Z6iii new picture?

not looking forward to all those threads asking: "Can Nikon please remove the video features and give me a photo-only camera?"
I don't understand those types of people to be honest... If you don't need a function (like video) just don't use it. It's not harming your photogrpahy if it's there. Although it is probably possible for Nikon to implement an option in the menus called something like "Photo Mode" where it disables video and removes any menu items or screens that relate to video (this could be something you could turn on/off in the Camera setting [wrench] icon menu perhaps but so far they haven't done this).

There are way around this that they could implement though, but for people to ask for a photo-only camera would just increase the cost for everyone as Nikon would have to basically have two bodies with one lacking the video and all it would be would be video turned off in software....
I don’t mind features that I don’t use as ling as I don’t pay a substantial amount for them, or they compromise something I would want (and would want to pay for).

According to NR, Nikon might have struck a deal with Sony on exclusivity of this sensor, which is rumored to appear in the next Sony A7S model as well. They say this explains the rumored high price.

I’d rather have a slower 33MP sensor. So yeah, in this case it does seem like I’d be paying a premium for something I have little need for.
Yeah I don't either, it's not a huge deal and am actually glad they are included in case I wanted to shoot 8k video for example. As with most things, I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. Even without the extra video capabilities, I'd argue cameras like the Z8 are still worth their price based on their abilities for stills photography over other Nikon Z options (although $4k would be about my limit for such a camera).
 
not looking forward to all those threads asking: "Can Nikon please remove the video features and give me a photo-only camera?"
I don't understand those types of people to be honest... If you don't need a function (like video) just don't use it. It's not harming your photogrpahy if it's there. Although it is probably possible for Nikon to implement an option in the menus called something like "Photo Mode" where it disables video and removes any menu items or screens that relate to video (this could be something you could turn on/off in the Camera setting [wrench] icon menu perhaps but so far they haven't done this).

There are way around this that they could implement though, but for people to ask for a photo-only camera would just increase the cost for everyone as Nikon would have to basically have two bodies with one lacking the video and all it would be would be video turned off in software....
These people think their cameras would somehow both be cheaper and have better photo features if they didn't have the video features. Of course, this is not how camera development works though.
 
The price of 2700 pounds (accidentally leaked by Wex UK) can only be explained by such a high specification sensor
It's $2500 USD whatever that equates to in pounds (might be 2700 but I haven't checked).
1 US$ = 0.78 GBP, so $2500 = 1970.13

It is much more expensive in the UK

 
The price of 2700 pounds (accidentally leaked by Wex UK) can only be explained by such a high specification sensor
It's $2500 USD whatever that equates to in pounds (might be 2700 but I haven't checked).
1 US$ = 0.78 GBP, so $2500 = 1970.13

It is much more expensive in the UK

https://www.nikon.co.uk/en_GB/product/cameras/z6iii-VOA130AE
I don't understand why its so much more expensive in the UK
 
The price of 2700 pounds (accidentally leaked by Wex UK) can only be explained by such a high specification sensor
It's $2500 USD whatever that equates to in pounds (might be 2700 but I haven't checked).
1 US$ = 0.78 GBP, so $2500 = 1970.13

It is much more expensive in the UK

https://www.nikon.co.uk/en_GB/product/cameras/z6iii-VOA130AE
I don't understand why its so much more expensive in the UK
Doesn't the UK price include the 20% VAT?
 
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The price of 2700 pounds (accidentally leaked by Wex UK) can only be explained by such a high specification sensor
It's $2500 USD whatever that equates to in pounds (might be 2700 but I haven't checked).
1 US$ = 0.78 GBP, so $2500 = 1970.13

It is much more expensive in the UK

https://www.nikon.co.uk/en_GB/product/cameras/z6iii-VOA130AE
I don't understand why its so much more expensive in the UK
The only thing i can think of would be taxes perhaps (VAT maybe, unless that's already figured into the number given). I know in the US, tax is separate from the stated $2500 price (and can range from about 5% to 10% depending on where you live).
 
The price of 2700 pounds (accidentally leaked by Wex UK) can only be explained by such a high specification sensor
It's $2500 USD whatever that equates to in pounds (might be 2700 but I haven't checked).
1 US$ = 0.78 GBP, so $2500 = 1970.13

It is much more expensive in the UK

https://www.nikon.co.uk/en_GB/product/cameras/z6iii-VOA130AE
I don't understand why its so much more expensive in the UK
The British price by law has to include VAT at 20% for a consumer item, which makes it approx £2360 if it was priced the same as in the US… so it still costs more in the UK, but less of a difference.. of course if a professional purchase you can claim the VAT back if you are VAT registered.

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The price of 2700 pounds (accidentally leaked by Wex UK) can only be explained by such a high specification sensor
It's $2500 USD whatever that equates to in pounds (might be 2700 but I haven't checked).
1 US$ = 0.78 GBP, so $2500 = 1970.13

It is much more expensive in the UK

https://www.nikon.co.uk/en_GB/product/cameras/z6iii-VOA130AE
IIRC UK prices include VAT, US prices do not. That's 20-25% right there.
 
