Canon "Retro" Camera: Would You Buy It?

Canon "Retro" Camera: Would You Buy It?


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retro cameras are retro. Leave them in the past.
Yes but we should all be ready for it. For when we kick the bucket and we go to the big gig in the sky, we do, you know, have a choice of what dept we can go to right? Many here will go to retro nirvana, where everything is as they remembered it, you know, the good ole days!!! LoL

Or not!!! :-O

John
 
I don't buy gimmicks. My choice is the R6 II or the R3 if they fix the nonsense of different tech for each card slot. The R3 II shouldn't be too far off. Waiting to see what Canon releases for this upgrade.
 
I don't buy gimmicks. My choice is the R6 II or the R3 if they fix the nonsense of different tech for each card slot. The R3 II shouldn't be too far off. Waiting to see what Canon releases for this upgrade.
Everybody has their different needs. I hope they NEVER stop putting the SD cards in ANY camera. I learned that 20 years ago when traveling with my first dslr in Colombia. Try to get a CF card in a 3rd world country? Not gonna happen, let alone a fancy fast card!

I was VERY disappointed when cameras stopped using AA batteries. Now you gotta plan every trip around where you can charge batteries, or bring a wheelbarrow full of them!

I hope Canon brings the AA battery option back in the R1!!!

John
 
I don't buy gimmicks. My choice is the R6 II or the R3 if they fix the nonsense of different tech for each card slot. The R3 II shouldn't be too far off. Waiting to see what Canon releases for this upgrade.
Everybody has their different needs. I hope they NEVER stop putting the SD cards in ANY camera. I learned that 20 years ago when traveling with my first dslr in Colombia. Try to get a CF card in a 3rd world country? Not gonna happen, let alone a fancy fast card!

I was VERY disappointed when cameras stopped using AA batteries. Now you gotta plan every trip around where you can charge batteries, or bring a wheelbarrow full of them!

I hope Canon brings the AA battery option back in the R1!!!

John
John, The problem with modern cameras cannot operate with AA batteries. If they did you need wheelbarrow full of AA batteries as well and the camera would take 10 of them at a time. Your third world shop will have nothing left as you would have depleated their stock.

Seng
 
I don't buy gimmicks. My choice is the R6 II or the R3 if they fix the nonsense of different tech for each card slot. The R3 II shouldn't be too far off. Waiting to see what Canon releases for this upgrade.
Everybody has their different needs. I hope they NEVER stop putting the SD cards in ANY camera. I learned that 20 years ago when traveling with my first dslr in Colombia. Try to get a CF card in a 3rd world country? Not gonna happen, let alone a fancy fast card!

I was VERY disappointed when cameras stopped using AA batteries. Now you gotta plan every trip around where you can charge batteries, or bring a wheelbarrow full of them!

I hope Canon brings the AA battery option back in the R1!!!

John
Good luck making the R1 operate with AA batteries! Or any modern camera.
As for SD cards, it is largely the case. Most cameras have either SD only or another format with SD. Nikon corrected that when they released the Z6 II and Z7 II.

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Canon "Retro" Camera: Would You Buy It?
Heck no. Just keep on giving me the ergo/controls of the R5! I'll be happy as a clam! :-D

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Sure, that's somewhat true. But the vast majority of the population have already told us that they don't fancy DSLR-style cameras. They've voted with their wallets by not buying them anymore.
Or they're simply happy with their phones and don't perceive a need for anything more.
Meanwhile the X100V from Fuji has been sold out for over a year.
Meanwhile, Canon holds 45% market share while Fuji has 4.7% .
Canon and the others have done well servicing the professional market. But when it comes to getting amateurs back into photography, they have not done so well.
I don't have sales numbers for the R50, R10, and R8, but those aren't cameras pros buy (except maybe the R8 as a third or fourth body). Real amateurs, as opposed to enthusiasts, don't seem too into dedicated cameras these days. Enthusiasts tend to want gear specialized for exactly what they are interested in, be it birds, other wildlife, landscapes, or whatnot.
 
I have a beautiful stainless steel Smith & Wesson revolver, rather than an ugly plastic bodied Glock, so I am open to retro. :-)

If I was to (gasp!) buy a Nikon, it would probably be a Z fc.

Canon should have something to compete in every product category.
 
Canon should have something to compete in every product category.
Product categories can be defined at an arbitrarily fine grain, and Canon has finite resources. They have to make decisions about what they're going to cover.
 
Canon should have something to compete in every product category.
Product categories can be defined at an arbitrarily fine grain, and Canon has finite resources. They have to make decisions about what they're going to cover.
It wouldn't take much R&D, just stick the innards of a R50 or R10 in a different body.
It's still a lot of design work, detailed design, tooling, re-jigging of production lines, manual writing, stock control etc. that would be better spent on an R5 II. I can already buy a Fuji if I wanted an APS-C camera aping a 1970s 35mm camera. Its lenses would look the part better too.
 
