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[Swerky]

An official teaser has been released revealing a front outline of the X-E5. There’s a lever on the front similar to the one found on X100 cameras. I assume this will be used to cycle through the film sims?

Fujifilm X-E5 and XF23/2.8 Official Teaser: "An Essential X Series Rangefinder-Style Camera is Coming" - Fuji Rumors

Fujifilm has just released a teaser video (see below) for the upcoming Fujifilm X-E5, set to be officially announced on June 12 at 5AM New York time. In the video, Fujifilm says: there is another rangefinder-style series that’s just as essential when telling the story of our X series history I...

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[Jeff Biscuits]

Interesting. I don’t think that’s going to be what the rumours about a film sim dial were pointing to. I strongly suspect it will behave (and be configurable) similarly to the one on the 100RF. (For what it’s worth, I do like it: I use mine mainly to toggle between EVF and LCD.)

It seems that there are no additional dials concentric with either the shutter speed or exposure compensation dial. What I do see is that the hotshoe has moved slightly off-axis towards the shutter speed dial, and there is a very slight discontinuity in the reflected light to the right of that (looking from the front). So I now think this is where the film sim dial is situated: on the top plate between the hotshoe and EVF.

The design language seems to be very strongly following the 100RF: very angular in form.

 

[Swerky]

Interesting. I don’t think that’s going to be what the rumours about a film sim dial were pointing to. I strongly suspect it will behave (and be configurable) similarly to the one on the 100RF. (For what it’s worth, I do like it: I use mine mainly to toggle between EVF and LCD.)

It seems that there are no additional dials concentric with either the shutter speed or exposure compensation dial. What I do see is that the hotshoe has moved slightly off-axis towards the shutter speed dial, and there is a very slight discontinuity in the reflected light to the right of that (looking from the front). So I now think this is where the film sim dial is situated: on the top plate between the hotshoe and EVF.

The design language seems to be very strongly following the 100RF: very angular in form.

Good observation. The hot shoe mount has indeed moved to the right side when comparing with the X-E4. Perhaps there might be something on the left of it. Can’t be sure. Time will tell. Yes the lever in this case could be used for something else and programmable.

 

[RobRoy22]

In that thread there was a discussion about the ‘M’ reduced MP setting for 40MP sensor on X-T5. For clarity, this is 20MP.

 

[Truman Prevatt]

Interesting. I don’t think that’s going to be what the rumours about a film sim dial were pointing to. I strongly suspect it will behave (and be configurable) similarly to the one on the 100RF. (For what it’s worth, I do like it: I use mine mainly to toggle between EVF and LCD.)

One of my frustrations with the Fuji UI was the view mode button and the merry go round of having to cycle through it. My Z8, pull open the LCD, the it switches to the LCD and on top of that I can touch the screen to focus and take the shot.

While Fuji won't do that, at least take the shot, I find the lever on the 100RF to be a breath of fresh air. It makes the Fuji view mode cycle tolerable. It also allows a lot of flexibility. There are four settable actions on the lever itself and one on the center button, which my center button is set to face/eye detection.

I wasn't sure about the lever when I opened the box, but quickly fell in love with it.

 

[Jeff Biscuits]

Interesting. I don’t think that’s going to be what the rumours about a film sim dial were pointing to. I strongly suspect it will behave (and be configurable) similarly to the one on the 100RF. (For what it’s worth, I do like it: I use mine mainly to toggle between EVF and LCD.)

One of my frustrations with the Fuji UI was the view mode button and the merry go round of having to cycle through it.

Yes—always hated the proliferation of useless view modes. Wouldn’t have been so bad if there was an equal number of button presses between the two modes I wanted to use, but it was always three and two, and I could never remember which direction was which.

I wish they would grasp that there are other settings where it‘s good to offer numerous options for different preferences, but where that range of options inevitably means it’s important for individual users to be able to narrow them down to only to the ones they use.

They’ve figured this out with view modes and “AF all” modes, which is great, but they’re going the other way with aspect ratios and film sims, because by putting them on marked dials there’s no way even a firmware change could narrow the choices (well, to be fair, they could be narrowed in the “C” modes). I only use maybe four film sims (does anyone use sepia?) and four or five aspect ratios—ironically the dial on the RF100 means I now use fewer, because I now set “C” to 65:24 and mostly just rock between that and the adjacent 5:4 (occasionally I’ll rock the other way and use 4:3).

