected the Tamron 50-400mm lens for both my Sony A6700 and Sony A7RV. I i=use it as a part of my kit for landscape, bird, insect, wildlife and macro photography. I have extensively researched, read, and watched everything that I could find concerning this lens before making my decision. (I already own the Sony 70-200 GM II & 2x extender). The reviews by Dustin Abbott really helped me to decide. He has made 4 reviews of the Tamron 50-400mm lens. In his definitive review he discusses vignetting and other problems.

Written Review:

Tamron 50-400mm F4.5-6.3 VC VXD Review (A067)

Quick YouTube review:


Definitive YouTube review:


Update info YouTube review:

 
I understand your dilemma.

I have selected the Tamron 50-400mm lens for both my Sony A6700 and Sony A7RV. I i=use it as a part of my kit for landscape, bird, insect, wildlife and macro photography. I have extensively researched, read, and watched everything that I could find concerning this lens before making my decision. (I already own the Sony 70-200 GM II & 2x extender). The reviews by Dustin Abbott really helped me to decide. He has made 4 reviews of the Tamron 50-400mm lens. In his definitive review he discusses vignetting and other problems.

Written Review:

Tamron 50-400mm F4.5-6.3 VC VXD Review (A067)

Quick YouTube review:


Definitive YouTube review:


Update info YouTube review:

I've probably watched every review of the lens, at least the ones in English. Apart from the obvious advantage of the extended zoom (both ends), 2 features really stand out to me. For planespotting I like that you can set the function button to a focus distance limiter, so it'll ignore the dang fence I'm occasionally trying to shoot through. The other is the half-macro. If I'm walking around taking pics of critters, some are tiny and I'd love to get close up, much closer than my 70-350mm lets me.

I'd love to have this lens, keep my 70-350mm, get the 100-400mm GM, etc. The Sigma 500mm 5.6 sounds like it'd be a blast on the a6700. But I just can afford that much GAS. It sounds insane, but I'd love to save up for an A1 II (by the time I have that much the III might be out anyway). Kinda overkill just for airshows/planespotting, wildlife, and very little else. I could do it...it'd probably take me a year or so of saving and living more frugally. Even then it's going to be hard not to plunk down the cash for the 50-400mm to use on my a6700, It'd be a setback in my savings, but it might be worth it just to have in the meantime.

I'll be honest - if this lens was available on Canon, I'd betray my commitment to Sony in an instant. It'd fill the cavernous gap between the low end RF 100-400mm and the expensive 100-500mm in their lens lineup. Stick that on the R7 II (assuming it has all the features I want) and wouldn't give a second thought about the A1 II.
 
Nice 'budget' lens !

I used to have Sony FE 100-400 GM, heavier (although still quite manageable), bigger and more expensive, but compatible to TCs. I had carried the lens to many trips for both landscape and wildlife, such as in Antarctica Cruise trip . Sold it as then I also owned FE 200-600 G then. But later also sold 200-600 G as it's a bit too bulky, and replaced with 300 GM (with TCs). I missed the lens that is versatile but reluctant to buy another such (mid) tele zoom, in addition 400mm is not long enough in wildlife. Instead I plan to get one between Sigma 20-200 and Tamron 25-200 (to be released soon). I could live in the gap between 200mm and 300mm or 420mm (with 1.4x attached 300 GM). I usually still carry 2 bodies as no zoom lens can meet my needs in entire FL range (14mm from 14 GM to 600mm from 300GM+2.0x TC) in various trips and tasks.

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