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On the other hand, Canon puts a high priority on market share, so they might not want to leave that niche untapped.
 
Canon should have something to compete in every product category.
Product categories can be defined at an arbitrarily fine grain, and Canon has finite resources. They have to make decisions about what they're going to cover.
It wouldn't take much R&D, just stick the innards of a R50 or R10 in a different body.
LoL, funny you should say that because that's exactly what Nikon did with the Df!

Nikon had that old crappy designed D600 that pumped more oil tan Jed Clampett's yard! When they had to scrap the whole camera because of all the design faults in the mirror mechanism they had an entire production rum of surplus parts left over. So Nikon VERY cleverly took all those 600 parts, made the old retro body for it and to give it legitimacy, they stuck in the leftover sensor/mirrors from the D3/4, can't remember which one? And as Nikon predicted all those old senior citizen Nikon Fann Boyss fell for it and snatched them right up!

BUT Nikon is in a very different position than Canon. Nikons have always been collectable, unlike Canons. So camera collectors or wanna-be collectors buy them up. Kinda like Ford and Chevy. Chevy's have always been more collectable than fords.

I have no idea what went into the new Nikon retro camera. just match up the sensor mp to a recent ML and that's likely the platform. I do remember seeing it had 299 focus points. NOBODY has such a low focus point count anymore. What Nikon ML FF had that?

If Canon put out a retro camera I would not even consider it! Though I will say that if they made the new R5ll retro, they'd sell a ton of them! And if it was the R1, I'd buy one!!! LoL

John
 
I have a beautiful stainless steel Smith & Wesson revolver, rather than an ugly plastic bodied Glock, so I am open to retro. :-)

If I was to (gasp!) buy a Nikon, it would probably be a Z fc.

Canon should have something to compete in every product category.
That stainless steel S&W is not retro, however. It's a modern version of revolver. Retro would be something like a Heritage Barkeep.
 
On the other hand, Canon puts a high priority on market share, so they might not want to leave that niche untapped.
As I said, "I can already buy a Fuji if I wanted an APS-C camera aping a 1970s 35mm camera. Its lenses would look the part better too". What is Fuji's market share if you leave out the (decidedly non-retro) Instax cameras?

Actually EOS M had a whole niche to itself (at the end there wasn't a current interchangeable lens camera in any format that was smaller than the M200). Evidently that niche wasn't big enough for Canon. A pity, as there's nothing at a reasonable price to properly replace my M cameras with when they die. I don't think the retro niche is big enough for Canon either.
 
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Canon touch screens rule. :) All those buttons and dials are not needed so much now.

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About five years ago Canon execs touted a "full lineup strategy", meaning something for everyone. I don't know if they still feel that way. I think a Canon retro camera would sell better than a comparable Fujifilm one, just because of "brand power".
 
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About five years ago Canon execs touted a "full lineup strategy", meaning something for everyone. I don't know if they still feel that way. I think a Canon retro camera would sell better than a comparable Fujifilm one, just because of "brand power".
It’s just like the cameras that are sold in various colors. It’s really about looks. I don’t think Canon had good luck with this sort of thing in the past so I’d not be surprised if they are hesitant now. I think the something for everyone was said more in a practical sense (they have all the price points covered).
 
I don't buy gimmicks. My choice is the R6 II or the R3 if they fix the nonsense of different tech for each card slot. The R3 II shouldn't be too far off. Waiting to see what Canon releases for this upgrade.
Everybody has their different needs. I hope they NEVER stop putting the SD cards in ANY camera. I learned that 20 years ago when traveling with my first dslr in Colombia. Try to get a CF card in a 3rd world country? Not gonna happen, let alone a fancy fast card!

I was VERY disappointed when cameras stopped using AA batteries. Now you gotta plan every trip around where you can charge batteries, or bring a wheelbarrow full of them!

I hope Canon brings the AA battery option back in the R1!!!

John
No thank you to DSLRs or MILC with AA batteries. It would make them much larger & heavier, and increase the size & weight being carried in extra batteries. I don't mind AA NiMH so much for flash, I'm generally good with 1 extra set of 4 batteries. But I recall the AA tray in the vertical grips for my DSLRs needed 6 AA batteries (I never used the tray for that reason). The power requirement for mirrorless is even more due to the EVF.
 
Canon touch screens rule. :) All those buttons and dials are not needed so much now.
Ever tried using a touch screen in situations where the screen itself would be distracting and possibly forbidden to be used? Button positions can be memorised and put into muscle memory, touch screen use not so...
 

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