I wasn't sure about the lever when I opened the box, but quickly fell in love with it.

Yes, it’s super useful. It adds back in the configurability that was once provided by the D-pad, without the clutter and accidental presses that it incurred.

My only beef with it is that the “hold” actions have an excessively long delay on them. Five seconds I think it is? One second would probably be enough, two would be plenty. Not sure why they made it so painfully long.

 

[BklynBill]

This camera is getting more interesting to me, especially if what you think is true about the lever. Still would like a front control dial, along with the rear one. But at least their being creative, rather than just stuffing a new sensor and IBIS in a X-E4 and calling it a day.

 

[Jeff Biscuits]

Still would like a front control dial, along with the rear one.

There certainly appears to be a front dial. No images of the rear yet.

 

[Swerky]

This camera is getting more interesting to me, especially if what you think is true about the lever. Still would like a front control dial, along with the rear one. But at least their being creative, rather than just stuffing a new sensor and IBIS in a X-E4 and calling it a day.

The front dial is there as we can see its outline in the image. The X-E4 has a front one. But wether the X-E5 will get a rear one, missing from the 4, remains to be seen.
Indeed it is a breath of fresh air from Fuji to be expanding on the X-E design. But here I ask myself wether there will be an X-Pro. Or will the eventual next X-Pro bring something new to the table apart from the usual stuff, like the X-Pro 3 did with its novel rear screen.

 

[BklynBill]

Sorry, my mistake. I meant to say I hope it has a rear dial, not front.

 

[Swerky]

Sorry, my mistake. I meant to say I hope it has a rear dial, not front.

No worries

 

[Truman Prevatt]

Interesting. I don’t think that’s going to be what the rumours about a film sim dial were pointing to. I strongly suspect it will behave (and be configurable) similarly to the one on the 100RF. (For what it’s worth, I do like it: I use mine mainly to toggle between EVF and LCD.)

One of my frustrations with the Fuji UI was the view mode button and the merry go round of having to cycle through it.

Yes—always hated the proliferation of useless view modes. Wouldn’t have been so bad if there was an equal number of button presses between the two modes I wanted to use, but it was always three and two, and I could never remember which direction was which.

I wish they would grasp that there are other settings where it‘s good to offer numerous options for different preferences, but where that range of options inevitably means it’s important for individual users to be able to narrow them down to only to the ones they use.

They’ve figured this out with view modes and “AF all” modes, which is great, but they’re going the other way with aspect ratios and film sims, because by putting them on marked dials there’s no way even a firmware change could narrow the choices (well, to be fair, they could be narrowed in the “C” modes). I only use maybe four film sims (does anyone use sepia?) and four or five aspect ratios—ironically the dial on the RF100 means I now use fewer, because I now set “C” to 65:24 and mostly just rock between that and the adjacent 5:4 (occasionally I’ll rock the other way and use 4:3).

I wasn't sure about the lever when I opened the box, but quickly fell in love with it.

Yes, it’s super useful. It adds back in the configurability that was once provided by the D-pad, without the clutter and accidental presses that it incurred.

My only beef with it is that the “hold” actions have an excessively long delay on them. Five seconds I think it is? One second would probably be enough, two would be plenty. Not sure why they made it so painfully long.

I was curious about your comment as 5 seconds is an eternity. So I put a stop watch on mine. My inward press and hold is for the level so I can see the green level line appear when activated. Mine takes two seconds. I think one would have been fine.

The one thing my Z8 does which I wish Fuji would adopt is when I pull out the screen, the display comes on. When I press the menu button the screen comes on. I wish Fuji would adopt such an action. However, limiting the rotation through a limited subset of the possible view modes is a step forward.

 

[Jeff Biscuits]

I was curious about your comment as 5 seconds is an eternity. So I put a stop watch on mine. My inward press and hold is for the level so I can see the green level line appear when activated. Mine takes two seconds. I think one would have been fine.

OK, you got me trying mine. Seems to be a bit over two seconds, with significant error bars, so it seems to agree with yours. I’m sure I saw five seconds written somewhere, and when I loaned one I certainly remember finding it really inconveniently long. Doesn’t seem so bad now.

The one thing my Z8 does which I wish Fuji would adopt is when I pull out the screen, the display comes on.