The price of 2700 pounds (accidentally leaked by Wex UK) can only be explained by such a high specification sensor
It's $2500 USD whatever that equates to in pounds (might be 2700 but I haven't checked).
1 US$ = 0.78 GBP, so $2500 = 1970.13

It is much more expensive in the UK

https://www.nikon.co.uk/en_GB/product/cameras/z6iii-VOA130AE
I don't understand why its so much more expensive in the UK
The British price by law has to include VAT at 20% for a consumer item, which makes it approx £2360 if it was priced the same as in the US… so it still costs more in the UK, but less of a difference.. of course if a professional purchase you can claim the VAT back if you are VAT registered.
That's still interestingly over a £300 difference between the two prices with the UK price seemingly going for £2699
 
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Someone on FM posted they heard the Z6 III has "I heard partial stacked sensor, whatever that is."

Assuming that comment is true and based on the leaked 4K/120P support, I'm guessing the Z6 III has a new sensor that can read out multiple rows in parallel but in a non-stacked sensor (ie, without the co-located stacked memory). This is what the Canon R5/R6 do, which achieves a full-sensor readout speed about 3-4x faster than the Z6/Z7. Here's a comparison of readout speeds between these Canon and Nikon bodies:

Canon R5/R6 vs Nikon Z6II/Z7II Full-Sensor Readouts
So it turns out that this rumor was correct.

Interesting Canon R5/R6 II already achieve similar performance?
 
Someone on FM posted they heard the Z6 III has "I heard partial stacked sensor, whatever that is."

Assuming that comment is true and based on the leaked 4K/120P support, I'm guessing the Z6 III has a new sensor that can read out multiple rows in parallel but in a non-stacked sensor (ie, without the co-located stacked memory). This is what the Canon R5/R6 do, which achieves a full-sensor readout speed about 3-4x faster than the Z6/Z7. Here's a comparison of readout speeds between these Canon and Nikon bodies:

Canon R5/R6 vs Nikon Z6II/Z7II Full-Sensor Readouts
So it turns out that this rumor was correct.

Interesting Canon R5/R6 II already achieve similar performance?
Yep, the R6 II has the same stills-mode readout speed as the Z6 III but without Nikon/Sony's "partial stacked sensor" marketing buzz words :)
 
Yep, the R6 II has the same stills-mode readout speed as the Z6 III but without Nikon/Sony's "partial stacked sensor" marketing buzz words :)
Is there a schematic or diagram that explains this partial stacked sensor better? I'm trying to make sense of it: it sounds like they added stuff to the top and bottom borders of the sensor to help it read out faster?

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Yep, the R6 II has the same stills-mode readout speed as the Z6 III but without Nikon/Sony's "partial stacked sensor" marketing buzz words :)
Is there a schematic or diagram that explains this partial stacked sensor better? I'm trying to make sense of it: it sounds like they added stuff to the top and bottom borders of the sensor to help it read out faster?
Someone on FM posted a Nikon Thailand graphic:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=7901333446555172

I should point out the R6 II's electronic shutter 1/68 readout speed is 12-bit, whereas I'm presuming it's 14-bit on the Z6 III, which means the Z6 III sensor tech is actually an improvement, so not just marketing buzz words that I joked about.
 
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Someone on FM posted a Nikon Thailand graphic:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=7901333446555172

I should point out the R6 II's electronic shutter 1/68 readout speed is 12-bit, whereas I'm presuming it's 14-bit on the Z6 III, which means the Z6 III sensor tech is actually an improvement, so not just marketing buzz words that I joked about.
Thanks. This still seems opaque to me. :( As far as I can tell, partially stacked means they don't have the second substrate behind the sensor that's approximately the size of the sensor that has processing logic proportional to the size of the sensor. Instead, it looks like they used some empty space above and below the sensor perhaps on the front side to hold some logic that helps them process the data coming off the sensor locally so they can do some things faster. Does that sound plausible?

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Someone on FM posted a Nikon Thailand graphic:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=7901333446555172

I should point out the R6 II's electronic shutter 1/68 readout speed is 12-bit, whereas I'm presuming it's 14-bit on the Z6 III, which means the Z6 III sensor tech is actually an improvement, so not just marketing buzz words that I joked about.
Thanks. This still seems opaque to me. :( As far as I can tell, partially stacked means they don't have the second substrate behind the sensor that's approximately the size of the sensor that has processing logic proportional to the size of the sensor. Instead, it looks like they used some empty space above and below the sensor perhaps on the front side to hold some logic that helps them process the data coming off the sensor locally so they can do some things faster. Does that sound plausible?
Yep, sounds about right to me.
 
Someone on FM posted a Nikon Thailand graphic:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=7901333446555172

I should point out the R6 II's electronic shutter 1/68 readout speed is 12-bit, whereas I'm presuming it's 14-bit on the Z6 III, which means the Z6 III sensor tech is actually an improvement, so not just marketing buzz words that I joked about.
Thanks. This still seems opaque to me. :( As far as I can tell, partially stacked means they don't have the second substrate behind the sensor that's approximately the size of the sensor that has processing logic proportional to the size of the sensor. Instead, it looks like they used some empty space above and below the sensor perhaps on the front side to hold some logic that helps them process the data coming off the sensor locally so they can do some things faster. Does that sound plausible?
Yep, sounds about right to me.
The sensor itself was used as the stacking foundation for smaller chips used to process the outputs from the array. In the Z8/9 there's a lot more and larger specialized chips - called chiplets - tiled underneath the sensor chip that connect to it through interior through-connections via pads on the circuit (back) side of the sensor chip and matching pads on the top (circuit) side of the underlying chiplets. As opposed to the usual peripheral ring of pads. Much more complex, but also much faster data speeds.
I don't like the descriptor "partially stacked"...it sounds like something wasn't completed in fabrication. "peripherally stacked" is slightly more accurate.
 
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