Epson p700 color issues

[VeniceG]

Hello,

My first post here after many years of reading.

I am having a very frustrating experience with my p700. I printed for many years on Epson 3880, p800, p7000/p9000 with basically no issues. Within a few test prints with minimal file tinkering I had prints I was very happy with. Usually just basic curve/contrast adjustments in photoshop. The same files amongst all the printers would print the same.

I bought a p700 six months ago and since day one I have had a hard time getting prints to match anywhere near my monitor. I have managed to get some prints I am happy with after 10+ tests, but I bet if I printed them on the older printers I would prefer them. Today in particular I am noticing the prints have a magenta cast, and lack saturation. I decided to print old files on the p700 and compare directly. The difference is significant. So now I have basically given up, wasting lots of ink and paper.

I have been using Moab Juniper Baryta Rag exclusively for a long time. I have tested Epson papers with the p700 and still have the same issues. I print through photoshop and use the appropriate profile, updated driver and firmware installed. I have tried printing through Lightroom. I run nozzle checks once a week when I am not using the printer and they are perfect.

Am I missing something? I am really close to selling this printer and looking at some older Epson printers.

Thank you

 

[ken5678]

Same files should print pretty close across all models of epson printers you mentioned. I wonder if it’s a bad ink cartridge or maybe the individual printer itself.

Recommend printing a standard test image (Keith coopers are often referenced here on for).

is it possible to go back to vendor you bought it from.
…. I’m assuming you bought it new, and using OEM inks

There are some software bugs out there, so wondering if you switched / upgraded operating systems/ versions or anything else that might be the cause no matter what printer you are using.

 

[VeniceG]

Will run some tests with Keith Cooper images tomorrow.

I bought the printer used from an illustrator that barely used it, bought new. Using OEM ink. I suppose I could replace some the low cartridges to be certain they are not the problem.

I went to my old shared studio today and used a p800, printed the files the exact same way (the only difference being the MOAB profile for the p700/800) on the p700 when I got home. The difference in prints is immediately clear, with the p800 print looking very close to screen. P700 print is magenta, especially in skin tones and also has more contrast.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4384390 - this thread is interesting, I already tried this method of allowing printer to manage colors and changing the gamma to 1.8, but not with this file. Will print it and see.

Printing from a new MBP running 14.1, printer firmware updated and driver updated from Epson.

In general I don't think that it should be this difficult.

 

[ken5678]

When using the P800, was that from the same MBP ?

lots of possibilities of what could be the issue, so being methodical, so might not want to start throwing money at it just yet.... (edit) and imho, first thing is to really figure out if it's something in the computer (software, setting, etc), or the printer itself.

VeniceG wrote:

Will run some tests with Keith Cooper images tomorrow.

I bought the printer used from an illustrator that barely used it, bought new. Using OEM ink. I suppose I could replace some the low cartridges to be certain they are not the problem.

I went to my old shared studio today and used a p800, printed the files the exact same way (the only difference being the MOAB profile for the p700/800) on the p700 when I got home. The difference in prints is immediately clear, with the p800 print looking very close to screen. P700 print is magenta, especially in skin tones and also has more contrast.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4384390 - this thread is interesting, I already tried this method of allowing printer to manage colors and changing the gamma to 1.8, but not with this file. Will print it and see.

Printing from a new MBP running 14.1, printer firmware updated and driver updated from Epson.

In general I don't think that it should be this difficult.

 

[UpAndPrinting]

Hello,

My first post here after many years of reading.

I am having a very frustrating experience with my p700. I printed for many years on Epson 3880, p800, p7000/p9000 with basically no issues. Within a few test prints with minimal file tinkering I had prints I was very happy with. Usually just basic curve/contrast adjustments in photoshop. The same files amongst all the printers would print the same.

I bought a p700 six months ago and since day one I have had a hard time getting prints to match anywhere near my monitor. I have managed to get some prints I am happy with after 10+ tests, but I bet if I printed them on the older printers I would prefer them. Today in particular I am noticing the prints have a magenta cast, and lack saturation. I decided to print old files on the p700 and compare directly. The difference is significant. So now I have basically given up, wasting lots of ink and paper.

I have been using Moab Juniper Baryta Rag exclusively for a long time. I have tested Epson papers with the p700 and still have the same issues. I print through photoshop and use the appropriate profile, updated driver and firmware installed. I have tried printing through Lightroom. I run nozzle checks once a week when I am not using the printer and they are perfect.

Am I missing something? I am really close to selling this printer and looking at some older Epson printers.

Thank you

You're not alone in this. We tested a P700 printer a year and a half ago and for as nice as it looked cosmetically, it didn't hold up to what our P600 and P800 printers were doing. And for as nice as it looked, it did seem to take away from functionality that I've known with more traditionally designed printers. That said, I'm happy to say I have a few older ones left in stock as backups if I ever really needed a replacement from my P800.

 

[wilberforce_1]

I went from 3880 to P900 (essentially same as p700) and had no difficulty or color issues or tinkering; the prints from P900 are very close to (slightly better than) prints from 3880, on a wide variety of papers.

So it seems there is a problem with your P700 or your setup, not with "the P700" as a class of printers.

 

[JasonSlocum]

Here are a few troubleshooting steps to consider:

1. Check Color Management Settings: Ensure that your color management settings in both Photoshop and your printer driver are configured correctly. Double-check that you're using the appropriate ICC profiles for your paper and printer combination.
2. Monitor Calibration: Confirm that your monitor is properly calibrated using a reliable calibration tool. Inaccurate monitor calibration can lead to discrepancies between what you see on your screen and the printed output.
3. Printer Calibration: Perform a printer calibration or color adjustment if available in the printer's settings. This process can help align the printer's output with your expectations.
4. Paper Compatibility: While you've been using Moab Juniper Baryta Rag for some time, consider testing different paper types to see if the issue persists across various media. It's possible that the paper's characteristics may interact differently with the P700 compared to your previous printers.
5. Contact Epson Support: If the issue persists despite troubleshooting, consider reaching out to Epson's customer support for further assistance. They may be able to provide specific guidance or recommendations tailored to your situation.
6. Consider Professional Calibration Services: If you're still experiencing difficulties, you might explore professional calibration services that specialize in fine-tuning printers for optimal color accuracy.

Ultimately, if you've exhausted troubleshooting options and the issue persists, selling the printer and exploring alternatives may be a viable solution. However, it's worth ensuring that all potential avenues for resolving the problem have been explored before making a decision.

 

[Euell]

I went from 3880 to P900 (essentially same as p700) and had no difficulty or color issues or tinkering; the prints from P900 are very close to (slightly better than) prints from 3880, on a wide variety of papers.

So it seems there is a problem with your P700 or your setup, not with "the P700" as a class of printers.

I too went from an Epson 3880 to the P900 and have had no problems. The P900 is more clog-free than was the 3880 and to me the prints are indistinguishable.