Yes! This is one of the things I really like about the X-Pro3 and X-T4: they both know when the screen is hidden and automatically shift to the viewfinder, which—while subtly different—is similar. As you say, there’s no reason they couldn’t do the reverse when extending the top table screens. I think the X-E4 has a magnet in it to detect the screen opening, which is what causes it to flip the view upside down when the screen is out and the EVF proximity sensor detects something (intended result: selfie/vlogging screen; actual result: virtually impossible to use as a waist level finder… a switch in the menu would have been nice)

 

[John Bean (UK)]

I was curious about your comment as 5 seconds is an eternity. So I put a stop watch on mine. My inward press and hold is for the level so I can see the green level line appear when activated. Mine takes two seconds. I think one would have been fine.

OK, you got me trying mine. Seems to be a bit over two seconds, with significant error bars, so it seems to agree with yours. I’m sure I saw five seconds written somewhere, and when I loaned one I certainly remember finding it really inconveniently long. Doesn’t seem so bad now.

The one thing my Z8 does which I wish Fuji would adopt is when I pull out the screen, the display comes on.

Yes! This is one of the things I really like about the X-Pro3 and X-T4: they both know when the screen is hidden and automatically shift to the viewfinder, which—while subtly different—is similar. As you say, there’s no reason they couldn’t do the reverse when extending the top table screens. I think the X-E4 has a magnet in it to detect the screen opening, which is what causes it to flip the view upside down when the screen is out and the EVF proximity sensor detects something (intended result: selfie/vlogging screen; actual result: virtually impossible to use as a waist level finder… a switch in the menu would have been nice)

Interesting. The X-T50 disables the eye sensor as soon as the LCD is tilted, so no problems with using it at waist level. I've used lots of cameras that don't do this and it can be very annoying.

The X-T50 may give hints as to what to expect from new cameras - or not. Fuji has a history of sometimes changing things just to be different.

 

[Jeff Biscuits]

The X-T50 may give hints as to what to expect from new cameras - or not. Fuji has a history of sometimes changing things just to be different.

Yes… let’s see what order they come up with for the buttons below the joystick this time. I’m fed up with having to re-learn that every time I pick up a different body.

 

[UsherFellig]

People are in meltdown mode about the filmsim dial over at FR, absolutely out of their minds. The item revealing there would be one drew nearly 400 comments, and a followup purporting to assure the filmsim dial would not take away any X-E# features drew nearly 500.

The sheer number and intensity of the reactions is mystifying. I thought there would be happiness about the arrival of this camera. I mean, the filmsim thing is dopey, but if features aren't being taken away, does it really matter?

 

[Jeff Biscuits]

Never read the comments on FR, you can almost smell the spittle pooling on people’s keyboards as they curse anything they don’t understand and beat out their messages of righteous indignation with their fists.

I mean, obviously that’s true of 95% of the internet, but still.

 

[RobRoy22]

Never read the comments on FR, you can almost smell the spittle pooling on people’s keyboards as they curse anything they don’t understand and beat out their messages of righteous indignation with their fists.

I mean, obviously that’s true of 95% of the internet, but still.

Human evolution in reverse?

 

[Swerky]

People are in meltdown mode about the filmsim dial over at FR, absolutely out of their minds. The item revealing there would be one drew nearly 400 comments, and a followup purporting to assure the filmsim dial would not take away any X-E# features drew nearly 500.

The sheer number and intensity of the reactions is mystifying. I thought there would be happiness about the arrival of this camera. I mean, the filmsim thing is dopey, but if features aren't being taken away, does it really matter?

I guess it’s part of leaks being…leaked little by little. Building up tension. Personally I would prefer to have a dedicated iso dial for example instead of the film sims that don’t fit all on the dial anyway. Or a metering dial like the one that was present on early X-T* cameras or a drive dial. But it is how it is.
Fuji are attracting the younger crowd with their mid range cameras, film sims being kinda unique to Fuji, but other manufacturers like Nikon and Olympus before have been working on different jpeg recipes and having a dedicated physical control point for those.

 

[Edward Greenberg]

As I am getting up there in age compactness is very important to me. But almost as important are very good af, image quality, keep down noise in low light. View features mean very little to me.Given these needs would I be happier with an XE-5 or an XT-5?